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playa2
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4/3/2013  11:33 AM
We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think

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4/3/2013  11:51 AM
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think


if I were the Heat playing the Knicks I would lock down every guy but Melo. Let Melo shoot it 30 times a game and force him to tons of ISO. He will get his points and the Knicks will win a game, maybe even two but he's a volume guy and shoots 41% for his career in the playoffs. Your not beating the Heat if thats your big gun.
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4/3/2013  11:54 AM
JR Smith is the key of the Knicks chances vs Miami, not Melo ISO.
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4/3/2013  11:58 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:JR Smith is the key of the Knicks chances vs Miami, not Melo ISO.

They were able to use size on JR last night to shut him down. Now after scouting reports are out... JR is going to have to mix it up.

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4/3/2013  11:59 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:JR Smith is the key of the Knicks chances vs Miami, not Melo ISO.

They were able to use size on JR last night to shut him down. Now after scouting reports are out... JR is going to have to mix it up.

It's going to be Wade on JR, not Rashard Lewis or James Jones.

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4/3/2013  12:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/3/2013  12:22 PM
YOU CAN BEAT THE HEAT WITH MELO AS THE BIG GUN IN A SERIES, as long as you mix up your other weapons and remember to use the biggest gun exclusively only when necessary.
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4/3/2013  12:12 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:JR Smith is the key of the Knicks chances vs Miami, not Melo ISO.

They were able to use size on JR last night to shut him down. Now after scouting reports are out... JR is going to have to mix it up.

He mixed it up on his late 3 pointer, but he could have easily done that the whole entire game because Miller was laying off of him all night.

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4/3/2013  12:35 PM
Tyson is also a big key IMO. Ever since becoming a Knick Tyson has had struggles with Miami. We need him to be healthy and efficient. Now that we have Martin as well we could be a real nightmare to the heat
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4/3/2013  2:13 PM
Isn't this basically how Detroit stomped the Lakers into the ground in '04? Letting Shaq do whatever he wanted, locking up Kobe and daring the other guys to beat them?
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4/3/2013  2:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/3/2013  2:16 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Tyson is also a big key IMO. Ever since becoming a Knick Tyson has had struggles with Miami. We need him to be healthy and efficient. Now that we have Martin as well we could be a real nightmare to the heat

Not just miami but chicago as well. Bascially any good playoff team. But he will get you 20rebs vs Orlando!

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4/3/2013  2:25 PM
playa2 wrote:YOU CAN BEAT THE HEAT WITH MELO AS THE BIG GUN IN A SERIES, as long as you mix up your other weapons and remember to use the biggest gun exclusively only when necessary.

"as long as YOU mix it up" WTF does that mean? it's the same old story: IT"S UP TO MELO TO MIX IT UP AND GET OTHERS INVOLVED, and he has shown he can't do it to any real effect.

this is his fatal flaw but there are legions of fans that will claim that his teammates didn't step up.

i call advance BS on that one.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/3/2013  2:56 PM
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think


I aint sure

I feel dwade, lbj & Bosh Respects the Knickerbockers MUCH More
than rest of nba teams & this is dangerous. Heat always D' up & I
agree most of NYK role guys gotta be most involved in a series much
moreso than Melo going off for 50pts wont win series that was.

MJs BULLs only Jordan respected NY teams is why Chicago always got
by NY in Jordan era of titles.

Knicks even if healthy downfall will be 100% Woodson concept that to
beat Miami is 3pt & regular jumpers being knocked down at high rates
as primary attack, next is defense & next is going to basket to draw
fouls for FThrows

NY cannot beat Heat unless their sole #1 attack is defending & rebounding
two of Newyorks weak points

I'd love to be wrong but Miami will invite NY to shoot 3s if NY is hot
HEAT makes adjustments & what Woodson gonna do?

Woody loves 3pt as NY identity first
and that is a poison tonic for failure in playoffs. Woodson on ESPN show
slot has told ESPN miami won title as leading 3pt shot team in 2011/2012 &
Mike believes NY can hang in that area with Heat shooters

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4/3/2013  3:09 PM
The worst thing Spoelstra could have done was let his stars watch Melo destroy the heat almost single handedly.

Lebron was already heard asking Melo to respect him while he was shooting free throws like he was intimidated by him, when Melo dissed him during the game.

Miami has no answer for the knicks when the Knicks play as a team.

Even the guys on TNT say the knicks are a dangerous veteran team come playoff time when they move the ball.


MJ Bulls won because you can't defend and win against the best player and the refs even when hand checking was allowed. The momentum calls were crucial in those series in the 90's.

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4/3/2013  3:34 PM
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Sinister plot the first symtom of a "conspiracy"

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

The most obvious symptom is when theorists try to put random acts into some predicatable order. Kind of like what playa is doing.

But at least your trying!

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4/3/2013  4:04 PM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Sinister plot the first symtom of a "conspiracy"

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

The most obvious symptom is when theorists try to put random acts into some predicatable order. Kind of like what playa is doing.

But at least your trying!

Nalod you might just watch the game, but I know the game so I speak as such.

It's called coaching strategy in the association, didn't Larry Brown text you about the game ?

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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4/3/2013  4:12 PM
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Sinister plot the first symtom of a "conspiracy"

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

The most obvious symptom is when theorists try to put random acts into some predicatable order. Kind of like what playa is doing.

But at least your trying!

Nalod you might just watch the game, but I know the game so I speak as such.

It's called coaching strategy in the association, didn't Larry Brown text you about the game ?

“Someone who believes in a significant number of conspiracy theories would naturally begin to see authorities as fundamentally deceptive, and new conspiracy theories would seem more plausible in light of that belief.” Moreover, “conspiracy advocates' distrust of official narratives may be so strong that many alternative theories are simultaneously endorsed in spite of any contradictions between them.”

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4/3/2013  4:34 PM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Sinister plot the first symtom of a "conspiracy"

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

The most obvious symptom is when theorists try to put random acts into some predicatable order. Kind of like what playa is doing.

But at least your trying!

Nalod you might just watch the game, but I know the game so I speak as such.

It's called coaching strategy in the association, didn't Larry Brown text you about the game ?

“Someone who believes in a significant number of conspiracy theories would naturally begin to see authorities as fundamentally deceptive, and new conspiracy theories would seem more plausible in light of that belief.” Moreover, “conspiracy advocates' distrust of official narratives may be so strong that many alternative theories are simultaneously endorsed in spite of any contradictions between them.”

Not to mention "provision of doctored, home-made viral phone vids to establish the validity of said conspiracy theories." In conclusion, "One might completely disregard the use of basic logical theorems, such as Ockham's razor, which would forbid the pointless multiplication of explanations to any given conclusion, when a simple explanation will suffice."

1. Miami is lulling us into a false sense of security by losing during a meaningless regular season which they cared so little about they didn't bother losing for two months.
2. We could be saving Cambyman and surprise playoff appearances by both KT and Sheed. Way too much tunnel action possibilities.
3. Prigs wants you to keep thinking he's old and slow and can't handle the NBA.
4. Ray Allen comes off the bench and scores less than 20 points by design.
5. Mike Miller is everyone's most underrated NBA star.
6. Lebron's figuring out someway to work Honey Nut Cheerios into his pre-game ritual.
7. Chris Bosh is afraid of no one.
8. Dwayne Wade is perfectly happy being a second bananna.
9. Erik Spoelestra is really a closet genius.
10. playa will provide videos in another thread to show how all these issues are connected by big oil, Dick Cheney and Homeland Security. No one will comment, but he will get 15,000 views.

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4/3/2013  4:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/3/2013  5:16 PM
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think


if I were the Heat playing the Knicks I would lock down every guy but Melo. Let Melo shoot it 30 times a game and force him to tons of ISO. He will get his points and the Knicks will win a game, maybe even two but he's a volume guy and shoots 41% for his career in the playoffs. Your not beating the Heat if thats your big gun.

My point exactly and why I was counting on Amare. We have somewhat of a scoring threat inside and out with kmart but with tyson out there we will see a lot of melo one on 5 and then same with JR. Kmart at least keepsnthe defense honest with his ability to knock down that mid range jumper

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4/3/2013  4:55 PM
Its not a sinister plot, its the scouting report on the Knicks. Take away the PNR, smoother all the shooters, force Melo to have to beat you on his own. Melo was able to do it this game since he was on fire, but he won't be able to do it on a night in and night out basis.
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4/3/2013  5:32 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:We won last nights with Melo going for Fifty, we've won against the heat before when he didn't even play in the game.

The strategy by the Heat was to give the knicks a false sense of security in relying on Melo to win games against them.

Miami becomes predictable when Wade and Lebron play at crunch time, but with out them they knocked off the Spurs with ball movement and Bosh knocking down a 3 pointer.

That tells me the best shot of the knicks beating the Heat in a 7 games series is for The knicks role players to be involved in the entire game along WITH Melo to make the games easier for us to win. 2 GAMES WE BLEW THEM OUT and the last one was 12

Last night would have been a blow out if the knicks role players were involved offensively early on like Miami's were. Melo only scored 2 points in the last 6:42 of the game, they were hoping other players would freeze up or take bad shots as the pressure and intensity of the game increased.

Wooodson can't play into the Miami trap in the playoffs, because their players will remain well rested watching Melo go off for 3 1/2 quarters and jump on the opportunity and wait for our role players to make an error like JR did in the previous game against Miami in NY when Lebron stole the lazy cross court pass to seal the game.

Melo's mere presence puts fear in the heat, but they want him to develop in his head that he alone has to beat the heat if things get tight during a playoff game.

They want Melo to get his, but want to limit the confidence of our other players.

Lebron is a lil timid against Melo for some reason, and Shump is already in Wades head too defensively.

What do you think


if I were the Heat playing the Knicks I would lock down every guy but Melo. Let Melo shoot it 30 times a game and force him to tons of ISO. He will get his points and the Knicks will win a game, maybe even two but he's a volume guy and shoots 41% for his career in the playoffs. Your not beating the Heat if thats your big gun.

My point exactly and why I was counting on Amare. We have somewhat of a scoring threat inside and out with kmart but with tyson out there we will see a lot of melo one on 5 and then same with JR. Kmart at least keepsnthe defense honest with his ability to knock down that mid range jumper


Exactly. Knicks can win with Melo as their primary option but we need JR and a big to score to stop the Heat from double and triple teaming Melo.
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