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2/25/2013  1:37 PM
Found this at ESPN. Pretty interesting stuff about the current season.

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

Strength of Schedule - 2012-2013

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2012-13 NBA RPI Rankings
RK	TEAM	             RPI	W	L	PCT	SOS	PWR	PF	PA	EWL	EWP
1	Houston	            .521	31	27	.534	.517	8	6168	6001	35-23	.611
2	New Orleans	    .472	20	37	.351	.513	24	5384	5545	22-35	.381
3	Phoenix	            .463	18	39	.316	.512	27	5391	5713	16-41	.277
4	Golden State	    .530	33	23	.589	.510	13	5667	5675	28-28	.494
5	LA Lakers	    .504	28	29	.491	.509	15	5815	5754	31-26	.543
6	Memphis	            .549	37	18	.673	.508	6	5030	4836	36-19	.657
7	LA Clippers	    .553	40	18	.690	.507	4	5822	5457	43-15	.744
 	Minnesota	    .474	20	33	.377	.507	26	5060	5175	22-31	.408
9	Denver	            .533	35	22	.614	.505	5	5997	5789	37-20	.642
 	Sacramento	    .462	19	38	.333	.505	28	5534	5944	13-44	.235
11	Brooklyn	    .523	33	24	.579	.504	12	5423	5404	29-28	.514
 	Washington	    .457	17	37	.315	.504	21	4969	5168	19-35	.343
 	San Antonio	    .572	45	13	.776	.504	1	6048	5558	46-12	.801
14	Miami	            .563	40	14	.741	.503	2	5573	5192	41-13	.763
 	Oklahoma City	    .560	41	15	.732	.503	3	5968	5461	45-11	.812
16	Utah	            .514	31	25	.554	.501	11	5516	5534	27-29	.487
17	Dallas	            .488	25	30	.455	.499	18	5584	5642	25-30	.457
18	Philadelphia	    .475	22	32	.407	.498	22	4977	5171	19-35	.347
19	Toronto	            .475	23	33	.411	.497	16	5457	5524	25-31	.450
20	Chicago	            .515	32	24	.571	.496	14	5181	5110	31-25	.557
21	Boston	            .501	29	27	.518	.495	10	5371	5371	28-28	.500
22	Charlotte	    .428	13	43	.232	.494	30	5150	5663	10-46	.173
23	Milwaukee	    .490	26	28	.481	.493	19	5277	5336	25-29	.454
 	Portland	    .486	26	30	.464	.493	20	5420	5581	21-35	.382
25	Detroit	            .463	22	36	.379	.491	23	5403	5538	23-35	.400
26	Atlanta	            .511	31	23	.574	.489	17	5260	5218	29-25	.533
27	Cleveland	    .446	18	38	.321	.488	25	5467	5670	20-36	.354
28	Indiana	            .522	35	21	.625	.487	7	5248	5009	38-18	.683
 	New York	    .521	33	20	.623	.487	9	5305	5104	35-18	.654
30	Orlando	            .424	15	41	.268	.476	29	5160	5482	15-41	.269

Glossary
RK: Rank
RPI: Relative Percent Index
W: Wins
L: Losses
PCT: Win Percentage
SOS: Strength of Schedule
PWR: ESPN Power Rank
PF: Points
PA: Points Against
EWL: Expected Win-Loss
EWP: Expected Winning Percentage
Relative Percent Index: The basic formula is 25% team winning percentage, 50% opponents' average winning percentage, and 25% opponents' opponents' average winning percentage.
Expected Winning Percentage and Win-Loss: Derived the Pythagorean 16.5 Method, the basketball adaptation of Bill James' Pythagorean theorem of baseball: Runs scored ^16.5 / (Runs scored ^16.5 + runs allowed ^16.5). This formula was designed to relate a team's points scored and points allowed to its won-lost record.
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2/25/2013  1:42 PM
We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though
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2/25/2013  1:52 PM
I don't think it is a good measure because it doesn't take into account the state of the team when you play them- could be lessened due to injuries, or a back to back etc. or maybe it does- I have no idea what half of those columns mean!
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2/25/2013  1:52 PM
3G4G wrote:We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though

Do you know Knicks SOS going forward?

Also, the top 10 in SOS is in the West. 5 teams in the East in the top 20.
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2/25/2013  1:57 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though

Do you know Knicks SOS going forward?

Also, the top 10 in SOS is in the West. 5 teams in the East in the top 20.

it means that indiana and new york will have a harder schedule of opponents going forward than houston and denver and memphis.

the three top teams have had the most even level of SOS at almost .500 and are lumped together.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/25/2013  2:03 PM
smackeddog wrote:I don't think it is a good measure because it doesn't take into account the state of the team when you play them- could be lessened due to injuries, or a back to back etc. or maybe it does- I have no idea what half of those columns mean!

It's an imperfect measure but that's not the same as saying it's not a good measure. What's the alternative? To ignore the quality of the team's opponents?
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2/25/2013  2:56 PM
dk7th wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though

Do you know Knicks SOS going forward?

Also, the top 10 in SOS is in the West. 5 teams in the East in the top 20.

it means that indiana and new york will have a harder schedule of opponents going forward than houston and denver and memphis.

the three top teams have had the most even level of SOS at almost .500 and are lumped together.

It does not bode well for the Knicks. Add to that their March and April schedule have a lot of back-to-backs. This is going to be tough. I see Knicks dropping to 5th, 6th or god forbid the 7th seed.
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2/25/2013  2:57 PM
When you rank it by rpi (tab over the RPI when on the site and it puts it in order) the better teams are on top.

We are 10th. Its a telling measure but not a predicter.

Seems to weigh on ESPN's power rankings.
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2/25/2013  4:30 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
dk7th wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though

Do you know Knicks SOS going forward?

Also, the top 10 in SOS is in the West. 5 teams in the East in the top 20.

it means that indiana and new york will have a harder schedule of opponents going forward than houston and denver and memphis.

the three top teams have had the most even level of SOS at almost .500 and are lumped together.

It does not bode well for the Knicks. Add to that their March and April schedule have a lot of back-to-backs. This is going to be tough. I see Knicks dropping to 5th, 6th or god forbid the 7th seed.

But then again we usually perform worse when the schedule is easy, so who knows what will happen. It's going to be tough, though, lets hope for the best.
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2/25/2013  4:56 PM
smackeddog wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
dk7th wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though

Do you know Knicks SOS going forward?

Also, the top 10 in SOS is in the West. 5 teams in the East in the top 20.

it means that indiana and new york will have a harder schedule of opponents going forward than houston and denver and memphis.

the three top teams have had the most even level of SOS at almost .500 and are lumped together.

It does not bode well for the Knicks. Add to that their March and April schedule have a lot of back-to-backs. This is going to be tough. I see Knicks dropping to 5th, 6th or god forbid the 7th seed.

But then again we usually perform worse when the schedule is easy, so who knows what will happen. It's going to be tough, though, lets hope for the best.

I am praying that the 3 headed PG monster will get their mojo back. That is the key to the season.
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2/25/2013  6:07 PM
WTF???......You cant use SOS in the NBA?!

This year...the Western Conf have the stronger teams (best records) so obviously western teams will be on top because they all play each other 4-5 teams throughout the season.

Knicks are 12-8 Vs. the West

Eventually....Brooklyn are going to drop as they start playing more Eastern Div teams and Spurs, Thunder and Jazz will move up.
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2/25/2013  6:19 PM
smackeddog wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
dk7th wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
3G4G wrote:We've Scussed this several times, including in the "Other Teams" thread. Denver and Houston have been Top 10 all year practically. It's a good metric of reference though

Do you know Knicks SOS going forward?

Also, the top 10 in SOS is in the West. 5 teams in the East in the top 20.

it means that indiana and new york will have a harder schedule of opponents going forward than houston and denver and memphis.

the three top teams have had the most even level of SOS at almost .500 and are lumped together.

It does not bode well for the Knicks. Add to that their March and April schedule have a lot of back-to-backs. This is going to be tough. I see Knicks dropping to 5th, 6th or god forbid the 7th seed.

But then again we usually perform worse when the schedule is easy, so who knows what will happen. It's going to be tough, though, lets hope for the best.


The Knicks are 10-12 against over .500 teams and 23-8 against sub .500 teams
They are also 20-8 at home and 13-12 on the road
I don't think what you're saying is accurate
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2/25/2013  7:29 PM
One of the columns as mentioned is Power Rankings and here they are visually chronicled. I tried to find pics for the other dates but it's extremely difficult...


02/25

01/28

01/07

12/31

12/24

12/17

12/10

12/03

11/26

11/19

11/12

11/05

10/29
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2/26/2013  8:23 AM
Mooby only pictured once?

Oh my!
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2/26/2013  10:59 AM
Found this site on Strength of Schedule for the remaining games.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/easternsosrg.html
http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/westernsosrg.html

Knicks have the 3rd toughest schedule in the EAST and the fact that the Knicks schedule has a lot of back-to-back makes it more daunting.

The Heat have the weakest schedule in the whole NBA. The rich get richer. The Nets is tied with the Heat for weakest schedule in the NBA.
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2/26/2013  11:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2013  11:03 AM
Knuggets also have a tough schedule.
Rockets has the weakest schedule in the WEST.
Lakers has the 2nd weakest in the WEST.
Looks like Portland will have a lot of problems. They have the toughest schedule in the NBA.
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2/26/2013  11:03 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Found this site on Strength of Schedule for the remaining games.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/easternsosrg.html
http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/westernsosrg.html

Knicks have the 3rd toughest schedule in the EAST and the fact that the Knicks schedule has a lot of back-to-back makes it more daunting.

The Heat have the weakest schedule in the whole NBA. The rich get richer. The Nets is tied with the Heat for weakest schedule in the NBA.


That's just referring to the remaining schedule. The Knicks have had it easy so far. You'd expect that they'd have a more challenging remaining schedule.
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2/26/2013  11:05 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Found this site on Strength of Schedule for the remaining games.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/easternsosrg.html
http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/westernsosrg.html

Knicks have the 3rd toughest schedule in the EAST and the fact that the Knicks schedule has a lot of back-to-back makes it more daunting.

The Heat have the weakest schedule in the whole NBA. The rich get richer. The Nets is tied with the Heat for weakest schedule in the NBA.


That's just referring to the remaining schedule. The Knicks have had it easy so far. You'd expect that they'd have a more challenging remaining schedule.

Yup. I guess my point is that its a good thing Knicks racked up a good total of wins because they will need it to stay afloat in the playoff landscape. It's a good way to forecast where teams will wind up in the playoff seedings.
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