Bonn1997 wrote: It's not just the money. The Rockets' average player has 1.7 years of experience. The Knicks teams of the past decade have been underachieving veterans.

"Underachieving veterans"? Yea. Right.

Jason Kidd has started 146 postseason games. NBA All-Rookie First Team. NBA Co-Rookie of the year. NBA Skills Challenge Champion. 10x All-Star. 5× All-NBA First Team. 1x All-NBA Second Team. 4× NBA All-Defensive First Team. 5× NBA All-Defensive Second Team. 5× NBA assists leader. NBA Champion (2011). 2x American Gold Medalist Olympian (2000 & 2008).

Carmelo Anthony has started 54 postseason games. FIBA World Championship All-Tournament Team. NBA All-Rookie First Team. NBA Rookie Challenge MVP. 4× All-NBA Third Team. All-NBA Second Team. 6× NBA All-Star.

Amar'e Stoudemire has started 60 postseason games. NBA Rookie Challenge MVP. NBA All-Rookie First Team. NBA Rookie of the Year. 4x All-NBA Second Team. All-NBA First Team. 6× NBA All-Star.

Marcus Camby has started 43 postseason games. NBA All-Rookie First Team. 4× NBA blocks leader (1998, 2006, 2007, 2008). 2× All-Defensive Second Team (2005–2006). 2× All-Defensive First Team (2007–2008). NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2007).

Tyson Chandler has started 42 postseason games. NBA All-Defensive Second Team. All-NBA Third Team. NBA Defensive Player of the Year. 1x NBA All-Star (2013). 1x NBA champion (2011). 1x American Gold Medalist Olympian. 2x American Gold Medalist Olympian.

And if you're considering the likes of Kenyon Martin, Kurt Thomas and Pablo Prigioni as being "underachieving veterans" you're extremely clueless in regards to the game of basketball.

Also, if you're considering some of these veterans as being "underachievers" due to not winning an NBA Championship as of yet, always keep in mind that the likes of fan favorite ex-Knicks such as Jeremy Lin, Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Anthony Randolph, Timofey Mozgov, Zach Randolph and David Lee have yet to win an NBA championship nor enjoy postseason success either. John Stockton, Mark Price, Mark Jackson, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Steve Nash, CP3, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, Reggie Miller, Anfernee Hardaway, T-Mac, Allen Iverson, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Andre Iguodala, Joe Johnson, Bernard King, Dominique Wilkins, Chris Mullin, Kevin Durant, Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, Danny Granger, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Shawn Kemp, Chris Webber, Elton Brand, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge, Patrick Ewing, Dikembe Mutombo, Vlade Divac, Yao Ming and Dwight Howard have all never and/or yet to win an NBA Championship.

Also...

LeBron James never won his first ring until his 9th NBA season (during a shortened NBA season).
David Robinson never won his first ring until his 10th NBA season.
Hakeem Olajuwon never won his first ring until his 10th NBA season.
Paul Pierce never won his first ring until his 10th NBA season.
Ray Allen never won his first ring until his 12th NBA season.
Clyde Drexler never won his first ring until his 12th NBA season.
Alonzo Mourning never won his first ring until his 13th NBA season.
Kevin Garnett never won his first ring until his 13th NBA season.
Dirk Nowitzki never won his first ring until his 13th NBA season.
Gary Payton never won his first ring until his 17th NBA season.

"The Knicks teams of the past decade have been underachieving veterans".

What complete garbage.

sidsanders wrote:you sure he wasnt talking about zach, crawford, marbury, curry, rose (malik or jalen), etc?

Exactly

Bonn1997 wrote:I was referring to past seasons. This year is to be determined.

Ok then I took it out of context and apologize for doing so. We can lock this thread up since it's off topic in regards to what you were actually speaking of.