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2/11/2013  2:54 PM
We all know that is a big need for the Knicks. With the geriatric bigs holding the fort. How about this old BRIGGS favorite back in the day. Hassan Whiteside.

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2012/12/29/3810252/hassan-whiteside-is-silencing-his-doubters-with-recent-strong-play

Hassan Whiteside Is Silencing His Doubters With Recent Strong Play
By Ryan Ripley on Dec 29, 11:00a
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Kyle Terada-US PRESSWIRE
Hassan Whiteside, has made an immediate impact on the Sioux Falls Skyforce roster by stuffing the stat sheet in limited minutes. Can his renewed focus and dedication get him another chance to wear an NBA jersey?

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Hassan Whiteside has as image problem. In 2010, the 7-footer was a 20-year-old freshman at Marshall and relatively unknown to most of the NBA scouts. By the end of that season, Whiteside led the NCAA in blocked shots with 182 swats, earning him the C-USA Defensive Player of the Year award.

During this transitional time, scouts scrutinized Whiteside's work ethic, basketball IQ, and overall ability to play within a complicated NBA system.

Despite the questions, his 13 points, 9 rebounds, and 5 blocked shots per game in college spoke volumes for his abilities on the court. Due to this new attention, Whiteside opted to use the one-and-done rule to enter the 2010 NBA Draft. He was selected in the second round by the Sacramento Kings.

Over the course of the next two seasons in The Association, Whiteside appeared in 19 games. He averaged 1.5 points and 2 rebounds through 6 minutes per contest.

During those two seasons, Whiteside was assigned to multiple stints with the Kings' NBA D-League affiliate - the Reno Bighorns. Last season as a Bighorn, Whiteside averaged 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 blocked shots in 19 minutes per game.

Questions about basketball IQ swirled again, yet teams were drawn to Whiteside's obvious physical abilities. His 7'7" wingspan makes him an ideal shot blocker, rebounder, and defensive weapon in the paint.

On the offensive end of the floor, he has great feel around the rim and finishes strong. Whiteside is also a perimeter threat who can knock down the occasional shot from behind the arc and is accurate from mid-range as well.

These abilities led to looks from the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Miami Heat in their respective training camps prior to this season. Whiteside was eventually selected from the D-League player pool by the Sioux Falls Skyforce in anticipation of Jarvis Varnado receiving a NBA call-up.

In his first four games with Sioux Falls, Whiteside has averaged 13 points, 9 rebound, and 2 blocks in 17 minutes per game. He's sporting a ridiculous PER of 34.09, and has made 66% of his shots thus far.

Most importantly, Whiteside has looked more alert on the defensive end of the floor. His presence in the paint made a noticeable different during his Christmas Day efforts against Iowa. During that game, he logged 2 steals and 3 blocked shots. He also added 17 points and 15 rebounds in 23 minutes played.

On the offense, the big man is playing his way into Coach Joel Abelson's system. He does not look lost like past pundits have claimed.

Whiteside's past questions will be hard to shake. However, Sioux Falls seems to be reaping the early rewards of objectively evaluating his talent and not falling for perceptions.

This weekend will be a true test for Whiteside, as Sioux Falls plays two games against Maine. Fab Melo is currently on assignment from the Celtics and has been putting up triple double performances in recent contests as member of the Red Claws.

We need a young big and I think this 7 footer will do the job.

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2/11/2013  2:58 PM
This was a "Briggs pick"......

We are in "win now" mode so I wonder if this means any consideration for a "Ute".

Not sure you put this kid in the playoff mix.

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2/11/2013  3:59 PM
Yes. He can definitely sit next to, or on top of Copeland at the far end of the Woody doghouse.

NBDL projects halfway through the season on a team built on aged seniority. Did we suddenly get a new GM?

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2/11/2013  4:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2013  4:06 PM
Why does the Knicks now need a PF or Center??..Woody is now trying to manage Tyson and Amare's time on the court so they don't get in each others way...Only guy that makes sense is Sheed who can stretch the defense and can play in and out...
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2/11/2013  5:04 PM
I always thought he had great upside and was surprised he lasted to the 2nd round. He could be a very good backup big someday.
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2/11/2013  5:08 PM
Josh Boone returned from overseas and was playing in the d-l. I was hoping the Knicks would sign him but apparently he is out for the season now.
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2/11/2013  9:25 PM
holfresh wrote:Why does the Knicks now need a PF or Center??..Woody is now trying to manage Tyson and Amare's time on the court so they don't get in each others way...Only guy that makes sense is Sheed who can stretch the defense and can play in and out...

Not looking to replace them but more as their backup. Knicks can't rely on Camby, KT and Sheed for the long haul. This would be a low risk high reward type move.

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2/11/2013  9:34 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
holfresh wrote:Why does the Knicks now need a PF or Center??..Woody is now trying to manage Tyson and Amare's time on the court so they don't get in each others way...Only guy that makes sense is Sheed who can stretch the defense and can play in and out...

Not looking to replace them but more as their backup. Knicks can't rely on Camby, KT and Sheed for the long haul. This would be a low risk high reward type move.

Very Good Point. Sheed and Camby are far too injury prone so we need another big man whi can rebound
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2/11/2013  10:23 PM
I would pick up a guard before going for power forward/center, especially since our perimter defense is so bad. It so frustrating watching Prigonni pass on open looks that he should shoot.
Bring back dee-fense
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2/11/2013  10:36 PM
JesseDark wrote:I would pick up a guard before going for power forward/center, especially since our perimter defense is so bad. It so frustrating watching Prigonni pass on open looks that he should shoot.

Really hard to get a PG...even a backup PG. I think Pablo will be fine. It will be harder if a new backup PG comes in. Backup PF/C is the easiest position to fill.

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2/11/2013  10:43 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
holfresh wrote:Why does the Knicks now need a PF or Center??..Woody is now trying to manage Tyson and Amare's time on the court so they don't get in each others way...Only guy that makes sense is Sheed who can stretch the defense and can play in and out...

Not looking to replace them but more as their backup. Knicks can't rely on Camby, KT and Sheed for the long haul. This would be a low risk high reward type move.

Very Good Point. Sheed and Camby are far too injury prone so we need another big man whi can rebound
Also if you do bring in a young big like Whiteside he gets a great education from the vets. Sheed, Camby, Thomas and Tyson have a lot of experience and Cope is always crediting the vets. Not sure that a guy like Whiteside fits on a vet team. I think the Knicks would be better suited to go after a guy with experience but Whiteside might be worth a look.
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2/12/2013  12:46 AM
we definetly need something. I mean than goodness for our great start because since mid december we have been very inconsistent. And lets be honest we went from having one of best defenses in the first month and a half to now having one of the worst
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2/12/2013  9:35 AM
Yeah we definitely need to do anything.
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2/12/2013  9:53 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
holfresh wrote:Why does the Knicks now need a PF or Center??..Woody is now trying to manage Tyson and Amare's time on the court so they don't get in each others way...Only guy that makes sense is Sheed who can stretch the defense and can play in and out...

Not looking to replace them but more as their backup. Knicks can't rely on Camby, KT and Sheed for the long haul. This would be a low risk high reward type move.

Very Good Point. Sheed and Camby are far too injury prone so we need another big man whi can rebound
Also if you do bring in a young big like Whiteside he gets a great education from the vets. Sheed, Camby, Thomas and Tyson have a lot of experience and Cope is always crediting the vets. Not sure that a guy like Whiteside fits on a vet team. I think the Knicks would be better suited to go after a guy with experience but Whiteside might be worth a look.
if we were smart we would have balanced a bit and added some prospects instead of all broken down guys. Some young legs would be nice. Sadly the only trade options we have revolve around Shumpert.
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2/12/2013  9:05 PM
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Among teams that have internally discussed Amundson are the Lakers, Knicks and Sixers, source says.

Anyone a fan of this move if it were to happen?

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2/12/2013  9:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2013  9:15 PM
He would add some toughness. Nearly averages a block a game in only 13mins for his career. Remember him killing us on the boards last year. Big time hustle player
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2/12/2013  9:19 PM
Randolph is playing for the Nuggets and doesn't look bad.
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2/12/2013  9:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Randolph is playing for the Nuggets and doesn't look bad.

He is filling up the stat sheet tonight. I'd glady take him back. Always reminded me of a young Camby if only he got his head screwed on straight

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2/13/2013  4:01 AM
For some reason coaches seem to refuse to play Anthony Randolph. It hasn't only been one coach either, it's been of multiple(s). I have a strong feeling he lacks the overall heart needed in order to compete with elite talents on a nightly basis. The talent is there, the potential is there, but the minutes aren't. Sounds like a personal problem in regards to AR and not sure if he'll overcome whatever's been holding him back. Lack of drive? Lack of love for the game? Lack of heart when put into a fight? What's the deal with coaches not wanting to play this kid...
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2/13/2013  7:48 AM
NYKMentality wrote:For some reason coaches seem to refuse to play Anthony Randolph. It hasn't only been one coach either, it's been of multiple(s). I have a strong feeling he lacks the overall heart needed in order to compete with elite talents on a nightly basis. The talent is there, the potential is there, but the minutes aren't. Sounds like a personal problem in regards to AR and not sure if he'll overcome whatever's been holding him back. Lack of drive? Lack of love for the game? Lack of heart when put into a fight? What's the deal with coaches not wanting to play this kid...

no... only MDA ruined him. Arent you kind of the leader of the former Knicks all suck ass and that suckiness must be documented daily club?

Whiteside would be good. There is no reason not to have 3 young guys at the end of the bench working to get better in the NBA.

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