earthmansurfer wrote:JR needs to be careful right now. After provoking Lance Stephenson the other night and getting thrown out of the game, along with his poor play lately, I'm not sure they are bringing this guy back.

What J.R Smith stated may be disrespectful to that girl, but it's not a big deal. The girl is of legal age. If she wasn't? It's a completely different animal/situation. In regards to J.R Smith not coming back? That just means we'll have to land a solid 6th man off the bench (somehow-someway).

We're not in as much cap hell as some make it out to seem...

Chris Copeland: $473,604.
James White: $854,389.
Rasheed Wallace: $1,352,181.
Kurt Thomas: $1,352,181.
Renaldo Balkman: $1,675,000.
J.R Smith: $2,932,742.

Could all be off the books heading into this coming offseason. That's a good $8,640,097 off the books heading into next season. Now if both Marcus Camby and Jason Kidd retire due to old age at the end of the season? That's another $6,473,773 between Camby ($3,383,773) and Kidd ($3,090,000) combined.

Which could create for 15,113,870 off our books heading into the offseason.

Now, come next season when compared to this season/next season? Stoudemire's pay will increase + $1,731,094. Melo's pay will increase + $2,040,000, Tyson Chandler's pay will increase + $496,350. Felton's pay will increase by + $180,000, Shumpert's pay will increase + $117,240 and Novak's pay will decrease - $304,054.

That's an (overall) increase of 4,260,630 between Amar'e, Melo, Tyson, Felton and Shumpert.

So if J.R Smith doesn't return (which I hope he does return for cheap) and Kidd/Camby retires? We're looking at...

$10,853,240 in cap space with Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler and Novak on our roster. I'm pretty sure we can find really strong 6th-9th men off the bench with over 10 million in cap space to work with...

NYKMentality wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:JR needs to be careful right now. After provoking Lance Stephenson the other night and getting thrown out of the game, along with his poor play lately, I'm not sure they are bringing this guy back.

What J.R Smith stated may be disrespectful to that girl, but it's not a big deal. The girl is of legal age. If she wasn't? It's a completely different animal/situation. In regards to J.R Smith not coming back? That just means we'll have to land a solid 6th man off the bench (somehow-someway).

We're not in as much cap hell as some make it out to seem...

Chris Copeland: $473,604.
James White: $854,389.
Rasheed Wallace: $1,352,181.
Kurt Thomas: $1,352,181.
Renaldo Balkman: $1,675,000.
J.R Smith: $2,932,742.

Could all be off the books heading into this coming offseason. That's a good $8,640,097 off the books heading into next season. Now if both Marcus Camby and Jason Kidd retire due to old age at the end of the season? That's another $6,473,773 between Camby ($3,383,773) and Kidd ($3,090,000) combined.

Which could create for 15,113,870 off our books heading into the offseason.

Now, come next season when compared to this season/next season? Stoudemire's pay will increase + $1,731,094. Melo's pay will increase + $2,040,000, Tyson Chandler's pay will increase + $496,350. Felton's pay will increase by + $180,000, Shumpert's pay will increase + $117,240 and Novak's pay will decrease - $304,054.

That's an (overall) increase of 4,260,630 between Amar'e, Melo, Tyson, Felton and Shumpert.

So if J.R Smith doesn't return (which I hope he does return for cheap) and Kidd/Camby retires? We're looking at...

$10,853,240 in cap space with Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler and Novak on our roster. I'm pretty sure we can find really strong 6th-9th men off the bench with over 10 million in cap space to work with...

I agree the tweet wasn't a big deal (I actually found it funny), but the Lance Stephenson thing and ejection were a bit. Rather I mean JR needs to in general be careful.

I get the feeling that this team needs a SG who has some brains, sort of like a combo guard (e.g. a younger Kidd).

We need a consistent AND smart #2 scorer in the starting lineup. If Stat can do that then I'm all for it, but Woody needs to figure it out on offense (and defense). Briggs' post regarding that is spot on.

Regarding all of your financial statements. I agree and some of that was mentioned by me and others regarding letting Lin go, it didn't make sense as there were things we could do. We have to find a good smart #2 scorer... still. I do hope the old folk experiment pays off. Would be nice to have a championship in NY.

NYKMentality wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:JR needs to be careful right now. After provoking Lance Stephenson the other night and getting thrown out of the game, along with his poor play lately, I'm not sure they are bringing this guy back.

What J.R Smith stated may be disrespectful to that girl, but it's not a big deal. The girl is of legal age. If she wasn't? It's a completely different animal/situation. In regards to J.R Smith not coming back? That just means we'll have to land a solid 6th man off the bench (somehow-someway).

We're not in as much cap hell as some make it out to seem...

Chris Copeland: $473,604.
James White: $854,389.
Rasheed Wallace: $1,352,181.
Kurt Thomas: $1,352,181.
Renaldo Balkman: $1,675,000.
J.R Smith: $2,932,742.

Could all be off the books heading into this coming offseason. That's a good $8,640,097 off the books heading into next season. Now if both Marcus Camby and Jason Kidd retire due to old age at the end of the season? That's another $6,473,773 between Camby ($3,383,773) and Kidd ($3,090,000) combined.

Which could create for 15,113,870 off our books heading into the offseason.

Now, come next season when compared to this season/next season? Stoudemire's pay will increase + $1,731,094. Melo's pay will increase + $2,040,000, Tyson Chandler's pay will increase + $496,350. Felton's pay will increase by + $180,000, Shumpert's pay will increase + $117,240 and Novak's pay will decrease - $304,054.

That's an (overall) increase of 4,260,630 between Amar'e, Melo, Tyson, Felton and Shumpert.

So if J.R Smith doesn't return (which I hope he does return for cheap) and Kidd/Camby retires? We're looking at...

$10,853,240 in cap space with Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler and Novak on our roster. I'm pretty sure we can find really strong 6th-9th men off the bench with over 10 million in cap space to work with...

Even if they get rid of all those players wouldnt they be over the 70mil sal cap

NYKMentality wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:JR needs to be careful right now. After provoking Lance Stephenson the other night and getting thrown out of the game, along with his poor play lately, I'm not sure they are bringing this guy back.

What J.R Smith stated may be disrespectful to that girl, but it's not a big deal. The girl is of legal age. If she wasn't? It's a completely different animal/situation. In regards to J.R Smith not coming back? That just means we'll have to land a solid 6th man off the bench (somehow-someway).

We're not in as much cap hell as some make it out to seem...

Chris Copeland: $473,604.
James White: $854,389.
Rasheed Wallace: $1,352,181.
Kurt Thomas: $1,352,181.
Renaldo Balkman: $1,675,000.
J.R Smith: $2,932,742.

Could all be off the books heading into this coming offseason. That's a good $8,640,097 off the books heading into next season. Now if both Marcus Camby and Jason Kidd retire due to old age at the end of the season? That's another $6,473,773 between Camby ($3,383,773) and Kidd ($3,090,000) combined.

Which could create for 15,113,870 off our books heading into the offseason.

Now, come next season when compared to this season/next season? Stoudemire's pay will increase + $1,731,094. Melo's pay will increase + $2,040,000, Tyson Chandler's pay will increase + $496,350. Felton's pay will increase by + $180,000, Shumpert's pay will increase + $117,240 and Novak's pay will decrease - $304,054.

That's an (overall) increase of 4,260,630 between Amar'e, Melo, Tyson, Felton and Shumpert.

So if J.R Smith doesn't return (which I hope he does return for cheap) and Kidd/Camby retires? We're looking at...

$10,853,240 in cap space with Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler and Novak on our roster. I'm pretty sure we can find really strong 6th-9th men off the bench with over 10 million in cap space to work with...

Them retiring doesn't give us cap space. Our cap number for next year is $76.4M; if we don't resign anyone and Kidd and Camby retire then it would be $66.998M and that's assuming JR opts out and we don't resign him and we decline the qualifying offer for Prigioni. That number also doesn't include our 2013 1st round pick. If you add in those we're looking at over $70M in salary next year. Meanwhile, the salary cap for this year is $58M and there's no way it will increase by anywhere nearly enough that we could sign multiple free agents. Best case scenario is that we'll have the full MLE available next year as opposed to the tax-payer MLE that we had this past offseason.