I get that it's a hard play to defend, which is why it's a staple of so just about every pro offense, but we seem particularly vulnerable.

I was glad to see us do some hard traps off the PnR last night (can't remember seeing much of that earlier in the season). If we're gonna switch every time, and I was coaching against us, I'd run the play every time with a big setting the pick for my best playmaker. You wind up with two mismatches and can take your choice of which one to exploit.

IMO, unless you've got a really great defensive team, you've got to switch up your defensive tactics against the PnR -- sometimes hard trap, sometimes show but no switch, sometimes switch. We've been too predictable, switching almost every time.

I don't know why Woody isn't working on this more.

callmened wrote:the bigs (besides tyson) are lazy and have no lateral quickness. Whenever stat guards a PNR it becomes a 5-4 break. Also our perimeter defenders dont get thru screens. I think theyre excellent at trapping the PNR at times but when they do that, the offense swings the ball and our def ALWAYS gets confused on rotations. Trapping simply leaves shooters WIDE open.

they need someone to at least SEAL OFF the penetration if theyre not gonna trap. That requires lateral quickness and effort

Tyson is included into the laziness too, sorry. He does not go all out every game. Maybe that is lack of subs but even when he had a sub he was up and down. He has been better since the all-star break though. Also, I like what Kmart was doing. He was hedging hard and trapping hard which created some TOs. Hopefully the effort continues.

callmened wrote:hey its not about playing favorites. While I admit his defense has regressed this yr, he still plays the PNR relatively well.

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/ECMRQRqLKyk
Watch this video, then you can compare to what Tyson does, and see how terrible his PnR defense has been.

Tyson likes to hang back. And when he does that, Felton can't recover. They get a good 2 man game going.

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/8Ga49vPn2ao

The man defending Amare: That's the position you'll usually see Tyson in.

Pick and roll defense is key to being a good defense, and Tyson is killing us.

callmened wrote:@tj23 ..i dont have the tapes of every single game and im not denying youre valid points. I just remember last game when they employed the tyson trap on curry, he was smothered and had to pass out of the double team. and from what i recall hes excellent at smothering the PNR. i feel that he has regressed in his blocking or at least blocking attempts...i feel like he doesnt even try anymore. I CANT TAKE Amare seriously on defense. Dude is absolutely lost and confused on defense. In his one-on-one defense he extends his hands too far and gets fouls. hes constantly backdoored and always loses his man. have you noticed that he NEVER looks at the ball. first thing i was taught was "BALL-YOU-MAN" so that you can see the player youre guarding AND the ball. Hes so focused on his man that players climb on his back when they go for a layup

Against GS they trapped Curry a couple times then went away from it. Gotta play D ALL the time. Plus when you trap you still have to get back. Tyson looks lost at times like he doesn't know where to run back to...

Cartman718 wrote:because we have chocolate boy on defense.

really?????