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mid-point KNICK observations, 10 assessments at 32-18, pro & cons: Apologies I can’t resist…
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DJMUSIC
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2/14/2013  12:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/14/2013  12:21 PM
*smiles

Yea I know I was gonna keep my trap/mouth shut
LOL

Anyhow Well where do we begin?, the obvious winning record still good correct ?
1). Our Knick team still in 1st place for needed division title (pros)

2).Our Knicks team sliding to hell CAN only improve in 2nd half from their recent collapse playing in Garden home games. (pros)

3).Now here where fun OR disaster looms, Knicks show us 1st & foremost that CELTICs, BULLs, PACERs ALL BETTER Teams without their teams best players, Although their won/loss record is below NY, these teams have the toughness & coaching which has them best suited for playoffs, competing at least.

In other words *Knicks are far from ready for playoffs and matchups here against any WILL Get NYK bounced one and done, write that in stone but lets hope not! (cons)

4).The early Knick team of 90’s Ew, Starks, Mase, Oak, Harper would play BAD horrible games such as our current Knick team did last night vs woeful RAPTORS
These less talented but tougher knicks would have WON games UGLY even it they played bad. This shows you/us Knicks are soft team from Carmelo down to
Last roster spots and even to Knicks coaches, Woodson still stresses we’re in 1st place same as he did in January. *lame (cons)

5).The early Knick team of 90’s Ewing and post Ewing or Allan Houston & Marbury era, sole thing they had in common with these knicks is excuses, excuses,excuses again!.

Such as up & downs of so called superstar Melo Anthony, & don’t believe yet that comment about missing NBA 2013 AllStar Game Sunday. These today selfish NBA team starsDo not match up to 80’s , 90s NBAers whom played with broken hands (e.g. Bernard King, L.Sprewell) , broken nose (e.g John Starks). If todays players don’t get common cold which keep them < 100% to play games then its always something else! Unless you have a groin injury OR flu, OR fracture is exception. *Otherwise you play

Whenever Camby and Sheed come back another Knick will be injured guaranteed excuses (cons)
There seems to be no homecourt anymore, I think DJ, Nalod, admins and few others here can come to garden and give current Knicks a game of basketball on their home gym since coach seems to never have these guys ready to play anymore ? what’s going on here ? (cons)

Knick PG Raymond Felton has grown negatively on DJ, tired this guy Felton whom mouth & bravado oncourt can’t keep his a_ss from getting scorched game in & out from any PG and average guards on below avg. teams such as John Lucas the 3rd, tells us fans a lot about the woes of PGs in NY and if Felton BIG mouth & technicals can decrease enough perhaps Raymond's STAT outputs in scoring /assists will be prevalent for a NBA PG and help Knicks win few games in 2nd half 2013.

I thought Felton was an upgrade defensively over Jeremy Lin, boy was I wrong !

Don’t wanna here squat about Felton's lame finger injuries (cons)
(i.e. see tape John Starks with MLB mask, full broken nose ..Scorching Utah Jazz Stockton, Malone, Hornachek & Jeff Malone)

6).OUR rival Brooklyn Nets as poor as they been without PG D.Will really balling, is 2 ½ gms back and believe they can win the division. Why not eh ? I would hate to see this cause NYK would certify a NBA playoff date vs. Celtics, Bulls or possibly even the Indy Pacers and likely would not *sniff playing Miami Heat until 2013/2014. Write that in stone if NY doesn’t win East. Div. 1st place (cons)

7).Let’s us stop the current nonsense about Melo MVP for NBA, he had that in 2012 december but today? Now I don’t think so.

He’s also in pity position to not have a 2nd legit valid dependable scorer OR number 2 star behind him, Cannot win games like that ! especially when your superstar missed what 24 shots ? and he’s hurt but still keeps shooting cause rest of roster isn’t up to par to step up offensively. (cons)

8).You all realize that the only guys on Knicks talking OR has nerve to rightfully mention “We have to play better Defense” is Amare Stoudemire, JR Smith and superstar Carmelo Anthony & though Melo played decent D’ slowing down Rudy Gay (Raptors) in Knicks horrific loss which is only sole thing MELO did good all night long, These 3 are the LEAST Guys whom will make a stop OR think about defensive play or has ability to do it to win a game ! *Interesting. Tyson Chandler is only Knick to be constantly upset during post game. Coach Woodson will be gone unless NYK wins a 2013 playoff round. (cons)

9).Guys on roster which now serves NO purpose against > .500 teams such as Steve Novacs, Jason Kidd (age), Raymond Felton. At least JKidd has excuse with age & two of 3 are starters with production impacting Knicks negatively, Shumpert gets a pass here with ACL recovery. (cons)

10).Finally if Knicks continue life with my man Carmelo Anthony in near future whether this season OR next they’d better shop & try to do major NBA deal for legit #2 star/asslstar whom can take over a game OR be on par to score, play well when superstar is off.

If the Knicks don’t plan for that then it makes sense to try and start fresh cause with MELO and roster as is, we won’t beat any NBA team next season, certainly not this yr OR anytime soon.
*minor opinion (cons).

Don't know if MELO is the issue do not believe so he is great most of the times however he is human,
but Carmelo Anthony may not be the answer either.


So sad, still so much hope in NY area for this 2012/2013 NBA season for our Knick heroes
but it isn't over yet. OR is it ?

We fans try to stay positive however where we all loved to watch this bunch
for some odd reason I can't stand to watch them in 2013 and I don't like feeling that way!
sorry..

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Nalod
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2/14/2013  2:02 PM

As a somberite who went into the season with a 52 win objective but lowered to 48 when Amare was to miss all those games the team has been a pleasent suprise.

When the homers take for granted an early start and extropolate the early success into the season, then are now dismayed by the current play which is not awful, just not quite the elite play we would have hoped, then we read about magical trades and how woodson is not getting it done.

The homers turn into apologists and the sombers get even grouchier.

BTW, amazing that NYKMentality just goes away after losses but "has to laugh" when they win!

Seasons have ups and downs. This team is not a great one but there are few in the NBA so its possible we will still shine when the season is over.

As for hindsight lamenting? Well its easy at times.

This team is old and there is no way around that. They have to be healthy to make a big run in the playoffs.

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2/14/2013  2:08 PM
Knicks are good, they just arent THAT good. Its a fun team to watch and they can win any game any night, but they arent an elite team. They are an upper middle playoff team. 2-4 seed in a weak conference, lower if it was loaded as the West if right now.

none of this is bad, except some folks as myself wonder why we traded our future for a team that doesnt have much of one.

As I have said 1000 times I hope to be wrong, but generally what you see is what you have, and the more you see the more you know. The more you know the more that is there. When there is a lot there you have something. If there isnt much there then you dont. Its as simple as that.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/14/2013  2:18 PM
The record speaks for itself. Early success and now about .500 for some time.

The trend is not bad, just not elite!

We watch because the trend turn on a dime. Good or bad!

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2/14/2013  2:26 PM
Team is primed for a strong finish, instead of being out the playoffs and hoping for the division, the knicks already have it.

No reason to harp on the old/injured players, you know they have two speeds and the second half is when older guys like to wake up. See kidd, Stat, Wallace, Camby, Tyson. See Monster Melo last year.

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DJMUSIC
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2/14/2013  2:36 PM
fishmike wrote:Knicks are good, they just arent THAT good. Its a fun team to watch and they can win any game any night, but they arent an elite team. They are an upper middle playoff team. 2-4 seed in a weak conference, lower if it was loaded as the West if right now.

none of this is bad, except some folks as myself wonder why we traded our future for a team that doesnt have much of one.

As I have said 1000 times I hope to be wrong, but generally what you see is what you have, and the more you see the more you know. The more you know the more that is there. When there is a lot there you have something. If there isnt much there then you dont. Its as simple as that.


Right
Perhaps Fish says it best.. there isnt as much there OR Knicks are good but not that good
*agree

However once ny unsuccessful ex-knick coach grouchy Larry Brown says 1 thing which i do truly exist in all sports even nba which is you gotta play the game/your profession the right way. I think coach woodson done great & Melo improved in few areas to make nyk better with a winning record & 1st place today.

But this team as did MDA teams, as did Marbury teams (Wilkens, LBrown) the players dont play the right way.
The basics in passing, talking on D & offense, F/Ts.. the hustle effort plays, no one gets outside their comfort zone to work as a team thus Ny as historically very predictable, very limited and not enought fight & bite to being pushed around by foes whom get physical.

All adds up to bad basketball, poor coaching adjustments such as failures to use bench (KT, Copeland, J.Whie) to a game where regulars aren't executing nothing beside technical fouls Or gripes to officials.

All this seem fine with the all of a sudden simple Mike Woodson whose "i dont know" answers after bad losses to poor teams makes you wonder, if coach aint too hot about losing well its players will be the same too!

Just imagine the 3rd best coach in nba history OR any sports Greg Popovich can take bunch of nobodys, leaves stars home OR has superstars (1) injured & still go play nba game and kick good teams as_s cause they play & coach the right way.

We dont have that in NY & its a downfall for Knicks fortunes the team had earlier.

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mid-point KNICK observations, 10 assessments at 32-18, pro & cons: Apologies I can’t resist…

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