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Why I Do Not Trust This Team Not Even As Far As I Will Throw Them
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IronWillGiroud
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4/10/2013  1:21 PM
It is the same with people,

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

this team goes from hot balls streak, then the death of the world, then back on top of the golden ball,

they do not understand the value of the middle ground, they are unable to work in a balanced state,

and in the playoffs, in the quest for the championship, it's the works you create from your balance that translate to the big prize,

without a middle, this team will face a difficult challenge and they will fall to an extreme; keep in mind that the bottom of the barrel is more realistic than to catch the fire balls again.

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4/10/2013  1:26 PM
You, like most fans, are just protecting yourself from the pain of possibly losing in the playoffs. I hear you, but now is a time to be excited.

As for ebbs and flows, every team goes through them on their way to a title...unless you were the 72 win Bulls. In each of the last 2 season on their way to the Finals, the Heat showed signs of being wildly inconsistent.

Not saying that I'm totally sold that we're going all the way, but we've got 51 wins with 5 to play. We've won our division. We will have home court. These are things to be happy about for the next week or so. The only goal is a title, but that doesn't mean we can't reflect back on the last 12 years and be happy with where we were then and where we are now.

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4/10/2013  1:26 PM
I dont trust this streak either. They are shooting lights out and that cannot continue. But is better than any team we have had for the last decade. You cannot get excited by that? If championship is the only thing you can enjoy, you must have hated the Ewing years.
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IronWillGiroud
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4/10/2013  1:31 PM
I am as excited as everyone in the kingdom,

and this thread would not exist if we were experiencing regular ebbs and flows, as any teams experiences,

the nature of our moons and tides, this is the question, because they are so extreme,

think of an out of control car on the highway, he will maybe go into the shoulder a little, then he will straighten out and move quickly in a lane, then he will maybe go to another lane and eventually hit the divider, then everyone is injured

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4/10/2013  1:31 PM
who cares? They are playing great ball. Melo is playing the best ball of his career. Knicks are back to sharing the ball, crashing the boards and playing D (most of the time).

I dont trust them either.. we cant stop guards so we could lose any series if a wing gets hot, but we can beat any team in the league right now as well.

Before the season started I figured on 50 wins and wait and see come playoffs. So lets wait and see. Im so jaded from the last decade that I dont really care. If the Knicks lose in the first round oh well, more of the same. As a fan Im waiting to be won over by this team. We have seen stretches of great play before. Lets see it when it gets remembered. In the playoffs. Hopefully our boys rally and make a great run.

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4/10/2013  1:32 PM
I am still not excited about what is going on, but they have peeked my interest again....a little.

Still not watching full games and just follow via UK and stats.

I hope things will change in the playoffs for me.

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4/10/2013  1:38 PM
Its been a tough 13 years however this is the best team we have had since 2000 so its good to have a 50 win team again. I hope that this team can stay hot for 2 more months. I truly believe that if we can get past the heat injury free then we will win a title
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4/10/2013  1:39 PM
Trust

IronWillGiroud wrote:It is the same with people,

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

this team goes from hot balls streak, then the death of the world, then back on top of the golden ball,

they do not understand the value of the middle ground, they are unable to work in a balanced state,

and in the playoffs, in the quest for the championship, it's the works you create from your balance that translate to the big prize,

without a middle, this team will face a difficult challenge and they will fall to an extreme; keep in mind that the bottom of the barrel is more realistic than to catch the fire balls again.

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IronWillGiroud - Why even bother putting your self through the trauma of any less than a championship season?

There are many other ways to be entertained that are much more predictable. Trusting a team to win a championship, or win every game, smack of entitlement. There are no guarantees. Carmelo could catch a finger on his shooting hand while closing his car door. All you can do is take one day at a time.

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

Does that mean that winning 51 games and the 13 game streak is gold for fools?

Cool. Sign me up.

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4/10/2013  1:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2013  1:46 PM
Dese Guys Don't Do Nuttin The Easy Way

IronWillGiroud wrote:
and this thread would not exist if we were experiencing regular ebbs and flows, as any teams experiences,

the nature of our moons and tides, this is the question, because they are so extreme,

think of an out of control car on the highway, he will maybe go into the shoulder a little, then he will straighten out and move quickly in a lane, then he will maybe go to another lane and eventually hit the divider, then everyone is injured

IronWill - you must have been watching cartoons for the last three decades. These are the NEW YORK KNICKS. The never do the expected. That is the reason we love them so. Regular ebbs and flows? What the hell is that?

Irregular ebbs and flows not good enough?

We started out hot, go hit with multiple injuries, had limited continuity, hit a .500 stretch, toughed it out and got hot at the end. We are not out of control because we have steady leadership that carried us through tough stretches where another team might falter and backslide. We have poised veterans who understand the season is a marathon and know how to finish strong.

Why is that a problem?

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4/10/2013  1:48 PM
They're easier to throw now since Eddy Curry and Jerome James aren't on the team.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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4/10/2013  1:50 PM
Fools Rush In

NYKBocker wrote:I am still not excited about what is going on, but they have peeked my interest again....a little.

Still not watching full games and just follow via UK and stats.

I hope things will change in the playoffs for me.

Please continue not watching the games. That includes the playoffs.

We need all the positive karma we can get.

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4/10/2013  1:52 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:It is the same with people,

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

this team goes from hot balls streak, then the death of the world, then back on top of the golden ball,

they do not understand the value of the middle ground, they are unable to work in a balanced state,

and in the playoffs, in the quest for the championship, it's the works you create from your balance that translate to the big prize,

without a middle, this team will face a difficult challenge and they will fall to an extreme; keep in mind that the bottom of the barrel is more realistic than to catch the fire balls again.

Whats the risk here? They might let you down?

Insert an EMOTIONAL TAMPON and enjoy the ride.

If they fall apart and Denver advances then attack the homers, do the "phuch Dolan" thing, call out "I demand a rebuild" and wait for the summer league heroes to get jacked up on.

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4/10/2013  1:53 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I am still not excited about what is going on, but they have peeked my interest again....a little.

Still not watching full games and just follow via UK and stats.

I hope things will change in the playoffs for me.

Hope so. You have missed the best season in a decade and a half. A lot of great stuff from a very resilient bunch.
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4/10/2013  1:54 PM
Dont trust the Knicks but trust Denver or Houston.
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4/10/2013  1:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2013  2:06 PM
I Cannot Bear To Watch

CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I am still not excited about what is going on, but they have peeked my interest again....a little.

Still not watching full games and just follow via UK and stats.

I hope things will change in the playoffs for me.

Hope so. You have missed the best season in a decade and a half. A lot of great stuff from a very resilient bunch.

What we have here is a crybaby problem. Yeah I said it. If you cannot "man the f#ck up" enough to watch a game on a television monitor without having a menopausal episode, how can you expect any individual team member, that you are supposedly rooting for, to "man up" and play their hearts our for you by "leaving it all" on the floor?

sheesh

One of the great things about New Orleans Saints football fans is that they wore their emotions on their sleeves (and their heads) for decades. Over 40 years of miserable football and they cheered loud and proud - and celebrated, no matter what. The place is crazy like that. No entitlement. Just a joy for living. When the Saints finally won the the Lombardi, all hell broke loose and it was a party for the ages. Those fans who stayed with them were as emotionally invested because the Saints were all the had. They owned that victory and had every right to second line anytime they wanted, even in church.

How sweet it was.

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4/10/2013  2:14 PM
This team is playing very good ball--hard to defend. The only scary deal is the middle. My hope is that Tyson can be like he was against OKC and Kenyon can give the other 18 minutes--we only need 2 bigs
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4/10/2013  2:20 PM
when they cool off they will be relying on home court and a 17th ranked defense to pull them through. that may work against the celtics but in the second round...
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/10/2013  2:20 PM
Im not buying into this streak either, couple yrs ago I watched san an win 17 straight going into the playoffs and got bounce in the first rnd..

the one thing I can say that gives us a lot of credibility is the fact that we have 2 scorers that can create at will, we have the talent to play anyway you want..

Were winning games cause we are playing so unselfish. Every opposing coach says the same thing, we move the ball so well and sustain our spacing no matter what. All we need is for our 4 bigs to get healthy and a title shouldnt be that hard..

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4/10/2013  2:28 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:It is the same with people,

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

this team goes from hot balls streak, then the death of the world, then back on top of the golden ball,

they do not understand the value of the middle ground, they are unable to work in a balanced state,

and in the playoffs, in the quest for the championship, it's the works you create from your balance that translate to the big prize,

without a middle, this team will face a difficult challenge and they will fall to an extreme; keep in mind that the bottom of the barrel is more realistic than to catch the fire balls again.

This team was hot, then worked to adjust by incorporating Amare, then after he was lost again, got hot again. What happened when Amare returned? The ball movement and hot shooting died. This was no longer that same successful system. It had to change for the sake of fitting Amare into the fold. He tried, and did his part to fit, but you could see the whole style to this team change. What is the Knicks record this year when they are without Amare? That is the real team, the guard oriented, space oriented team that has been successful.

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4/10/2013  2:32 PM
Knixkik wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:It is the same with people,

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

this team goes from hot balls streak, then the death of the world, then back on top of the golden ball,

they do not understand the value of the middle ground, they are unable to work in a balanced state,

and in the playoffs, in the quest for the championship, it's the works you create from your balance that translate to the big prize,

without a middle, this team will face a difficult challenge and they will fall to an extreme; keep in mind that the bottom of the barrel is more realistic than to catch the fire balls again.

This team was hot, then worked to adjust by incorporating Amare, then after he was lost again, got hot again. What happened when Amare returned? The ball movement and hot shooting died. This was no longer that same successful system. It had to change for the sake of fitting Amare into the fold. He tried, and did his part to fit, but you could see the whole style to this team change. What is the Knicks record this year when they are without Amare? That is the real team, the guard oriented, space oriented team that has been successful.

it's ironic: we traded for carmelo anthony and he ends up being an "upgrade" at the power forward position over stoudemire.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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