Two of the pictures you posted are around the block from my work. They represent aobut a four block radius which is still considered a crime scene. The rest of the area around these blocks are bustling as usual. IF you walk on to the street of one of your cherrp picked pictures no one woul stop you, question you or arrest you. I know becuase I have to in order to get to my parking gargae.

Again, I'm not disputing your storires. I'm just asking you to do the same thing you are asking everyone else to do. Keep your mind open as well.You've now posted three items as facts that sound like facts if you aren't in Boston.

Nalod wrote:YOu figured it out. Black helicopters over your house yet?

Not afraid like you man, I love America and Americans!

playa2 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:playa im not going to dispute any of your theories but I will say that as a person that lives in the effected area you are expressing false information. As a residnet of one of these cities on "lockdown"I was free to go whree I watned when I wanted. AS were my friends, several of who lived two or three blocks from where he was caught.

Two of the pictures you posted are around the block from my work. They represent aobut a four block radius which is still considered a crime scene. The rest of the area around these blocks are bustling as usual. IF you walk on to the street of one of your cherrp picked pictures no one woul stop you, question you or arrest you. I know becuase I have to in order to get to my parking gargae.

Again, I'm not disputing your storires. I'm just asking you to do the same thing you are asking everyone else to do. Keep your mind open as well.You've now posted three items as facts that sound like facts if you aren't in Boston.

Bip I'm glad that you are safe man and all is well in your neck of the woods. Now if what you say is true why all the law enforcement personnel ??? Was it to send an dangerous image to the people watching on the news ?

What I showed you pictures of do you really think it took all that law enforcement for one 19 yr old scared Kid ? We've had known mask murders running around with weapons before and never had this type of pursuit by law enforcement.

That house where the alleged suspect was hiding was supposed to be "JUST" outside of the parameter according to LEA.

This is a form of martial law on trial IMHO, tell me, do you think this was taking place in Watertown ?

Did any of your friends chant USA USA when your rights are being violated like the clip above?

Would love to see them try that mess in Texas!

Did you stay home friday like the LEA requested or did you go to work.

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.- Ben Franklin

Bip Would love to hear your thoughts.

1.) as the owner of my own business I worked. Left early to go buy a new car in one of the towns that was on "lockdown". Dealership was open but I was the only customer. Came and went as I pleased. As did many others who chose to go out

2.) again I'm not here to dispute anything you say. Im open minded, it could all be true. it vould also all be baloney. Is your mind open enough to the possibility that you are wrong? Or is your mind only openin one direction

3.) military style atmosphere was crazy. Could have been a dry run just like you say. It could also have been a city that just saw two huge explosions that maimed hundreds. With a terrorist on the loose in the town and the police having an idea where he was. Wouldn't you send all available assets? If you were governor and you decided you only needed a handful of police and the kid set off another bomb, what happens at that point. Again, not disputing you, just raising the possibility of an alternative.

4.) we just had a fugitive running around California that brought out a pretty heavy response. Nothing like this. But he also didn't plant two high powered bombs that injured hundreds.if someone can do it once they can do it again.

5.) he's an innocent looking kid. He's only 19. Blah, blah, blah. I ran into quite a few innocent looking "alleged killers" in my old neighborhood. Several of them started well before the age of 19.

6.) I appreciate an alternate view, always. Just hold yourself to the same standard you are holding the media to. Don't just post the first conspiracy theory online without knowing whats real or not. Just like we shouldn't believe everything the media tells us(you are 100% correct here. We also shouldn't believe every story or photo the Internet brings us. I don't want any more coincidences posted online. I want someone to actually prove one of these theories correct before I believe the story. That's the same standard you and I hold the media to.

Common sense !

On cops, guys pull over and run in the woods. they don't have bombs strapped to them or potentially want to kill more people.

This is the young guy who was supposed to be shot or whatever and got out of the boat with no assistance from LEA and taken to hospital in serious condition..... from what fear ? Come on now , he looks fine.

The United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.

But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.

The report would also reveal that a fabricated, then foiled attack in Portland in 2010, even included a van and an inert bomb parked next to a real crowd of thousands during the city’s annual Christmas tree lighting ceremony:

When an Oregon college student, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, thought of using a car bomb to attack a festive Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving, with Mr. Mohamud in the passenger seat. To trigger the bomb the student punched a number into a cellphone and got no boom, only a bust.

Indeed, the only missing ingredient separating Portland from Boston, was the FBI’s decision of what to fill the 55-gallon drums with. (For more details on other FBI cases, see: FBI’s History of Handing “Terror Suspects” Live Explosives)

The NYT piece continues, describing how the FBI picks its targets:

Typically, the stings initially target suspects for pure speech — comments to an informer outside a mosque, angry postings on Web sites, e-mails with radicals overseas — then woo them into relationships with informers, who are often convicted felons working in exchange for leniency, or with F.B.I. agents posing as members of Al Qaeda or other groups.

The article also explains how some targets “seem ambivalent, incompetent and adrift, like hapless wannabes looking for a cause that the informer or undercover agent skillfully helps them find.” Disturbingly, the NYT reports what appears to be the coaxing of one target toward violence they would otherwise never have considered:

“He was searching for answers within his Islamic faith,” said his lawyer, Clinton W. Calhoun III, who has appealed his conviction. “And this informant, I think, twisted that search in a really pretty awful way, sort of misdirected Cromitie in his search and turned him towards violence.”

A year after the NYT article was written, the Boston Marathon would be attacked by two explosive devices, killing three and injuring many more. The suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev and brother Dzhokar Tsarnaev, would be announced by the FBI a day after a bizarre press conference cancellation and a security scare at the federal courthouse where a suspect was allegedly being brought.

An explanation for the FBI’s bizarre behavior may be owed to the fact that it now turns out that at least one of the suspects in the Boston bombing had caught the attention of Russian investigators in 2011 who then contacted the FBI to investigate the matter.

The FBI would indeed interview Tamerlan Tsarnaev, several family members, and conduct investigations into Tsarnaev’s background, phone conversations, and Internet activity. This was all finally disclosed on April 19, 2013 in an official statement that can be found on FBI.gov

playa2 wrote:

Anyone who ever watched a movie in the last decade should know that ANY video can be manufactured in cgi, let alone edited or tampered with. I don't have a point deeper than a well funded organization, such as FBI, CIA, DHS etc.. can show us absolutely anything they desire, or say confiscate every ones video and return or publish it modified.

Some of it is pretty good stuff, but this one is really lame.

Bottom line is if you think its a conspiracy in the first hour (like your boy Alex Jones does) then every you can't explain must be a conspiracy. Its all your looking for. All inconsistancies. Sandy hook was really a lame conspiracy.

How many years will it take for the "new world order" to take place? Seems by now they would have figured it out. Who are "they" and how do they profit and when?

Not one shread of legit media ever goes after this? No foreign journalist? Al Jazeera? If there is a conspiracy to shut them up, then why do the "alternative" press" get to do it? Whouldn't it be real easy to shut them down? Or is that part of the conspiracy too. We got "conspiracies for the Conspiracies?"

Nalod wrote:

playa2 wrote:

Anyone who ever watched a movie in the last decade should know that ANY video can be manufactured in cgi, let alone edited or tampered with. I don't have a point deeper than a well funded organization, such as FBI, CIA, DHS etc.. can show us absolutely anything they desire, or say confiscate every ones video and return or publish it modified.

Not one shread of legit media ever goes after this? No foreign journalist? Al Jazeera? If there is a conspiracy to shut them up, then why do the "alternative" press" get to do it? Whouldn't it be real easy to shut them down? Or is that part of the conspiracy too. We got "conspiracies for the Conspiracies?"

Don't you understand that if a "new world order" is the agenda, foreign countries must keep silent and not help slow down the process of it coming to fruition ?

Solace wrote:

Nalod wrote:

playa2 wrote:

Anyone who ever watched a movie in the last decade should know that ANY video can be manufactured in cgi, let alone edited or tampered with. I don't have a point deeper than a well funded organization, such as FBI, CIA, DHS etc.. can show us absolutely anything they desire, or say confiscate every ones video and return or publish it modified.

Some of it is pretty good stuff, but this one is really lame.

Bottom line is if you think its a conspiracy in the first hour (like your boy Alex Jones does) then every you can't explain must be a conspiracy. Its all your looking for. All inconsistancies. Sandy hook was really a lame conspiracy.

How many years will it take for the "new world order" to take place? Seems by now they would have figured it out. Who are "they" and how do they profit and when?

Not one shread of legit media ever goes after this? No foreign journalist? Al Jazeera? If there is a conspiracy to shut them up, then why do the "alternative" press" get to do it? Whouldn't it be real easy to shut them down? Or is that part of the conspiracy too. We got "conspiracies for the Conspiracies?"

I agree with you, Nalod. Actually, people started posting this stuff on Facebook. The main reasoning why they say it's a cover up: to distract us from CISPA. What I don't get is that these things makes absolutely no sense and you would have to get a significant collaboration of people to go along with basically agreeing to attack their own country and to arrest/kill the wrong men. But despite that, I did some research, and most of the conspiracy theories were already debunked on snopes.

There was something about the backpacks not matching, which I thought was vaguely interesting.

The media, the government, the International bankers, Hollywood, and Academia are all part of the same incestuous complex. The media is part of the conspiracy, so why would you expect them to tell you the truth?

The corruption doesn't come from the outside-in. It comes from the top-down. If the ownership of a major media organization decides that a certain story is to be spiked, or if another story is to be hyped, then the rest of the organization follows. If a low level reporter decides to defy his bosses, he will lose his job and be blacklisted.

Remember Helen Thomas?

After 50 years as a White House Correspondent, she was dumped like a hot potato for publicly criticizing Israel. The same fearful top-down control works in government and academia as well.