B. Resign Kenyon Martin for 2/ 5mm years as a C/PF Resign Copeland to 3 year 3mm$ try to trade Novak and see if we can get Camby and Kidd to retire for the $$

C. Draft a PG and spend some money trying to get a second pick for a BPA for any position. We are older and we need to take an approach to the end of the bench and our team to try and get younger not only for next year but the next core of a team players for the future-- fill the bench and spots with some younger who are salary restricted for 3 years. Also look to be opportunistic with players who are not drafted by taking a very serious approach to summer league--guys like Branden Davies Doug Andersen Elias Harris etc.... who have a chance to be nBA players who might not get drafted.

D. Serious decision on JR Smith---somehow he would have to dedicate more energy to being a smarter player--stay out of conflict off the court and overall efficiency. I dont think anyone has this answer yet. We really could use him--but he has to conform more to being the best he can be.

Someone to guard LeBron James or Kevin Durant.

Everything else is just window dressing.

Bulledat

misterearl wrote:Biggest need?

Someone to guard LeBron James or Kevin Durant.

Everything else is just window dressing.

Bulledat

James Johnson and Stephen Jackson are my under the radar players that could be looking at the vet minimum type deals
MWP could be looking at the amnesty this summer as well, with the Laker's payroll
I don't think we have any legit shot at getting Earl Clark not sure about Jamison....

BRIGGS wrote:A. Shooting Guard---My hope is we can frontload the smaller MLE to acquire Martell Webster and Jermaine Oneal to the smaller LLE

B. Resign Kenyon Martin for 2/ 5mm years as a C/PF Resign Copeland to 3 year 3mm$ try to trade Novak and see if we can get Camby and Kidd to retire for the $$

C. Draft a PG and spend some money trying to get a second pick for a BPA for any position. We are older and we need to take an approach to the end of the bench and our team to try and get younger not only for next year but the next core of a team players for the future-- fill the bench and spots with some younger who are salary restricted for 3 years. Also look to be opportunistic with players who are not drafted by taking a very serious approach to summer league--guys like Branden Davies Doug Andersen Elias Harris etc.... who have a chance to be nBA players who might not get drafted.

D. Serious decision on JR Smith---somehow he would have to dedicate more energy to being a smarter player--stay out of conflict off the court and overall efficiency. I dont think anyone has this answer yet. We really could use him--but he has to conform more to being the best he can be.

When it comes to our team, it probably would do us all some good to brush up on the Cap when discussing improvements(although that's not what you did here) before making fairy tale posting(such as trying to talk players on their last deals to retiring). We're all guilty of it at times.... including myself but in particular someone such as yourself who creates a myriad of threads on how to improve the team....

Through the Draft

Via Trade

Via Free Agency

You have to keep in mind always we are a Tax Paying team therefore the CBA greatly affects what we can and cannot do. Much of which you suggest(often) we literally can't do.

I'll try to educate later but anyone can feel free to step in and post such informative information and/or fact check once I do. I will make it a point to be as thorough and detailed as possible.

Start Here....http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm.....I will return

B. Resign Kenyon Martin for 2/ 5mm years (YES I AGREE!)
- Resign Copeland to 3 year 3mm$ (I dont think hes that good, let him go)
- try to trade Novak and see if we can get Camby and Kidd to retire for the $$ (neither of these will happen unfortunately)

C. Draft a PG and spend some money trying to get a second pick for a BPA for any position. We are older and we need to take an approach to the end of the bench and our team to try and get younger not only for next year but the next core of a team players for the future (AGREED)

- fill the bench and spots with some younger who are salary restricted for 3 years. Also look to be opportunistic with players who are not drafted by taking a very serious approach to summer league--guys like Branden Davies Doug Andersen Elias Harris etc.... who have a chance to be nBA players who might not get drafted. (AGREED)

D. Serious decision on JR Smith--i cant stand JR and in an ideal world id let him walk. But were gonna need him. We have his bird rights so what does that mean/imply?

Look for a younger Vet big. Maybe Jason Maxiell from Detroit. Will Bynum is also expiring there. Jerome Jordan and Josh Harrelson are available for NY again as is Mozgov. I would prefer any of those bigs before O'Neal.

Knicks will need to get creative in dealing Stoudemire.

BRIGGS wrote:

3G4G wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:A. Shooting Guard---My hope is we can frontload the smaller MLE to acquire Martell Webster and Jermaine Oneal to the smaller LLE

B. Resign Kenyon Martin for 2/ 5mm years as a C/PF Resign Copeland to 3 year 3mm$ try to trade Novak and see if we can get Camby and Kidd to retire for the $$

C. Draft a PG and spend some money trying to get a second pick for a BPA for any position. We are older and we need to take an approach to the end of the bench and our team to try and get younger not only for next year but the next core of a team players for the future-- fill the bench and spots with some younger who are salary restricted for 3 years. Also look to be opportunistic with players who are not drafted by taking a very serious approach to summer league--guys like Branden Davies Doug Andersen Elias Harris etc.... who have a chance to be nBA players who might not get drafted.

D. Serious decision on JR Smith---somehow he would have to dedicate more energy to being a smarter player--stay out of conflict off the court and overall efficiency. I dont think anyone has this answer yet. We really could use him--but he has to conform more to being the best he can be.

When it comes to our team, it probably would do us all some good to brush up on the Cap when discussing improvements(although that's not what you did here) before making fairy tale posting(such as trying to talk players on their last deals to retiring). We're all guilty of it at times.... including myself but in particular someone such as yourself who creates a myriad of threads on how to improve the team....

Through the Draft

Via Trade

Via Free Agency

You have to keep in mind always we are a Tax Paying team therefore the CBA greatly affects what we can and cannot do. Much of which you suggest(often) we literally can't do.

I'll try to educate later but anyone can feel free to step in and post such informative information and/or fact check once I do. I will make it a point to be as thorough and detailed as possible.

Start Here....http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm.....I will return

These are all smallish deals--and I know we have the small MLE for 3+mm. We get to spend 3mm$ on a transaction once a year. We can sign our own players to minimal contracts.

Doesn't matter you have to follow the rules and you aren't with making some of these suggestions. You are correct we can use the Tax Payer Exception every year but other things we can't do and certain things are simply unrealistic. You also have to keep in mind when you make moves as you're suggesting.... how does it affect the present and future financially?

TAXPAYER MID-LEVEL EXCEPTION -- This exception is available only when a team is above the "apron" (i.e., with a team salary $4 million or more above the tax line). This determination is made after the exception is used, so a team below the apron must use this exception rather than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception if doing so takes them above the apron. This exception cannot be used if the team has already used the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level or the Room Mid-Level exception. Starting in 2013-14, it cannot be used if the team has received a player that season in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 89).

This exception allows a team to sign any free agent to a contract with a starting salary up to the following amounts3:

Season First-year salary
2011-12 $3.000 million
2012-13 $3.090 million(Jason Kidd is currently being paid this exception)
2013-14 $3.183 million(This would be your fixated lust for Martell Webster slot or see bold/italic below)
2014-15 $3.278 million
2015-16 $3.376 million
2016-17 $3.477 million
2017-18 $3.581 million
2018-19 $3.688 million
2019-20 $3.799 million
2020-21 $3.913 million

This exception may be split and given to multiple players. It may be used for contracts up to three years in length, with raises up to 4.5% of the salary in the first year of the contract. Signing a player to a multi-year contract does not affect a team's ability to use this exception every year -- for example, a team can use this exception to sign a player to a three-year contract, and use it again the following year to sign another player. Also see question number 26 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

If the player is a restricted free agent with one or two years of service and receives an offer sheet from a new team, the player's prior team may use the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception to match the offer sheet, but only if the offer is within the constraints of the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question numbers 43 and 44).

If a team uses its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception but does not exceed the constraints of the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (e.g., in 2011-12 they use the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception to sign a player for $3 million or less) and the team later exceeds the apron, then the team is considered to have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception rather than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception.

A different team salary definition is used for determining whether a team is above or below the apron. See question number 14 for details. In addition, this exception begins to pro-rate downward daily starting on January 10 each season (see question numbers 26 and 28), and expires on the last day of the team's regular season.

If we give Martell all of the TPMLE then Kenyon can't be signed to the deal you suggested and why would we want to offer him that anyway? K-Mart would be classified as a Veteran Non-Bird for us, so he's eligible for 120% of previous season salary or greater 120% of Minimum * 20%. He's a 10+ yr vet therefore his first yr starting salary for next year would be...

Players have both minimum and maximum salaries, and both are based on how long the player has been in the league. The minimum salaries scale upward each season starting in 2013-14. Here are the minimum salaries:

0yr $490,180
1yr $788,872
2yr $884,293
3yr $916,099
4yr $947,907
5yr $1,027,424
6yr $1,106,941
7yr $1,186,459
8yr $1,265,977
9yr $1,272,279
10yr+ $1,399,507

(K-Mart's 1st yr starting salary * 20% = $1.679,408)Contract Max of 4yrs with 4.5% raises can't be split across players. All you had to do is look at what we're currently paying Rasheed and project the following yrs figures.

Kidd already said he wants to play another season, so get that pipe dream out of your head of talking him into retirement. Camby said he was shocked we did a S&T paying him that much money once again get that out of your head he ain't retiring. The only thing we can hope is that their bodies hurt so bad and are so brittle they can't physically move anymore.

Jermaine O'Neal's deal would be similar to what Sheed got paid this season.... just a slight increase for next season. It'll be $1,399,507. Here's the deal, it can't be front loaded in any way because it contains no bonuses. Jermaine can only be signed to a maximum 2yr deal.

MINIMUM PLAYER SALARY EXCEPTION -- Teams can offer players minimum salary contracts even if they are over the cap. Contracts can be up to two years in length. For two-year contracts, the second season salary is the minimum salary for that season. The contract may not contain a bonus of any kind. This exception can also be used to acquire minimum salary players via trade. There is no limit to the number of players that can be signed or acquired using this exception.

Ask yourself why would Martell accept a front loaded deal of that small amount and why would you increase our Cap any more than necessary by trying to front load to land him, making the Tax Situation worse? I know you mentioned moving Novak and left Smith an undecided situation but until those 2 guys are both handled you can't make such rash irresponsible decisions. Although you've made threads in the past stating how great Earl can be, saying he's a $35-50mil player...(he's not)

We also have our 2013 pick say it's in the lower 20s...at least a $1mil cap hit *20%

We're at $74mil in committed salary without Earl signed next year

3G4G wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

3G4G wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:A. Shooting Guard---My hope is we can frontload the smaller MLE to acquire Martell Webster and Jermaine Oneal to the smaller LLE

B. Resign Kenyon Martin for 2/ 5mm years as a C/PF Resign Copeland to 3 year 3mm$ try to trade Novak and see if we can get Camby and Kidd to retire for the $$

C. Draft a PG and spend some money trying to get a second pick for a BPA for any position. We are older and we need to take an approach to the end of the bench and our team to try and get younger not only for next year but the next core of a team players for the future-- fill the bench and spots with some younger who are salary restricted for 3 years. Also look to be opportunistic with players who are not drafted by taking a very serious approach to summer league--guys like Branden Davies Doug Andersen Elias Harris etc.... who have a chance to be nBA players who might not get drafted.

D. Serious decision on JR Smith---somehow he would have to dedicate more energy to being a smarter player--stay out of conflict off the court and overall efficiency. I dont think anyone has this answer yet. We really could use him--but he has to conform more to being the best he can be.

When it comes to our team, it probably would do us all some good to brush up on the Cap when discussing improvements(although that's not what you did here) before making fairy tale posting(such as trying to talk players on their last deals to retiring). We're all guilty of it at times.... including myself but in particular someone such as yourself who creates a myriad of threads on how to improve the team....

Through the Draft

Via Trade

Via Free Agency

You have to keep in mind always we are a Tax Paying team therefore the CBA greatly affects what we can and cannot do. Much of which you suggest(often) we literally can't do.

I'll try to educate later but anyone can feel free to step in and post such informative information and/or fact check once I do. I will make it a point to be as thorough and detailed as possible.

Start Here....http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm.....I will return

These are all smallish deals--and I know we have the small MLE for 3+mm. We get to spend 3mm$ on a transaction once a year. We can sign our own players to minimal contracts.

Doesn't matter you have to follow the rules and you aren't with making some of these suggestions. You are correct we can use the Tax Payer Exception every year but other things we can't do and certain things are simply unrealistic. You also have to keep in mind when you make moves as you're suggesting.... how does it affect the present and future financially?

TAXPAYER MID-LEVEL EXCEPTION -- This exception is available only when a team is above the "apron" (i.e., with a team salary $4 million or more above the tax line). This determination is made after the exception is used, so a team below the apron must use this exception rather than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception if doing so takes them above the apron. This exception cannot be used if the team has already used the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level or the Room Mid-Level exception. Starting in 2013-14, it cannot be used if the team has received a player that season in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 89).

This exception allows a team to sign any free agent to a contract with a starting salary up to the following amounts3:

Season First-year salary
2011-12 $3.000 million
2012-13 $3.090 million(Jason Kidd is currently being paid this exception)
2013-14 $3.183 million(This would be your fixated lust for Martell Webster slot or see bold/italic below)
2014-15 $3.278 million
2015-16 $3.376 million
2016-17 $3.477 million
2017-18 $3.581 million
2018-19 $3.688 million
2019-20 $3.799 million
2020-21 $3.913 million

This exception may be split and given to multiple players. It may be used for contracts up to three years in length, with raises up to 4.5% of the salary in the first year of the contract. Signing a player to a multi-year contract does not affect a team's ability to use this exception every year -- for example, a team can use this exception to sign a player to a three-year contract, and use it again the following year to sign another player. Also see question number 26 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

If the player is a restricted free agent with one or two years of service and receives an offer sheet from a new team, the player's prior team may use the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception to match the offer sheet, but only if the offer is within the constraints of the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question numbers 43 and 44).

If a team uses its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception but does not exceed the constraints of the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (e.g., in 2011-12 they use the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception to sign a player for $3 million or less) and the team later exceeds the apron, then the team is considered to have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception rather than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception.

A different team salary definition is used for determining whether a team is above or below the apron. See question number 14 for details. In addition, this exception begins to pro-rate downward daily starting on January 10 each season (see question numbers 26 and 28), and expires on the last day of the team's regular season.

If we give Martell all of the TPMLE then Kenyon can't be signed to the deal you suggested and why would we want to offer him that anyway? K-Mart would be classified as a Veteran Non-Bird for us, so he's eligible for 120% of previous season salary or greater 120% of Minimum * 20%. He's a 10+ yr vet therefore his first yr starting salary for next year would be...

Players have both minimum and maximum salaries, and both are based on how long the player has been in the league. The minimum salaries scale upward each season starting in 2013-14. Here are the minimum salaries:

0yr $490,180
1yr $788,872
2yr $884,293
3yr $916,099
4yr $947,907
5yr $1,027,424
6yr $1,106,941
7yr $1,186,459
8yr $1,265,977
9yr $1,272,279
10yr+ $1,399,507

(K-Mart's 1st yr starting salary * 20% = $1.679,408)Contract Max of 4yrs with 4.5% raises can't be split across players. All you had to do is look at what we're currently paying Rasheed and project the following yrs figures.

Kidd already said he wants to play another season, so get that pipe dream out of your head of talking him into retirement. Camby said he was shocked we did a S&T paying him that much money once again get that out of your head he ain't retiring. The only thing we can hope is that their bodies hurt so bad and are so brittle they can't physically move anymore.

Jermaine O'Neal's deal would be similar to what Sheed got paid this season.... just a slight increase for next season. It'll be $1,399,507. Here's the deal, it can't be front loaded in any way because it contains no bonuses. Jermaine can only be signed to a maximum 2yr deal.

MINIMUM PLAYER SALARY EXCEPTION -- Teams can offer players minimum salary contracts even if they are over the cap. Contracts can be up to two years in length. For two-year contracts, the second season salary is the minimum salary for that season. The contract may not contain a bonus of any kind. This exception can also be used to acquire minimum salary players via trade. There is no limit to the number of players that can be signed or acquired using this exception.

Ask yourself why would Martell accept a front loaded deal of that small amount and why would you increase our Cap any more than necessary by trying to front load to land him, making the Tax Situation worse? I know you mentioned moving Novak and left Smith an undecided situation but until those 2 guys are both handled you can't make such rash irresponsible decisions. Although you've made threads in the past stating how great Earl can be saying he's a $35-50mil players...(he's not)

We alos have our 2013 pick say it's in the lower 20s...at least a $1mil cap hit *20%

We're at $74mil in committed salary without Earl signed next year

I would offer Martell the frontloaded mLE as it puts Washington into the tax and they wont pay it. I dont know if he can command more than that--that is why I zeroed in on him--a realistic option at starting 2G. Contracts fro Kenyon and Copeland will be small but Id like to tie them both of for two years if possible--maybe Copeland for 3. I would have to assume JR is going to get his here or somewhere else. Hes either going ton get 5mm from us or more elsewhere no matter Jekyll and Hyde--especially if he finishes strong. I believe we can spend 3mm on a transaction and in a *weak* draft* so to speak that 3mm might be able to do that for us. This is not even taking into consideration the possibility that either Camby or Kidd--maybe both might retire--possibly freeing up 7mm+