Stop it. And don't you dare credit Walsh for Danilo Gallinari. All Walsh did was sign the ink. It was Mike D'Antoni who not only scouted Gallo out in Italy, but also landed Gallo as a Knick. Know the complete history of the situation before you dare give Walsh credit for Gallo. Mike D'Antoni played basketball alongside Gallo's father within the Italian leage. They played for Olimpia Milano. In 2006, Gallo was recalled by
Olimpia Milano. Mike D'Antoni is the one responsible for Gallo being a Knick, not "Donnie Walsh".
JamesKPolk wrote: He made do with what he had. Also the fact of the matter is he is the one that found Fields, Harrellson and the like in the draft.
And that's some type of accomplishment? Fields and Harrellson are both laughing stock jokes. Shouldn't have been drafted to begin with. Harrellson was a bust. Only played 6 games all of last season and has yet to play a game here in 2012-2013. His career may be over before it started. Why's Harrellson a free agent? Because he's not a good basketball player. Fields? Horrrid on a nightly basis. Has one of the worst Player Efficiency Ratings on Toronto's team. Had a couple of solid games early on as a rookie before becoming a complete bust of an NBA player. Just go back and watch our two postseasons against Boston and Miami. He was lost and confused as a player who shouldn't have been in the NBA to begin with. This season with Toronto? He's worse than most rookies. Giving the Raptors absolutely nothing. Fields and Harrellson? Laughable.
JamesKPolk wrote:He also brought in the beloved Shumpert, a pick that was dissed on draft night by nearly everyone.
I give credit to Walsh for Shumpert. Excellent talent especially before his injury. But we should've gone for the Nation's leading rebounder in Kenneth Faried over Shumpert, especially for a team that's lacked rebounding ability for many of years on end. But in regards to our fan base being against Shumpert? That's a lie. Anyone who loves ACC basketball understood Shumpert was an athletic freak with amazing defensive ability. There were threads on RealGM comparing Shumpert to Wade in regards to when Wade came out of college (talent-wise). Much of our fan base has loved Shumpert since day one. Especially as Shump was balling out during those NBA summer leagues (lockout).
JamesKPolk wrote: He brought in Stoudemire, who before the Anthony trade was dominating the league
Going after Amar'e Stoudemire is becoming a disaster. We all knew Stoudemire had a history of injuries throughout his career and we all knew Amar'e was a joke on defense. Now look, still a joke on defense while missing 53 games (as a Knick) due to injury. Not only that, but while the Miami Heat signed LeBron James, our Knicks got stuck with Amar'e Stoudemire. You know what's sad about this picture? It's not that Miami landed LeBron while we landed Amar'e, but instead the fact that Amar'e is being paid more than LeBron James. Much more. LeBron is due $57,202,500 when compared to Amar'e who's due $65,039,680 over the next 3 years. A difference of over 7 freaking million dollars in regards to Amar'e/LeBron for a player in which has not only had a history of injuries throughout his career but also a history of being a joke on defense. Walsh dropped the ball with Amar'e Stoudemire.
JamesKPolk wrote:and he put together a young, talented team with cap room before the Anthony trade.
I'll agree to disagree. Everyone talks about the Knicks being .500 over our past 28-29 games as some type of "mediocre team". Well, we're currently 32-20. That team before the trade? The definition of mediocre. Only 28-26 overall after 54 games. Not sure how current Knick fans can harp over the Knicks playing .500 ball during our previous 28-29 games when that 2010-2011 Knicks team was only 2 games above .500 after 54 games...
But yea, that team wasn't even that talented (as you say). Not sure what you're talking about there. What have guys such as Anthony Randolph and Timofey Mozgov done over the years? Please let me know since they've been "oh so talented". Better yet, where are players such as Roger Mason Jr, Bill Walker, Andy Rautins and Shawne Williams? Answer me that. Guys such as Toney Douglas and Ronny Turiaf? Not so much. Randolph, Mozgov, Mason, Walker, Williams, Douglas, Turiaf and Andy Rautins? Talented? Laughable. I'll give you Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari, but then again, they can't compare to J.R Smith and Carmelo Anthony. This myth about that pre-trade team being "talented" outside of four players in Felton, Stoudemire, Wilson and Gallo is a joke. More like a bold face lie...
JamesKPolk wrote:The Anthony trade, by the way, was still his. However forced it was on him, he still made it. So the fact that you credit some puppet who has done nothing here but sign hasbeens and scrubs to bad contracts and insult Donnie Walsh is insulting.
I'm just calling it how I see it. But will never use blind hatred (because I don't hate Walsh) when talking Knicks basketball. I give it to Donnie here. We needed an elite NBA star to keep our franchise moving forward, and he pulled the trigger while landing Carmelo Anthony. If not, Melo could be a Brooklyn Net as of right now. I give lots of credit to both Walsh and James Dolan for Melo currently being a Knick. Our greatest Knick since Patrick Ewing of his prime years. We needed this.
JamesKPolk wrote:Donnie Walsh made a mistake hiring Mike D'Antoni. It was his biggest mistake. Glen Grunwald (or was it Isiah?) hired his friend Mike Woodson. It was a mistake then and it's a mistake now. No matter how much you want to defend Grunwald that's the truth.
A mistake then and now? Wrong. We're 3rd seed of the Eastern Conference and only 1.0 games back of the two seed during coach Woodson's first (full) season as Knicks head coach. We could be on the verge of winning our Atlantic Division for the first time dating back to 1993-1994 (19 years to be exact) and we've also gone 49-26 dating back to becoming coach against Portland last season.
Outside of landing Carmelo Anthony, Glen Grunwald has been a much better G.M when compared to Walsh.
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