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IronWillGiroud
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I wrote it off, I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you. I'm a huge optimist in general, but really I can't sit here and nurture the delusion that this team can make noise in the playoffs.

They came in and they were in the mood to ball for a while, went 18-5, then became complacent. That's just not what a winning team does.

I've written the season off, sealed the envelope and dropped it in the mailbox
You're crazy, man; this team can turn it on on demand, that's how they do!!
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CrushAlot
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3/12/2013  7:50 PM
I have written off a lot of seasons over the past thirteen years but never one when the Knicks were second in the east and first in the Atlantic in March.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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VCoug
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3/12/2013  8:52 PM
I'm close
Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
IronWillGiroud
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3/12/2013  9:23 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I have written off a lot of seasons over the past thirteen years but never one when the Knicks were second in the east and first in the Atlantic in March.

You're not gonna be able to hang your hat on that for long at the rate this is going

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gunsnewing
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3/12/2013  9:39 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I have written off a lot of seasons over the past thirteen years but never one when the Knicks were second in the east and first in the Atlantic in March.

You're not gonna be able to hang your hat on that for long at the rate this is going

I'm afraid you are right

SupremeCommander
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3/12/2013  9:42 PM
the ceiling of this team isn't as high as I thought it was, however, you cannot possibly write this team off. It has a good record against good teams. The Knicks just have to get hot at the right time. The Spurs and the Thunder are probably the only teams that legitimately have a shot against the Heat. But the Knicks should be able to meet them in the ECF. And that would not be a disappointment to me at all.
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MSG3
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3/12/2013  9:52 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:the ceiling of this team isn't as high as I thought it was, however, you cannot possibly write this team off. It has a good record against good teams. The Knicks just have to get hot at the right time. The Spurs and the Thunder are probably the only teams that legitimately have a shot against the Heat. But the Knicks should be able to meet them in the ECF. And that would not be a disappointment to me at all.

Agree. Just get healthy for April.

VCoug
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3/13/2013  1:39 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:the ceiling of this team isn't as high as I thought it was, however, you cannot possibly write this team off. It has a good record against good teams. The Knicks just have to get hot at the right time. The Spurs and the Thunder are probably the only teams that legitimately have a shot against the Heat. But the Knicks should be able to meet them in the ECF. And that would not be a disappointment to me at all.

15-16 is a good record? It's 2nd in the East, effectively tied with Boston at 18-19, and 8th in the league.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
JamesLin
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3/13/2013  3:56 AM
I don't believe we'll ever get the championship as long as Jimmy Dol is the owner. Hopefully, he will sell the team soon. Maybe some fanatic fan will threaten his life to do so... *crossing my fingers*
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BRIGGS
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3/13/2013  4:54 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I have written off a lot of seasons over the past thirteen years but never one when the Knicks were second in the east and first in the Atlantic in March.

The bottom line is that we put ourselves into the position of possibilities. However this is not the same team that went 18-4 to start the season and we have to be honest and account for that.

No team in the history of basketball has been 29th(2nd to last) in assists and won an NBA championship. Since beating Sacramento weve only hit 100 points in 4 of the last 17 games while we started the season by scoring 100 or more 14 of the first 18 games. We currently have 6 guys in our top 9 that shoot under 42%. It is of my opinion that our starting 2 G and SF Iman Shumpert and James White are nothing more than D league fodder. I feel bad for Iman but Iman is simply not an NBA core player right now. Our move to bring in older vets has now showed why there was criticism for the move--have not held up. While we can play a good game and beat mediocre teams--this is not a championship team or anything close to it. Our hopes would largely be dependent on Miami getting injured and for the Knicks to be able to beat teams we have a very bad collective record against Indiana Chicago Boston. Eye test--is this a championship team--or even close? Or is it a team that jump started well and gave false hope due to multiple aging and or injured players who could not hold up?


I think the New York Knicks are run by Isiah Thomas and James Dolan. While Dolan might be a ruthless successful businessman who just happened to be the right person's son--he has had an arrogant approach to running the basketball operations of this team and boy has it showed. Weve outspent every single team for the last 10 years and have 1 playoff win to show for it. Like Nolad has said--we have starphucked ourselves at every point we have been able to. We are not the teams that end up with the Kevin Durants the D Wades--we end up with SELFISH MFers like Marbury Carmelo and have mortgaged the team three years at a time to do so. We havent had our own top 5 draft pick in over 25 years--think about that.

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3/13/2013  5:46 AM
Dolan made a decision a long time ago to compete with the Broadway shows with his controversial signings and dealings with newspaper back page drama. Why most of you guys haven't figured that out by now boggles my mind.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
GustavBahler
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3/13/2013  10:19 AM
MSG3 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:the ceiling of this team isn't as high as I thought it was, however, you cannot possibly write this team off. It has a good record against good teams. The Knicks just have to get hot at the right time. The Spurs and the Thunder are probably the only teams that legitimately have a shot against the Heat. But the Knicks should be able to meet them in the ECF. And that would not be a disappointment to me at all.

Agree. Just get healthy for April.

Ditto.

SupremeCommander
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3/13/2013  11:39 AM
VCoug wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:the ceiling of this team isn't as high as I thought it was, however, you cannot possibly write this team off. It has a good record against good teams. The Knicks just have to get hot at the right time. The Spurs and the Thunder are probably the only teams that legitimately have a shot against the Heat. But the Knicks should be able to meet them in the ECF. And that would not be a disappointment to me at all.

15-16 is a good record? It's 2nd in the East, effectively tied with Boston at 18-19, and 8th in the league.

you know, I just went through the schedule and got the same exact number as you. I admit, I didn't really realize it because I haven't had the time to follow the team the way I have before. But they're 2nd in the EC while being hit hard by injuries

This team has the ability to play exceptionally well though. I hate that they want to turn it on and off all the time. But it is a veteran team and I worry less about a team like this as opposed to a young team with Nate and Craw on it. The team has key players who were teammates on the WCF Nuggets team, the repeat NBA Finals NJ Nets team, and the NBA Champion Mavericks team. Hell, we even have someone who was Dwyane Wade's teammate during his masterful NCAA tournament run

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smackeddog
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3/13/2013  2:46 PM
What's the point in writing the team off before the playoffs have even begun? The key thing about the playoffs is that some players and teams up their game, some choke- it ain't the regular season. People wrote the team off in 1997 and 1999- I'm going to keep rooting for this team and will keep hoping they win until its all over.

I've actually enjoyed this season, and I liked and appreciated all the wins, some people have been doom mongering since the preseason!

tj23
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3/13/2013  3:17 PM
I haven't written the season off but for a short while there I thought a finals appearance was a possibility. Not anymore. Still, maybe we get hot and win a playoff series or two. That's about as optimistic as I can get. I just hope it's Brooklyn or Milwaukee in the first round. They scare me the least.
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3/13/2013  5:28 PM
This is weak.
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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3/13/2013  5:51 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I have written off a lot of seasons over the past thirteen years but never one when the Knicks were second in the east and first in the Atlantic in March.

The bottom line is that we put ourselves into the position of possibilities. However this is not the same team that went 18-4 to start the season and we have to be honest and account for that.

No team in the history of basketball has been 29th(2nd to last) in assists and won an NBA championship. Since beating Sacramento weve only hit 100 points in 4 of the last 17 games while we started the season by scoring 100 or more 14 of the first 18 games. We currently have 6 guys in our top 9 that shoot under 42%. It is of my opinion that our starting 2 G and SF Iman Shumpert and James White are nothing more than D league fodder. I feel bad for Iman but Iman is simply not an NBA core player right now. Our move to bring in older vets has now showed why there was criticism for the move--have not held up. While we can play a good game and beat mediocre teams--this is not a championship team or anything close to it. Our hopes would largely be dependent on Miami getting injured and for the Knicks to be able to beat teams we have a very bad collective record against Indiana Chicago Boston. Eye test--is this a championship team--or even close? Or is it a team that jump started well and gave false hope due to multiple aging and or injured players who could not hold up?


I think the New York Knicks are run by Isiah Thomas and James Dolan. While Dolan might be a ruthless successful businessman who just happened to be the right person's son--he has had an arrogant approach to running the basketball operations of this team and boy has it showed. Weve outspent every single team for the last 10 years and have 1 playoff win to show for it. Like Nolad has said--we have starphucked ourselves at every point we have been able to. We are not the teams that end up with the Kevin Durants the D Wades--we end up with SELFISH MFers like Marbury Carmelo and have mortgaged the team three years at a time to do so. We havent had our own top 5 draft pick in over 25 years--think about that.

+1

Incredibly accurate assessment of the current state of the team.

Time to watch hockey, I guess.

If we miss the play offs, and I could see that happen with the way things are lining up, will that go down as the greatest failure/choke job of all time?

CrushAlot
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3/13/2013  8:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I have written off a lot of seasons over the past thirteen years but never one when the Knicks were second in the east and first in the Atlantic in March.

The bottom line is that we put ourselves into the position of possibilities. However this is not the same team that went 18-4 to start the season and we have to be honest and account for that.

No team in the history of basketball has been 29th(2nd to last) in assists and won an NBA championship. Since beating Sacramento weve only hit 100 points in 4 of the last 17 games while we started the season by scoring 100 or more 14 of the first 18 games. We currently have 6 guys in our top 9 that shoot under 42%. It is of my opinion that our starting 2 G and SF Iman Shumpert and James White are nothing more than D league fodder. I feel bad for Iman but Iman is simply not an NBA core player right now. Our move to bring in older vets has now showed why there was criticism for the move--have not held up. While we can play a good game and beat mediocre teams--this is not a championship team or anything close to it. Our hopes would largely be dependent on Miami getting injured and for the Knicks to be able to beat teams we have a very bad collective record against Indiana Chicago Boston. Eye test--is this a championship team--or even close? Or is it a team that jump started well and gave false hope due to multiple aging and or injured players who could not hold up?


I think the New York Knicks are run by Isiah Thomas and James Dolan. While Dolan might be a ruthless successful businessman who just happened to be the right person's son--he has had an arrogant approach to running the basketball operations of this team and boy has it showed. Weve outspent every single team for the last 10 years and have 1 playoff win to show for it. Like Nolad has said--we have starphucked ourselves at every point we have been able to. We are not the teams that end up with the Kevin Durants the D Wades--we end up with SELFISH MFers like Marbury Carmelo and have mortgaged the team three years at a time to do so. We havent had our own top 5 draft pick in over 25 years--think about that.

You said a lot of things. I think the team mortgaged three years under Walsh. There was a very simplistic plan that didn't work and now the Knicks are handcuffed with Amare's huge contract on the books. In regards to top 5 picks I only remember the ones traded during the Thomas era. I believe they were the picks that ended up being Aldridge and Noah. Were there other top 5 picks moved? The Knicks traded their lottery pick in the mcgrady trade. They traded the 7th pick and Camby for a hobbled Dice. The entire Thomas tenure was a disgrace and I don't think it could been mishandled or been more dysfunctional. However,can you think of a gm that passes up on the opportunity to get a 26 year old superstar? And when did Melo start getting mentioned in the same sentence as Marbury? There are a lot of class guys on the Knicks and some with a championship pedigree that chose to come and play in NY with him. The Knicks signed Amare Stoudemire with the intention that he was going to be 22+ and 8+ a night and they locked up their cap space to have that. Not sure why this signing and its failing isn't recognized as what is wrong with the Knicks.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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