Great regular season coach but a HORRIBLE playoff coach. His lack of adjustments and ISO style gets exposed in the playoffs. The hawks have underachieved GREATLY in the playoffs. It took us 7 games to beat significantly weaker competition then got blown out in 8 straight 2nd round playoff games.

When he got replaced by a mediorce coach like LD with the same exact team the next season we beat the magic in 6 games and actually won some games in the 2nd round and gave chicago a run for their money.

Yall might do alittle bit better than us with woody because yall have melo instead of joe johnson but I dont think the knicks will EVER be an east threat in the post season as long as woody is the coach. Thats how strongly I feel about him.

Everything Yungsta mentioned is correct. That very adequately sums up Woody's time in ATL.

But it seems that his time working beside D'Antoni has helped him in the offensive strategy dept. I'm always of the opinion that NBA coaches tend to get better, not worse, over time.

Woody's coaching prowess was always very similar to Mike Brown's back in Cleveland. A very capable coach whose focus on defense was so one-sided it basically came at the expense of the offense.

He obviously has much greater offensive talent now than he had here, and he seems open to ideas from guys like 'Melo and Kidd.

I believe he's due for a solid postseason run this year, so long as they avoid MIA in the 2nd round.

Knicks are one and done in my eyes. Woody is in a good spot because most of the team was mostly vets and more equipped for his Iso heavy, no adjustments style. But his predictability is and will be his down fall. Case in point, we ended up with Mike Bibby guarding Lebron James one on one repeatedly in the 4th quarter because he refused to stop switching the pick and roll. He pulled a guy that had 15 points in the 4th quarter for a guy that was 0-8 in he game because that was his starting lineup(we lost the game by the way.)

I honestly could name dozens of these boneheaded moves in the playoffs. If they mess around and play Boston in the first round they are gone.

Love Woody as a guy/person, but he wasn't the greatest coach. I could forgive his iso-heavy offense, or even his defensive schemes which would put Bibby on Dwight after a couple of screens, but I can't forgive his unwillingness to let young players earn any playing time in favor of playing veterans.

100% agree with this, it killed me inside seeing Teague's potential being wasted his first few years because he was benched in favor Bibby

By reading those quotes I hope someone can see the striking similarities, particularly the switching where "Bibby is guarding LeBron/Dwight". I had to laugh at that one because it's so true.

JamesKPolk wrote:I always said ask Hawks fans what they think of Mike Woodson when I explained why he was a mediocre at best coach. One guy on another forum actually did take the time to ask Hawks fans and here were there replies.

Great regular season coach but a HORRIBLE playoff coach. His lack of adjustments and ISO style gets exposed in the playoffs. The hawks have underachieved GREATLY in the playoffs. It took us 7 games to beat significantly weaker competition then got blown out in 8 straight 2nd round playoff games.

When he got replaced by a mediorce coach like LD with the same exact team the next season we beat the magic in 6 games and actually won some games in the 2nd round and gave chicago a run for their money.

Yall might do alittle bit better than us with woody because yall have melo instead of joe johnson but I dont think the knicks will EVER be an east threat in the post season as long as woody is the coach. Thats how strongly I feel about him.

Everything Yungsta mentioned is correct. That very adequately sums up Woody's time in ATL.

But it seems that his time working beside D'Antoni has helped him in the offensive strategy dept. I'm always of the opinion that NBA coaches tend to get better, not worse, over time.

Woody's coaching prowess was always very similar to Mike Brown's back in Cleveland. A very capable coach whose focus on defense was so one-sided it basically came at the expense of the offense.

He obviously has much greater offensive talent now than he had here, and he seems open to ideas from guys like 'Melo and Kidd.

I believe he's due for a solid postseason run this year, so long as they avoid MIA in the 2nd round.

Knicks are one and done in my eyes. Woody is in a good spot because most of the team was mostly vets and more equipped for his Iso heavy, no adjustments style. But his predictability is and will be his down fall. Case in point, we ended up with Mike Bibby guarding Lebron James one on one repeatedly in the 4th quarter because he refused to stop switching the pick and roll. He pulled a guy that had 15 points in the 4th quarter for a guy that was 0-8 in he game because that was his starting lineup(we lost the game by the way.)

I honestly could name dozens of these boneheaded moves in the playoffs. If they mess around and play Boston in the first round they are gone.

Love Woody as a guy/person, but he wasn't the greatest coach. I could forgive his iso-heavy offense, or even his defensive schemes which would put Bibby on Dwight after a couple of screens, but I can't forgive his unwillingness to let young players earn any playing time in favor of playing veterans.

100% agree with this, it killed me inside seeing Teague's potential being wasted his first few years because he was benched in favor Bibby

By reading those quotes I hope someone can see the striking similarities, particularly the switching where "Bibby is guarding LeBron/Dwight". I had to laugh at that one because it's so true.

I think these quotes are pretty spot-on. However, the first commenter boasts about beating the magic without Howard and the Bulls without Noah and rose like these are meaningful accomplishments. Make no mistake, those playoff series were gimme games, nothing to be proud of.

As a knick fan might we consider how many coaches we have had since JVG had an epiphany and walked out the door?

And how many fans thought by making a change that the in fact "change" would yield some sort of better tomorrow?

What about this: Knicks were built to not really win "NOW" but to get off to a good start because the phuch head dolan fears the Nets and the buzz that was coming and the only way beat it was to start strong.

I did harp preseason that this was my fear that dolan had installed a directive similar to my paranoid concept and if the play on the court tells a story, it is certainly playing that way.

A veteran team can jump out early but sustained is not really possible? We are deficient in so many area's.

Don't whine about injury because you can't really count on this roster to stay healthy all year long.

We got starphuched again. This is not on woodson, or MDA, Isiah (the coach), Larry, Herb, Lenny, Chaney or JVG! 8 coaches in 12 seasons. 4 GM's in 12 seasons. Get the picture? We can bitch and moan about Woodson now, as we did about MDA and the others but really its about the organization.

Jerry Buss just died and we are reminded of the wonderful run he had with that franchise. there are 29 other teams that have not been as successful as them in the last 30 years but we got to read about wonderful owner/player relationships and basically they have had only 2 GM's in that time. West and Kupchak. Kupchak went to get his masters degree while playing and when he retired from playing was assistant GM for a long long time before being promoted. Continuity. Grunny is a good dude but Dolan didn't even let Walsh pick his successor whom he wanted Mullin. Grunny was Isiahs assistant.

Im afraid my favorite team organizational process is not conducive to success.

MElo might be the "Greatest" knick since ewing and many fans find all kinds of starphuch goodness in that fact but how that translates on the court has not been all that great. 18-5 was great. Take that away and I think we are a .500 team over the last two full seasons?

Im a fan, I root for the success of this team but really unless you get caught up in some kind of Moobyistic NYKmentality circle jerk euphoric wet dream the "SOMBER" reality is more the norm than the 18-5 mirage.

Its why some fans gravitate to the youthful prospects that is the Rockets and Nuggets. Its the blueprint for OKC and its pretty good. We followed Miami's blue bring by trying to collect names. Our big three is Tyson-Melo-Amare. We improved but by how much? We did not do a very good job.

Blame Walsh? MDA? Isiah? Layden? Woodson? Grunny? Dolan?

I blame The Knicks!

holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

I didn't expect any less from you.

Anyway here are two more quotes from two different people:

Oh, Jesus. I remember trying to describe Woody in detail over on the General Board, telling people not to be fooled by his hot starts that eventually every team figures out exactly what he wants to do and that this would become even more evident and magnified in the playoffs when up against even just a decent team with nothing but a sole focus on playing against him..

*deep breath*

And I was met with retorts along the lines of "Lolz, this is New York not that joke of a team in Atlanta that will make the playoffs for the 6th year in a row at an average seeding of 5th. He had zero talent there so there's no comparison, hater."

Delusional Knicks fans, I agree that they'll never get to the 3rd round with Woodson as the coach, pretty soon they'll be exactly like "that joke of a team from Atlanta."

holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

Actually it's a fair point. The real concern is whether Woodson has been "figured out". We need to let the season play out, but we're simply calling for some adjustments. At times, Woodson's recent comments after games have been less than savory. That's all.

Solace wrote:

holfresh wrote:Woodson's record is 50-26 since taking over...If MDA did that most here would want him bronzed in front of MSG...

Actually it's a fair point. The real concern is whether Woodson has been "figured out". We need to let the season play out, but we're simply calling for some adjustments. At times, Woodson's recent comments after games have been less than savory. That's all.

Don't get me wrong, I agree adjustments has to be made...But let's not forget why we all now have high hopes for this team in the playoffs..I think what made us tough in the beginning was JKidd making the extra pass which became infectious and him knocking down the open shot that Fields missed the last three years..But in terms of figuring out I don't know about that...The team hasn't played as hard and their defense is poor...That's on the coach...