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Bonn1997
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3/1/2013  8:24 AM
West seems like the best choice even though he's a head case and it's a big risk. Signing Raja Bell isn't going to make a big difference and our current back-court isn't getting it done. In the front-court, hopefully we will have Camby coming back.
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Every weekday throughout the season, ESPNNewYork.com will tackle a burning question about the Knicks in our "Opening Tip" segment.

Today's Burning Question: Should the Knicks release Rasheed Wallace to sign a defensive-minded center or guard?

Chances are Glen Grunwald, Allan Houston, Mike Woodson and the Knicks' front office are in a room somewhere right now discussing what to do about Wallace -- among other issues, of course, as the team has been mostly playing .500 ball for the past few months.

But with Wallace, the question is: Do they wait him out and hope that he's ready for the playoffs, or release him now to sign another big?

On one hand, remember how long it took him to get back into NBA shape -- not simply conditioning shape -- before the season? There could be a major delay with his return, if he returns at all. One source close to the team still thinks "he's done."

On the other hand, the field of serviceable centers is basically nonexistent. The one sleeper pick is Henry Sims, who's been playing very well on the Knicks' D-League team, the Erie BayHawks, as he's averaging 17 points, 8.9 rebounds and 1.6 blocks per game. An NBA scout who has watched Sims has been impressed with the center's progression because the D-League favors guard play.

Another option for the Knicks is to release Wallace and sign a veteran defensive-minded guard who can also shoot. This would benefit the team's bench, which has been struggling to guard opposing wing players and hit 3-pointers -- a key to the Knicks' offense. While more zone D would help the second unit -- evident in their win over the Celtics on Jan. 24 -- Woodson comes from the Bobby Knight school, where man-to-man is the only way.

Two intriguing guards who fit the criteria above are free agent Delonte West, 29, and Utah's Raja Bell, 36. West wants back in the NBA -- he last played in the D-League -- and the Jazz could buy out Bell's contract soon. From 2004-12, West averaged 9.7 points (on 37.2 percent 3-point shooting) and 1.1 steals per game; and from 2000-12, Bell averaged 9.9 points (on 40.6 percent 3-point shooting) and nearly one steal per game.

Considering Bell is older, it's likely the Knicks would find West more attractive. As one NBA scout put it, "They don't need another senior citizen." Additionally, Bell reportedly has his heart set out on playing with Kobe Bryant, who has previously recruited him.

While West suffers from bipolar disorder, an NBA scout who has worked with the Mavericks, West's most recent NBA team, said the guard could help the Knicks.

"He's not a bad guy," the scout told ESPNNewYork.com. "He can play, knows how to play and is a good defender. [The Knicks] are not losing anything if they offer a non-guaranteed deal. They do need a big, but there's not any."

An agent agreed saying, "West is a good name."

The Knicks could also choose to retain Wallace and then not renew Kenyon Martin's contract in order to sign someone else.

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3/1/2013  8:37 AM
Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.
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3/1/2013  8:45 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

We have enough vets to take on West--not a bad idea--we need an upgrade badly not fair to knicks fans to let this play out while being fairly close to have two guys who are hurt and cant do it right now kill our chances a healthy body skilled vet is needed

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3/1/2013  8:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/1/2013  8:46 AM
West would probably be our best back-court member right now - not because he's outstanding. He's a little above average but everyone else sucks.
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3/1/2013  8:47 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

I like this plan, if the only thing West does it banish Prigioni to benchwarmer status I'll be happy. I'd also like to bring in Casspi if he gets bought out; he was supposedly talented at one point and is still young enough to turn his career around.

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3/1/2013  8:48 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

We have enough vets to take on West--not a bad idea--we need an upgrade badly not fair to knicks fans to let this play out while being fairly close to have two guys who are hurt and cant do it right now kill our chances a healthy body skilled vet is needed


He's got bipolar disorder. He could enter a manic phase and do ****ed up **** again like the alleged incident with Lebron's mom. It's a gamble.
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3/1/2013  8:49 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

We have enough vets to take on West--not a bad idea--we need an upgrade badly not fair to knicks fans to let this play out while being fairly close to have two guys who are hurt and cant do it right now kill our chances a healthy body skilled vet is needed


He's got bipolar disorder. He could enter a manic phase and do ****ed up **** again like the alleged incident with Lebron's mom. It's a gamble.

with sheed gone, west would be the team's only legit two-way player. that helps cohesion a lot.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/1/2013  8:57 AM
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

We have enough vets to take on West--not a bad idea--we need an upgrade badly not fair to knicks fans to let this play out while being fairly close to have two guys who are hurt and cant do it right now kill our chances a healthy body skilled vet is needed


He's got bipolar disorder. He could enter a manic phase and do ****ed up **** again like the alleged incident with Lebron's mom. It's a gamble.

with sheed gone, west would be the team's only legit two-way player. that helps cohesion a lot.

I don't want to derail this thread but I have to ask...you don't think Tyson has a positive impact on both ends of the court? Look at his scoring efficiency and offensive rebounds.

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3/1/2013  9:10 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

We have enough vets to take on West--not a bad idea--we need an upgrade badly not fair to knicks fans to let this play out while being fairly close to have two guys who are hurt and cant do it right now kill our chances a healthy body skilled vet is needed


He's got bipolar disorder. He could enter a manic phase and do ****ed up **** again like the alleged incident with Lebron's mom. It's a gamble.

with sheed gone, west would be the team's only legit two-way player. that helps cohesion a lot.

I don't want to derail this thread but I have to ask...you don't think Tyson has a positive impact on both ends of the court? Look at his scoring efficiency and offensive rebounds.

He definitely does but his offensive game is completely reliant on everyone else because he doesn't have a single move. Having an intelligent player like Tyson who knows when to cut to the hoop and is a great rebounder is an awesome asset to have but he's not someone you can rely on offensively.

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3/1/2013  9:26 AM
VCoug wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Keep Martin, release Wallace and sign West even though I dont see him getting much playing time.

We have enough vets to take on West--not a bad idea--we need an upgrade badly not fair to knicks fans to let this play out while being fairly close to have two guys who are hurt and cant do it right now kill our chances a healthy body skilled vet is needed


He's got bipolar disorder. He could enter a manic phase and do ****ed up **** again like the alleged incident with Lebron's mom. It's a gamble.

with sheed gone, west would be the team's only legit two-way player. that helps cohesion a lot.

I don't want to derail this thread but I have to ask...you don't think Tyson has a positive impact on both ends of the court? Look at his scoring efficiency and offensive rebounds.

He definitely does but his offensive game is completely reliant on everyone else because he doesn't have a single move. Having an intelligent player like Tyson who knows when to cut to the hoop and is a great rebounder is an awesome asset to have but he's not someone you can rely on offensively.


I'd agree he depends on others to set him up (except for when he gets offensive rebounds. But I do think he's someone you can rely on. I think he's become a very reliable low double digit efficient scorer.
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3/1/2013  9:31 AM
Id sign west for a few months..hes young andd can ball
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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3/1/2013  9:34 AM
callmened wrote:Id sign west for a few months..hes young andd can ball

He'd practically be like a rookie on this team!
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3/1/2013  10:04 AM
Maybe they should call Gilbert Arena's in for a workout. He'd fit in with the gimpy knee squad
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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3/1/2013  10:15 AM
I rather sign D-League players that are young active. I want some yoot infusion.
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3/1/2013  12:16 PM
I would say to just keep signing West to 10 day contracts if that's allowed. We can't f' around with Rasheed though. He's hurt and if he's really out until the playoffs (Which I highly doubt) then is he going to be in shape for that? Probably not. Keep K-Mart, ease Camby in, pray to God those 2 stay healthyish and bring in West. If Kidd regresses more than start playing West. It looks like Shumpert might be coming along though so I'm not too worried about him. West could be a good backup for Felton too in case his vag continues to hurt.
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3/1/2013  12:21 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I rather sign D-League players that are young active. I want some yoot infusion.

Why? Woody would probably not play them, especially at this point of the season.

That said, I'd sign West, cut White and sign big man Sims.

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3/1/2013  1:24 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I rather sign D-League players that are young active. I want some yoot infusion.

Why? Woody would probably not play them, especially at this point of the season.

That said, I'd sign West, cut White and sign big man Sims.

when is the last time you saw West play? You do want to see this club improve, not regress?

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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3/1/2013  1:26 PM
I'd take Raja Bell if it was between he and West. At least Bell has been on a roster and practicing. Not sure how much playing time he's gotten, but still. He's a solid vet. Might as well add another.
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3/1/2013  1:27 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I rather sign D-League players that are young active. I want some yoot infusion.

Why? Woody would probably not play them, especially at this point of the season.

That said, I'd sign West, cut White and sign big man Sims.

when is the last time you saw West play? You do want to see this club improve, not regress?

Well, when's the last time he's actually played? May 5th of last year.

Also, he's an awful teammate. Sleeping with a players mother? Doesn't get more trash than West in regards to being a horrible teammate. He could've got off with lots of woman, but instead, chose to fk LeBron's own mother. Guy doesn't even deserve to be considered a 'teammate'. He's trash of a person.

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3/1/2013  1:37 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I rather sign D-League players that are young active. I want some yoot infusion.

Why? Woody would probably not play them, especially at this point of the season.

That said, I'd sign West, cut White and sign big man Sims.

when is the last time you saw West play? You do want to see this club improve, not regress?

Well, when's the last time he's actually played? May 5th of last year.

Also, he's an awful teammate. Sleeping with a players mother? Doesn't get more trash than West in regards to being a horrible teammate. He could've got off with lots of woman, but instead, chose to fk LeBron's own mother. Guy doesn't even deserve to be considered a 'teammate'. He's trash of a person.


There's no proof of that and his team mates have always loved him.
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