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Jahii Carson 5-10.5 5-11 version of Derrick Rose freshmen As state
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BRIGGS
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3/17/2013  11:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/18/2013  12:38 AM
I saw him twice this year while looking at another guy. After watching him this weekend--I really thought he looked like Derrick Rose albeit 5-11 or so. He plays way over the rim--he is lightning quick as in what we saw with Ty Lawson but with Derrrick Rose explosion.. He is great at getting into the lane and finding seams to the basket--this is what I noticed about him. He simply took a dribble by his defender and was at the hoops with a small seam time and time again. This is just a freshmen although he is an older freshmen(20) but with the superior speed and athletsicm WITH skill that not many have. His jumper will continue to need work as its below NBA standards but that can be worked on. You cant teach size but you cant stop speed and explosion. I still have Nate Wolters as my number 1 PG--but more and more I like this guy as my number 2. He avg 18.5 points 3.5 reb 5.1 assists 47% as a freshmen. This is not a Nate Robinson size player--although I think the league has figured out Nate is still pretty good at 5-7. At 5-10.5 while hes not good size--hes certainly no midget.
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3/18/2013  12:11 AM
Interesting video, but 5'10"... can't do it. I think size is so important in the NBA; I wouldn't draft an undersized player at any position unless they were a can't miss superstar.
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3/18/2013  12:18 AM
Solace wrote:Interesting video, but 5'10"... can't do it. I think size is so important in the NBA; I wouldn't draft an undersized player at any position unless they were a can't miss superstar.

In many cases I agree with that. Thats why Ty Lawson went 18. But this is a special athlete. When I watche d him--he really looked like a Dwayne Wade or a Derrick Rose--despite being 5-10 or so--thats how fast and big he plays.Its hard trying to see so many guys play 1-2 times and in this case I was trying to look at their C and he caught my eye--this kid is special youll hear his name. He s a talent.

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3/18/2013  12:44 AM
guy is closer to 5'8" than 5'11"

he is a great athlete, but closer to n8 than drose

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3/18/2013  12:45 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Interesting video, but 5'10"... can't do it. I think size is so important in the NBA; I wouldn't draft an undersized player at any position unless they were a can't miss superstar.

In many cases I agree with that. Thats why Ty Lawson went 18. But this is a special athlete. When I watche d him--he really looked like a Dwayne Wade or a Derrick Rose--despite being 5-10 or so--thats how fast and big he plays.Its hard trying to see so many guys play 1-2 times and in this case I was trying to look at their C and he caught my eye--this kid is special youll hear his name. He s a talent.


ty lawson would not be ty lawson without George Karl.
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3/18/2013  1:39 AM
I don't care how short he is. We need a pg who can get into the lane and create.

I know we're missing guys, but our offense today consisted of passing around the perimeter and jacking bad shots.

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3/18/2013  2:57 AM
franco12 wrote:I don't care how short he is. We need a pg who can get into the lane and create.

I know we're missing guys, but our offense today consisted of passing around the perimeter and jacking bad shots.


that is the offense of most NBA teams.
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3/18/2013  8:27 AM
If he cant shoot tho he wont make it
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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3/18/2013  11:51 AM
callmened wrote:If he cant shoot tho he wont make it

You dont avg nearly 20 points as a freshmen if you cant shoot. For example he outscored Shabazz Muhammed in the same league as a freshmen and put up better fg%

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3/18/2013  8:07 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Interesting video, but 5'10"... can't do it. I think size is so important in the NBA; I wouldn't draft an undersized player at any position unless they were a can't miss superstar.

In many cases I agree with that. Thats why Ty Lawson went 18. But this is a special athlete. When I watche d him--he really looked like a Dwayne Wade or a Derrick Rose--despite being 5-10 or so--thats how fast and big he plays.Its hard trying to see so many guys play 1-2 times and in this case I was trying to look at their C and he caught my eye--this kid is special youll hear his name. He s a talent.


I'm with you on Carson. He kind of reminds me Terell Brandon. But I think he may be gone before we pick. What thoughts do you guys have about Myck Kabango? There's also Wolters, Ray McCallum, CJ McCollum...there's no way we shouldn't come away with a solid PG pick this draft.
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3/18/2013  8:58 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Interesting video, but 5'10"... can't do it. I think size is so important in the NBA; I wouldn't draft an undersized player at any position unless they were a can't miss superstar.

In many cases I agree with that. Thats why Ty Lawson went 18. But this is a special athlete. When I watche d him--he really looked like a Dwayne Wade or a Derrick Rose--despite being 5-10 or so--thats how fast and big he plays.Its hard trying to see so many guys play 1-2 times and in this case I was trying to look at their C and he caught my eye--this kid is special youll hear his name. He s a talent.


I'm with you on Carson. He kind of reminds me Terell Brandon. But I think he may be gone before we pick. What thoughts do you guys have about Myck Kabango? There's also Wolters, Ray McCallum, CJ McCollum...there's no way we shouldn't come away with a solid PG pick this draft.

This draft is gold for PG's. If it were me, I would do my best to grab 2 PG's in this draft and Martell Webster with our money. If we were able to grab Wolters Carson and Webster--that would help set up a new core for our backcourt for the next 10 years and make the current team much better faster and more diverse. Were not going to trade Carmelo and were going to keep the ship forward--but at the minimum the management has to agree we need speed and help at PG--and I think it might be best that we part ways with the incredibly unpredictable JR Smith. Id like to see the team become a better passing team--more mobile and much faster. This player is the fastest player in CBB and next year if he stays will avg 23/24-6-4 and go top 7. If this draft is not as good as some predict then there should be an ability to buy a pick. Im sure a team would have to promise Jahii that they would pick him--hes only a freshmen and I doubt he comes out without a real promise. But that would be my plan for us with what I see and what we have in front of us--to make us faster more athletic diverse and a better passing team.

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3/18/2013  9:48 PM
I know nothing about this kid but i trust your judgement (btw i DONT think muhammed is that good). but if dude cant shoot then hes useless.

the knicks SHOULD draft young and part ways with JR smith. i doubt theyll do that though. most likely theyll pick some euro that weve never heard of and use him as a trading chip in the future.

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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3/19/2013  1:39 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Interesting video, but 5'10"... can't do it. I think size is so important in the NBA; I wouldn't draft an undersized player at any position unless they were a can't miss superstar.

In many cases I agree with that. Thats why Ty Lawson went 18. But this is a special athlete. When I watche d him--he really looked like a Dwayne Wade or a Derrick Rose--despite being 5-10 or so--thats how fast and big he plays.Its hard trying to see so many guys play 1-2 times and in this case I was trying to look at their C and he caught my eye--this kid is special youll hear his name. He s a talent.

Well, I think he's too small. And even 5'10" seems like an overestimate. Do we really want a guy whose ceiling is Nate Robinson? These guys are nice sparks off the bench, but have tons of trouble on defense because guards just shoot over them or post them up. That negates the scoring spark most of the time. Even Iverson struggled with this because he was a 6'1" SG. Guys like this are also hard to get value for in trades because every team doesn't want to pay a lot for undersized guys. It's not the direction I would go.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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3/20/2013  11:09 PM
If anyone doesnt think this kid is for real--go check out the 2nd half on ESPNU. He is destroying Ray Mccallum--this kid is a special special player.
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3/20/2013  11:57 PM
He blows by his defender, and gets to the line a lot
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3/21/2013  12:34 AM
...ty lawson would not be ty lawson without George Karl...

True. Denver/Karl have made Lawson's career.

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3/21/2013  12:45 AM
NYY1NYK2 wrote:He blows by his defender, and gets to the line a lot

This guys speed is breath taking. Hes faster than Lawson.

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3/21/2013  8:52 AM
His teammate Carrick Feix is also a very good candidate for a 2nd round pick.
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Jahii Carson 5-10.5 5-11 version of Derrick Rose freshmen As state

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