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4/16/2013  1:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/17/2013  12:43 PM
Recent Quote again from him regarding efficiency....

"I hate that I really value efficiency. Because I look around the league sometimes and I see a guy shooting 41, 42 percent from the field and I'm like, 'Wow, they're just hoisting up shots and they don't care.' I guess that's that freedom, but I don't have that mindset. I want to be as efficient as possible."


Let's see since it's a very recent comment he has to talking about....


Westbrook
Kobe
Melo
Curry
Monta
J.R. Smith
Jennings


possibly Harden


I'm thinking of guys who have the freedom to shoot whenever they want and at times aren't efficient.

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4/16/2013  1:20 PM
I don't think it's shots fired - I think it's his own insecurity about not being as talked about anymore as most of the people you mentioned. Wade isn't the top dog anymore. He should take a lesson from Bosh about how to act whene no one cares about you anymore. The Heat stars LeBron James and Wade signed up. IMHO Wade should STFU #littlecrybaby
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4/16/2013  1:25 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I don't think it's shots fired - I think it's his own insecurity about not being as talked about anymore as most of the people you mentioned. Wade isn't the top dog anymore. He should take a lesson from Bosh about how to act whene no one cares about you anymore. The Heat stars LeBron James and Wade signed up. IMHO Wade should STFU #littlecrybaby

Exactly. Can't really talk shyt when you ride bytch in your own car.

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4/16/2013  2:48 PM
you ever notice how often he will walk past while Lebron is being interviewed. Guess a cameo in LB's interview is better than nothing
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/16/2013  2:50 PM
Can't wait to hear what Wade thinks LaLa tastes like.

You'll please notice LeQ isn't beeyatching at Melo. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

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4/16/2013  3:04 PM
Wade you cant shoot. So of course you are going to take less shots.
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4/16/2013  3:21 PM
He's right. There's no point in taking a low percentage shot with a lot of time left on the clock.
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4/16/2013  4:24 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I don't think it's shots fired - I think it's his own insecurity about not being as talked about anymore as most of the people you mentioned. Wade isn't the top dog anymore. He should take a lesson from Bosh about how to act whene no one cares about you anymore. The Heat stars LeBron James and Wade signed up. IMHO Wade should STFU #littlecrybaby

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner.....

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4/16/2013  4:31 PM
3G4G wrote:Recent Quote again from him regarding efficiency....

"I hate that I really value efficiency. Because I look around the league sometimes and I see a guy shooting 41, 42 percent from the field and I'm like, 'Wow, they're just hoisting up shots and they don't care.' I guess that's that freedom, but I don't have that mindset. I want to be as efficient as possible."


Let's see since it's a very recent comment he has to talking about....


Westbrook
Kobe
Melo
Curry
Monta
J.R. Smith


possibly Harden


I'm thinking of guys who have the freedom to shoot whenever they want and at times aren't efficient.

How many of those guys listed shoot 41 to 42 percent? Monta and JR. If he is talking about recent play take JR off the list. Maybe he's talking about Paul George?

Wade is a good player and should think about efficiency as long as it is not to the detriment of the team. Some players take efficiency to the extreme and will not attempt last second shots and will hold the ball until the horn is sounded and the whistle is blown to protect there precious.

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4/16/2013  4:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/16/2013  4:54 PM
Why did Wade even say this? 3G is there a link to the source?
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4/16/2013  5:29 PM
TeamBall wrote:Why did Wade even say this? 3G is there a link to the source?

Yikes I had to google for more info as I got the quote from another site and they most certainly are referring to Melo....SO SHOTS DEFINITELY FIRED!!!!

As they were questioned in context about going after scoring titles. I guess you could add Durant but he clearly isn't shooting 41-42 percent and doesn't shoot enough at times in games....


Here's the full article below. What I don't like about these D-Bags as they clearly are, it's cool they call themselves trendsetting the efficiency game but prior to this time they had their fill of putting up tons of shots in games trying to score at will. Don't get me wrong I think their games are more naturally suited for all-around play and they do more and have done more than just scoring but to come off like....Scoring is No Longer the In Thing, It's what's your eFG% or what's your TS% wreaks of douchebaggery. There is truth in the statements they made but it comes across as if since they don't think it's important anymore because they've done it, then it's not important. Gosh like there aren't anymore likable athletes anymore, really there almost aren't. I can't stand these dudes. Oh and I hate Melo too.


Trading scoring titles for NBA titles


April, 15, 2013

By Tom Haberstroh
ESPN.com

Former scoring champs Dwyane Wade and LeBron James aren't sweating racking up points per game.


MIAMI -- Will efficiency ever hold more prestige within the game than points per game?

It's a fair question these days, with Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Durant duking it out for the NBA’s scoring title while two stars sit in the front row with a watchful eye. LeBron James and Dwyane Wade have each worn the scoring title belt before (in 2007-08 and 2008-09, respectively) and yes, they’re paying close attention.

But that doesn’t mean they necessarily want to get into that ring.

“Nope,” James said when asked over the weekend if he feels jealous of Anthony and Durant. “It’s fun to see how close they are and I’m looking forward to see how it shakes out. But me being a part of it? Nah, not really. That’s not who I am.”

And Wade?

“It didn't mean nothing,” Wade said of his scoring title. “It was cool to do it once, to say, ‘I led the league in scoring.’ But after I was done with the media, it was over with. Nobody talked about it anymore. The playoffs lived on.”

Been there, done that.

This was James and Wade’s sacrifice when they joined forces in the summer of 2010 along with Chris Bosh, who averaged 24 points per game the season before, in 2009-10. Gone were the days when they could fire up as many shots as pleased with little repercussion. If they wanted a title, forget about the scoring one.

Back in December, when James was asked about the prospects of winning the scoring title, he shrugged his shoulders and said, “I could do it if I wanted to.” Earlier that day, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra claimed James could realistically score 37 points a game if he played on another team and wasn’t such a skilled and willing passer.

But for James and Wade, efficiency has replaced points per game on their priority list. Less shot-taking, more shot-making.

James has converted an impressive 56.5 percent of his shots from the field. Wade, who is shooting a career-high 51.9 percent from the floor on fewer field goal attempts than Klay Thompson, bears a love-hate relationship with his shooting percentages.

"I hate that I really value efficiency," Wade said. "Because I look around the league sometimes and I see a guy shooting 41, 42 percent from the field and I'm like, 'Wow, they're just hoisting up shots and they don't care.' I guess that's that freedom, but I don't have that mindset. I want to be as efficient as possible."

Wade has a point. Of the 13 players that shoot more field goal attempts per game than Wade, seven of them shoot lower than 45 percent from the floor -- including Anthony, who leads the league in scoring and field goal attempts with 22.2 per game. It would feel odd if Anthony would be labeled the “scoring champion” this season despite having a far less efficient campaign than James, Wade or Durant, who’s in the exclusive 50-40-90 shooting percentage club.

Ultimately, James and Wade hold each other back from vying for the scoring title. Both in their primes, James and Wade have their lowest usage rates since their first few seasons in the league. James’ average of 17.8 field goal attempts per game is also the lowest of his career. Wade averaged 22 field goal attempts the season he won the scoring title -- the same as Anthony this season – but Wade has shot that many in just four of his 68 games this season.

Don’t believe that Wade could still contend for the scoring title if given more “freedom” as he puts it? Consider this: With James off the court, Wade has scored 27.0 points per 36 minutes this season, according to NBA.com/stats. That would be the highest scoring rate in the league outside of Anthony. And that’s while sharing the ball with Bosh, too.

But with James on the floor, Wade’s per-36-minute scoring average plummets to just 20.8 points. Wade still shoots above 50 percent (50.4 percent to be exact) without James on the floor, which in other words means Wade isn’t abusing his freedom to shoot more. He remains one of the best scorers in the game.

James, meanwhile, has scored 29.8 points per 36 minutes this season with Wade on the bench. James, too, has learned to adjust to his star-studded surroundings, which now include fellow future Hall of Famer Ray Allen. And James is holding a greater appreciation for efficiency and the advanced stats that shed light on the subtle cost-benefit analysis of shooting.

“I’m taking every shot very seriously,” James said after Sunday’s win over Chicago. “I’m getting to my spots, not allowing the defense to determine what I wanted to do. I want to be as close to perfect as possible.”

As a result, James leads the NBA in field goals made (765) despite shooting 135 fewer field goal attempts than Anthony and 63 fewer field goal attempts than Durant. That’s before we mention that the league-leader in field goal attempts, Kobe Bryant, has 241 more shots to his name this season than James.

Until Sunday, James hadn’t known he’s likely to make more field goals than any other player this season.

"League leader in field goals made? I don’t even shoot that much,” James said before cracking a smile. “That’s pretty cool. I like that stat."

No scoring title for James this season, but when he was asked what stat he’s most proud of, James replied with just six words.

“How many team wins we got?”

Efficient response.


http://fans.heat.nba.com/community/index.php?/topic/18171-trading-scoring-titles-for-nba-titles-insider-piece-about-superduo-dwade-and-bron/

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4/16/2013  6:01 PM
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TeamBall wrote:Why did Wade even say this? 3G is there a link to the source?

Yikes I had to google for more info as I got the quote from another site and they most certainly are referring to Melo....SO SHOTS DEFINITELY FIRED!!!!

As they were questioned in context about going after scoring titles. I guess you could add Durant but he clearly isn't shooting 41-42 percent and doesn't shoot enough at times in games....


Here's the full article below. What I don't like about these D-Bags as they clearly are, it's cool they call themselves trendsetting the efficiency game but prior to this time they had their fill of putting up tons of shots in games trying to score at will. Don't get me wrong I think their games are more naturally suited for all-around play and they do more and have done more than just scoring but to come off like....Scoring is No Longer the In Thing, It's what's your eFG% or what's your TS% wreaks of douchebaggery. There is truth in the statements they made but it comes across as if since they don't think it's important anymore because they've done it, then it's not important. Gosh like there aren't anymore likable athletes anymore, really there almost aren't. I can't stand these dudes. Oh and I hate Melo too.


Trading scoring titles for NBA titles


April, 15, 2013

By Tom Haberstroh
ESPN.com

Former scoring champs Dwyane Wade and LeBron James aren't sweating racking up points per game.


MIAMI -- Will efficiency ever hold more prestige within the game than points per game?

It's a fair question these days, with Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Durant duking it out for the NBA’s scoring title while two stars sit in the front row with a watchful eye. LeBron James and Dwyane Wade have each worn the scoring title belt before (in 2007-08 and 2008-09, respectively) and yes, they’re paying close attention.

But that doesn’t mean they necessarily want to get into that ring.

“Nope,” James said when asked over the weekend if he feels jealous of Anthony and Durant. “It’s fun to see how close they are and I’m looking forward to see how it shakes out. But me being a part of it? Nah, not really. That’s not who I am.”

And Wade?

“It didn't mean nothing,” Wade said of his scoring title. “It was cool to do it once, to say, ‘I led the league in scoring.’ But after I was done with the media, it was over with. Nobody talked about it anymore. The playoffs lived on.”

Been there, done that.

This was James and Wade’s sacrifice when they joined forces in the summer of 2010 along with Chris Bosh, who averaged 24 points per game the season before, in 2009-10. Gone were the days when they could fire up as many shots as pleased with little repercussion. If they wanted a title, forget about the scoring one.

Back in December, when James was asked about the prospects of winning the scoring title, he shrugged his shoulders and said, “I could do it if I wanted to.” Earlier that day, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra claimed James could realistically score 37 points a game if he played on another team and wasn’t such a skilled and willing passer.

But for James and Wade, efficiency has replaced points per game on their priority list. Less shot-taking, more shot-making.

James has converted an impressive 56.5 percent of his shots from the field. Wade, who is shooting a career-high 51.9 percent from the floor on fewer field goal attempts than Klay Thompson, bears a love-hate relationship with his shooting percentages.

"I hate that I really value efficiency," Wade said. "Because I look around the league sometimes and I see a guy shooting 41, 42 percent from the field and I'm like, 'Wow, they're just hoisting up shots and they don't care.' I guess that's that freedom, but I don't have that mindset. I want to be as efficient as possible."

Wade has a point. Of the 13 players that shoot more field goal attempts per game than Wade, seven of them shoot lower than 45 percent from the floor -- including Anthony, who leads the league in scoring and field goal attempts with 22.2 per game. It would feel odd if Anthony would be labeled the “scoring champion” this season despite having a far less efficient campaign than James, Wade or Durant, who’s in the exclusive 50-40-90 shooting percentage club.

Ultimately, James and Wade hold each other back from vying for the scoring title. Both in their primes, James and Wade have their lowest usage rates since their first few seasons in the league. James’ average of 17.8 field goal attempts per game is also the lowest of his career. Wade averaged 22 field goal attempts the season he won the scoring title -- the same as Anthony this season – but Wade has shot that many in just four of his 68 games this season.

Don’t believe that Wade could still contend for the scoring title if given more “freedom” as he puts it? Consider this: With James off the court, Wade has scored 27.0 points per 36 minutes this season, according to NBA.com/stats. That would be the highest scoring rate in the league outside of Anthony. And that’s while sharing the ball with Bosh, too.

But with James on the floor, Wade’s per-36-minute scoring average plummets to just 20.8 points. Wade still shoots above 50 percent (50.4 percent to be exact) without James on the floor, which in other words means Wade isn’t abusing his freedom to shoot more. He remains one of the best scorers in the game.

James, meanwhile, has scored 29.8 points per 36 minutes this season with Wade on the bench. James, too, has learned to adjust to his star-studded surroundings, which now include fellow future Hall of Famer Ray Allen. And James is holding a greater appreciation for efficiency and the advanced stats that shed light on the subtle cost-benefit analysis of shooting.

“I’m taking every shot very seriously,” James said after Sunday’s win over Chicago. “I’m getting to my spots, not allowing the defense to determine what I wanted to do. I want to be as close to perfect as possible.”

As a result, James leads the NBA in field goals made (765) despite shooting 135 fewer field goal attempts than Anthony and 63 fewer field goal attempts than Durant. That’s before we mention that the league-leader in field goal attempts, Kobe Bryant, has 241 more shots to his name this season than James.

Until Sunday, James hadn’t known he’s likely to make more field goals than any other player this season.

"League leader in field goals made? I don’t even shoot that much,” James said before cracking a smile. “That’s pretty cool. I like that stat."

No scoring title for James this season, but when he was asked what stat he’s most proud of, James replied with just six words.

“How many team wins we got?”

Efficient response.


http://fans.heat.nba.com/community/index.php?/topic/18171-trading-scoring-titles-for-nba-titles-insider-piece-about-superduo-dwade-and-bron/

yea, he and lebron are funny dudes, and while there is a lot of truth in what he is saying, he does come off sounding like the typical douchebag.. go figure..

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4/16/2013  6:37 PM
The three franchise players came together in Miami to win championships. They couldn't do it on there own so they sacrificed money and their share of the limelight to win championships. So yeah, they don't care about PPG after winning it once. Now they just want to win championshps.
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4/16/2013  6:41 PM
They sacrificed their PPG even before winning the rings. Whether you have rings or not, there's no excuse for a skillful, talented NBA athlete to be shooting in the low 40s (or to have a low TS%).
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4/16/2013  7:38 PM
Silverfuel wrote:The three franchise players came together in Miami to win championships. They couldn't do it on there own so they sacrificed money and their share of the limelight to win championships. So yeah, they don't care about PPG after winning it once. Now they just want to win championshps.

Well Wade won a chip on his own if you count the 2006 chip as legit. I don't know if what they did would be deemed a sacrifice. It's much easier to keep a high level of efficiency when you aren't the singular focal point. I mean how many players have looked good during their career playing with Lebron and even Wade? Put them together then it's only natural to assume their numbers should look better from an efficiency standpoint. They've been players who have had very good levels of efficiency but stop trying to set trip between scoring titles and scoring efficiency.

THESE GUYS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN COMPLETE CLOWNERY AND YOU CAN TAKE "I DON'T WANT ANYMORE SCORING TITLES ON MY RESUME" TO THE BANK!!!!

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4/16/2013  8:13 PM
Efficiency is very important all you have to do is look at Melo when he is efficient the team performs better. I have been calling for Melo to shoot at a 50% clip. That is good basketball that is winning basketball. Makes your shot count and have meaning.
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4/16/2013  8:21 PM
No one wins on a chip on their own. Wade has Shaq. Top 5 center of all time
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4/16/2013  8:29 PM
gunsnewing wrote:No one wins on a chip on their own. Wade has Shaq. Top 5 center of all time

Yes he had Shaq but it wasn't close to a Prime Shaq. I think he averaged like 13/10 for the Finals and missed several games during the season.

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3G4G wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No one wins on a chip on their own. Wade has Shaq. Top 5 center of all time

Yes he had Shaq but it wasn't close to a Prime Shaq. I think he averaged like 13/10 for the Finals and missed several games during the season.

but he is stilll Sjhaq and drew a ton of attention letting Wade operate. What did shaq average that year? 20 & 10?

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4/16/2013  8:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
3G4G wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No one wins on a chip on their own. Wade has Shaq. Top 5 center of all time

Yes he had Shaq but it wasn't close to a Prime Shaq. I think he averaged like 13/10 for the Finals and missed several games during the season.

but he is stilll Sjhaq and drew a ton of attention letting Wade operate. What did shaq average that year? 20 & 10?

They missed the Finals the previous season with Shaq..... it was obvious Shaq was declining and Wade was like the best 2 guard in the game ascending.

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