Don't talk to me about depth because I'm not sure you can be any deeper at 2 positions
Don't talk to me about youth either, cause both Lin and Shump went down last season

The Basketball Gods don't have love for NY cause I don't know how to explain the injuries knicks players occur at the most crucial point of a season. When have you ever seen wade, bosh and james out of a game. Infact when have you seen more the one of them out at a time.

The knicks can trade for Steph curry tomorrow, and within a few weeks he'll break an ankle and have to miss 3 months and the media and fans would be killing the knicks for having traded for a player with a history of ankle injuries(really only a yr).

I'm not saying age doesn't play a factor, but there has to be some kind of HEX on this franchise

3G4G wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:That Sheed, Amare, Melo and Tyson, would be out at the same time, now we have a hobble kmart(who we just sign) and a one legged Camby.

Don't talk to me about depth because I'm not sure you can be any deeper at 2 positions
Don't talk to me about youth either, cause both Lin and Shump went down last season

The Basketball Gods don't have love for NY cause I don't know how to explain the injuries knicks players occur at the most crucial point of a season. When have you ever seen wade, bosh and james out of a game. Infact when have you seen more the one of them out at a time.

The knicks can trade for Steph curry tomorrow, and within a few weeks he'll break an ankle and have to miss 3 months and the media and fans would be killing the knicks for having traded for a player with a history of ankle injuries(really only a yr).

I'm not saying age doesn't play a factor, but there has to be some kind of HEX on this franchise

LIN and Shump went down later in the season....meanwhile most of the other guys have been injured all year. There are other teams suffering or who have suffered a significant amount of injuries this year

The problem is when you sign guys who have injury history or who are injury prone it puts pressure on the rest of the team. Besides certain players being past playing age...you have players playing out of their natural positions and overcompensating for things they shouldn't be doing or in places they shouldn't be.... on the court. This leads to potentially injuring remaining players....

Grunwald put together a NO MARGIN FOR ERROR TEAM, with zero flexibility. Not one bit surprised by what we're dealing with right now.

I don't know if tyson banging knees with another play is over compensating, or amare going 1 minute over is projected miutes..melo playing a lot of minutes may have contributed to his injury, but he's a All star and most play hefty minutes.

kidd miss a hand full of games and felton wasn't over compensated when he fractured his pinkie. Rasheed maybe..

There is flexibilty, despite what some may think, Amare's contract maybe the only tough contract on this roster. Everyone else can be moved, besides there's not a whole lot of quality FA coming up that plan on testing the market.

You can be creative with this roster to make a few moves and get a little younger or stronger at the PG position

Btw , it's not that Lin and Shump went down towards the end of the season, it's the timing..

maybe if lins around we win a couple more games and wouldn't have face miaimi in the first round
shump getting hurt in the 1st game of the 1st round, with amare following him the next day off of a self inflicted injury, like explain that..

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:That Sheed, Amare, Melo and Tyson, would be out at the same time, now we have a hobble kmart(who we just sign) and a one legged Camby.

Don't talk to me about depth because I'm not sure you can be any deeper at 2 positions
Don't talk to me about youth either, cause both Lin and Shump went down last season

The Basketball Gods don't have love for NY cause I don't know how to explain the injuries knicks players occur at the most crucial point of a season. When have you ever seen wade, bosh and james out of a game. Infact when have you seen more the one of them out at a time.

The knicks can trade for Steph curry tomorrow, and within a few weeks he'll break an ankle and have to miss 3 months and the media and fans would be killing the knicks for having traded for a player with a history of ankle injuries(really only a yr).

I'm not saying age doesn't play a factor, but there has to be some kind of HEX on this franchise

LIN and Shump went down later in the season....meanwhile most of the other guys have been injured all year. There are other teams suffering or who have suffered a significant amount of injuries this year

The problem is when you sign guys who have injury history or who are injury prone it puts pressure on the rest of the team. Besides certain players being past playing age...you have players playing out of their natural positions and overcompensating for things they shouldn't be doing or in places they shouldn't be.... on the court. This leads to potentially injuring remaining players....

Grunwald put together a NO MARGIN FOR ERROR TEAM, with zero flexibility. Not one bit surprised by what we're dealing with right now.

I don't agree with the later in the season argument. It was a 66 game season. The Knicks have played 62 or 63 games. If you want to say it was because it was a compressed schedule that would be a bit different. Lin didn't play much for the first quarter of the season so that really doesn't excuse his injury. I think Shump was hurt in the first game of the season. Tyson, Melo and Felton should be in their prime and all have been injured this year. The Knicks have bad luck. Look at the Celtics older players. The Spurs do a better job of resting their old guys but again they are a veteran team that relies on their older players.

Iman played 59 of 66gms last year so what I stated on him is accurate he didn't really get injured until the playoffs

As far as Lin okay he came late and guess what he played in more straight games last year 35 than Amar'e/K-Mart/Sheed/Camby/Kidd before getting their injuries so ditto again. Factor in recovery time from injuries and it's not close comparing young to old

I'm Going To The Vending Machine To Take My 15min Break

3G4G wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:That Sheed, Amare, Melo and Tyson, would be out at the same time, now we have a hobble kmart(who we just sign) and a one legged Camby.

Don't talk to me about depth because I'm not sure you can be any deeper at 2 positions
Don't talk to me about youth either, cause both Lin and Shump went down last season

The Basketball Gods don't have love for NY cause I don't know how to explain the injuries knicks players occur at the most crucial point of a season. When have you ever seen wade, bosh and james out of a game. Infact when have you seen more the one of them out at a time.

The knicks can trade for Steph curry tomorrow, and within a few weeks he'll break an ankle and have to miss 3 months and the media and fans would be killing the knicks for having traded for a player with a history of ankle injuries(really only a yr).

I'm not saying age doesn't play a factor, but there has to be some kind of HEX on this franchise

LIN and Shump went down later in the season....meanwhile most of the other guys have been injured all year. There are other teams suffering or who have suffered a significant amount of injuries this year

The problem is when you sign guys who have injury history or who are injury prone it puts pressure on the rest of the team. Besides certain players being past playing age...you have players playing out of their natural positions and overcompensating for things they shouldn't be doing or in places they shouldn't be.... on the court. This leads to potentially injuring remaining players....

Grunwald put together a NO MARGIN FOR ERROR TEAM, with zero flexibility. Not one bit surprised by what we're dealing with right now.

I don't agree with the later in the season argument. It was a 66 game season. The Knicks have played 62 or 63 games. If you want to say it was because it was a compressed schedule that would be a bit different. Lin didn't play much for the first quarter of the season so that really doesn't excuse his injury. I think Shump was hurt in the first game of the season. Tyson, Melo and Felton should be in their prime and all have been injured this year. The Knicks have bad luck. Look at the Celtics older players. The Spurs do a better job of resting their old guys but again they are a veteran team that relies on their older players.

Iman played 59 of 66gms last year so what I stated on him is accurate he didn't really get injured until the playoffs

As far as Lin okay he came late and guess what he played in more straight games last year 35 than Amar'e/K-Mart/Sheed/Camby/Kidd before getting their injuries so ditto again. Factor in recovery time from injuries and it's not close comparing young to old

I'm Going To The Vending Machine To Take My 15min Break

Contact injuries are different. Not sure why Kmart is on that list. Lin was 23. Amare and Sheed came to camp with chronic issues. They also are very talented. Not going to sweat Sheed on a vet mini if things don't work out. Iman was hurt in that first game against the celts and that was the knee that gave out. Hope you can count the change right at the vending machine. If not go a dollar over.

Nalod wrote:who would have thought?

charles Barkley.

Some have said: "you create your own luck"

When you lack depth and starphuch you create "bad luck". Too much reliance of few assets and when you do that they break down. We ran Lin and shump into the ground.

When the opportunity is presented (playoffs) we break either physically or mentally.

We'll not rebuild the roster because we don't have much in assets to do so. But we'll rebuild the hype.

Either way works for the purpose of improving the MSG balance sheet. Guess which one we are more likely to apply?

"Who would have thought"?

How can one logically think otherwise? No surprises, but always disappointed.

Homer, Somber or hater are all disappointed!

knicks1248 wrote:That Sheed, Amare, Melo and Tyson, would be out at the same time, now we have a hobble kmart(who we just sign) and a one legged Camby.

Don't talk to me about depth because I'm not sure you can be any deeper at 2 positions
Don't talk to me about youth either, cause both Lin and Shump went down last season

The Basketball Gods don't have love for NY cause I don't know how to explain the injuries knicks players occur at the most crucial point of a season. When have you ever seen wade, bosh and james out of a game. Infact when have you seen more the one of them out at a time.

The knicks can trade for Steph curry tomorrow, and within a few weeks he'll break an ankle and have to miss 3 months and the media and fans would be killing the knicks for having traded for a player with a history of ankle injuries(really only a yr).

I'm not saying age doesn't play a factor, but there has to be some kind of HEX on this franchise

People still don't believe in the Patrick Ewing Witch Doctor Curse

History keeps repeating, but no one's learning.
Stat was run into the ground.
We were having conversations about PDiddy and MBibby's medicare status for months, remember?

We've been old for a long time. Hurts happen! Thank God, Jimmie's got nice insurance plans!

Although the Knicks have been disappointing, paid attendance at least hasn’t suffered significantly. In the last 10 years, the average attendance has never dipped below 97 percent of the Garden’s 19,763 per game capacity.