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DJMUSIC
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2/10/2013  7:33 PM
Here ya go:
Dec. 15 NYK 103 Cavs 102 home win
Dec. 17 Rockets 109 NYK 96 home loss
Dec. 19 NYK 100 Nets 86 home win
Dec. 21 Bulls 110 NYK 106 home loss
Dec. 23 NYK 94 Wolves 91 home win
Dec. 25 Lakers 100 NYK 94 road loss
Dec. 26 NYK 99 Suns 97 road win
Dec. 28 Kings 106 NYK 105 road loss
Jan. 1 Blazers 105 NYK 100 home loss
Jan. 3 NYK 100 Spurs 83 home win
Jan. 5 NYK 114 Magic 106 road win
Jan. 7 Celtics 102 NYK 96 home loss
Jan. 10 Pacers 81 NYK 76 road loss
Jan. 11 Bulls 108 NYK 101 home loss
Jan. 13 NYK 100 Hornets 87 home win
Jan. 17 NYK 102 Pistons 87 road win
Jan. 21 Nets 88 NYK 85 home loss
Jan. 24 NYK 89 Celtics 86 road win
Jan. 26 76ers 97 NYK 80 road loss
Jan. 27 NYK 106 Hawks 104 home win
Jan. 30 NYK 113 Magic 97 home win
Feb. 1 NYK 96 Bucks 86 home win
Feb. 2 NYK 120 Kings 81 home win
Feb. 4 NYK 99 Pistons 85 home win
Feb. 6 Wizards 106 NYK 95 road loss
Feb. 8 NYK 100 Wolves 94 road win
Feb. 10 LAC 102 NYK 88 home loss

NY Knickerbockers record Dec. 15 thru Feb. 10 2013
15-12
15 wins
12 losses (5 wins 7 losses), a stellar 5 wins OR 7 loses of last 12 games played at Da' Garden doesnt sound like a leading team
to this knick fan.

Its wonderful the Knicks has a good /decent road record. 5-7 at home isn't going to bode well especially now rest of NBA GOOD teams
can come to your gym rap you on the chin & unless 3's are going down OR your playing D' Knicks are never in the game OR always in
rear hiney of the visitors in Da Garden.

However the Knicks once again showing symptoms of the Brooklyn Nets,
when the elite BIG boyz NBA teams are ready to ball .. Knickerbockers aren't up for the challenges

Knicks are giving up way to many areas of the game without taking away a single damn thing the other team is trying to do
in their game plan.

Once again Mike Woodson is gonna spend times preaching and praising the other team Knick opponent this afternoon the Clipper-less among the new elite teams. *Excuses, excuses.

I dont mind losing its how Knicks are losing, simply inept Or maybe simply Knicks aren't a good home team anymore.

Tell me something
when was last Knickerbocker game eh ? that Knicks really played hard and lost
and you'd say *wow Our guys played hard and with some guts and nearly did this OR that but came a little short.

Which game is that eh ? Don't touch any of those BULLs games above nor the games against Lakers (road) or Nets (msg)
both Brooklyn and Lakers were having issues when we played them.

Maybe ? the Blazer loss at home, was last time NY played a game hard with some guts

Today..
We all wonder which Knicks team is going to show up at their own gym MADISON SQ Garden for a full 4 quarters of basketball.

FACT. Knicks were lucky to beat CAVs at MSG by 1pt, in the Kylie Irving show. NYK lucky to beat Minn. at their gym again few wks later.
2 bad teams, then the elite HAWKs lucky to escape with win their.

These days of 2013 Knickerbockers ain't so lucky.

Knicks point guards getting beat,
Knicks bigs getting beat on boards and invisible defense.
Knicks shooting is only thing that wins them games from December 2012 thru today Feb. 10 2013
Knicks Bench is a joke & rest of NBA is on to their flaws.

All in all equates to mediocre team play & mediocre coaching from any Adjustments Mike Woodson can make
a 40 yr. Grant Hill whom got dusted off with a broom & he plays Carmelo Anthony today & that was the rest of that
Game, match & set and OVER !

Amazing! shooooots

This is nonsense leading up to AllStar NBA break. Knicks are waiting for their bigs Camby + Sheed combined
what 73 or 74 yrs of ages to come back and rescue Knicks to give them some physical presence.

Knicks right now have NO IDENTITY on what Coach Michael Woodson wants to do I don't like it, their record isn't impressive at this point. They will be one & done in playoffs, fans will be disappointed before all the 2013 playoff fun properly starts..

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2/10/2013  7:37 PM
Well Done. Dec. 15 exactly went the Defense went south and has yet to turn the corner on Feb 10


Defense is ranked 15th in the league

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2/10/2013  8:10 PM
The Knicks always have injuries to fall back on. They have been making excuses all year long and so have the fans for the Knicks. The defense has been getting worse and worse. The losing is mounting and everyone knows that home field plays a major role in the playoffs and the KNicks don't seem interested in going after the best record. I think Woodson always mentions this when asked we're trying to win our division, which leads me to beileve that he only cares for the division and best record is not an agenda of the coach or the players. This team has major flaws and some of the flaws can be attributed to the coach always playing undersized.

Majic johnson, today said that the Knicks are a team that is going the wrong way, they are playing worse and worse. Thats why trade rumors have come into play and players need comforting now that the talks have started. Grunwald knows whats going on and moves need to be made to get this team righted. The team is relying on the older players to pull them trough and they can only do so much, they are past their prime and what ever little they give is a plus. To expect them to turn the clock once the playoffs start is a joke, its not going to happen. Bibby didn't turn the clock, Davis didn't do it. I don't expect this group to do it either.

I think the Knicks need a youth infusion at PG and at SG. The current players they have right now are constantly getting beat by the opposing guards, they lack quickness on the defensive end. The Knicks have to many players with to many flaws. Counting on players like JR Smith a streaky player, Felton a decent back up PG and a recovering Shumpert, and an Aging Kidd to hold down the defensive fort and offense is tough. A good move might be needed to get the KNicks a little younger and quicker on the defensive side of the ball.

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2/10/2013  8:18 PM
A little too late for infusion of youth. We traded all youth for veteranship now gotta deal with the consequences
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2/10/2013  8:37 PM
Well done DJMUSIC!...i do agree that this team is overated but im not counting them out...i dont think this yr is the yr but we hv improved...i think we just need to improve the quality of the depth...but youre right were not there yet
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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2/10/2013  9:11 PM
callmened wrote:Well done DJMUSIC!...i do agree that this team is overated but im not counting them out...i dont think this yr is the yr but we hv improved...i think we just need to improve the quality of the depth...but youre right were not there yet


well said about the depth.

Sometimes its not bad (bench) and other times its horrible

I'm sorry if I am overkill with this but like I mentioned its the manner the Knicks lose
a loss is a loss

But at home MSG you're getting the feeling its no home court advantage for Knickerbockers again regardless of whom they play
& regardless of stealth record built earlier in season 2012 fall.

They are getting on my nerves with same mistakes, same big shot dependency to win game
all same sins on perimeter defense lacking, all in all I wont give up on them but will not be surprise to see them maybe win 1 gm
or 2 then get bounced from NBA playoffs 2013 regardless of the seeding or whom they play.

Yep its correct if they play BUCKs now at spot #7 vs 2 Knicks should be a lock
but what cost ? outscoring the young Milwaukee team in playoff roung to win ? and advance to get bounced by better teams

I can see why coach Woodson got bounced by HAWKS after impressive resume winning

He is hard on little things with players in games but soft on BIGGER things in the larger picture
he is having hard time adjusting to game time in game adjustments and I'm annnoyed as hell the way Woodson praises all these
NBA foes whom whipped the knicks you'd think from coach Woody the Knicks were playing the 60's-70s Celtics, 90's Bulls or Showtime
Lakers.

I hate it, he got to bench folks whom aint stepping up cause it will cost him his job in near future
you lose to a Clipper team with dignity not going away like the Knicks did in 4th qtr. with no fight OR might

Quitters
Like I lament here you punch Knicks in face few times late in game & you'll get them. NO Anger from this easy bunch of $high priced
Knicks
And DJ don't like it one bit! . If I was ticket holder and sat behind Knick bench I'd be guy heckling poor play and
be thrown out of game! *LOL

Too much teeth too much smiles too much We'll be OK.
sounds familiar eh ? like Coach D'antoni teams at least coach MDA teams early in his success got out 1st & sometimes 2d rounds of
nba playoffs something NY hasnt dont in ages.

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2/11/2013  4:46 AM
"The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision."

This team can drive the most sane fan completely crazy. And they have nobody else to blame but themselves.

They have the talent right now to win the games they have lost since that december date, yet they seem to be complacent just to be where they are, seem ready to coast a .500 record the rest of the season and get to the playoffs.

The playoffs!

Oh! That promised land this team won the rights to be in because of their magical start of the season! Not to mention a championahip, but let's not get that ahead, right?

Bah! This team has enough talent to win,get to the playoff as a pretty high seed and even win a title. Yet they are sleeping in the laurels and the second half of the season is so much more competitive they could be in for a rude awakening if they don't wake up from this illogical sleep they are.

You know, you don't have to play perfect. Just play good defense. I can assure you if we had up to this point, we'd have a better record than Miami. But this team, Woody included, have beel complacent being a disappointment since mid december.

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2/11/2013  6:10 AM
They do look like an ordinary team right now. They've gone 14-12 over the past 26 games (8-6 with our savior Felton and 6-6 without him). Their opponents' winning % in that stretch is .453.
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2/11/2013  6:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2013  6:45 AM
I wouldn't say we "stink" right now.

We're first place of our Atlantic Division by 4.0 games ala something in which we haven't won dating back to 1993-1994 (19 years).

Second place of the entire Eastern Conference. Only behind Miami.

5th strongest record in all of basketball. Only behind SA, OKC, MIA and LAC.

Only 6 teams outside of our Knicks have gone at least 7-3 during their past 10 games. Denver (9-1). Spurs (9-1). Miami (8-2). OKC (7-3). Boston (7-3). Lakers (7-3).

To say that we "stink" right now after all of the above is a classic example of an overreaction.

7-3 during our last 10 and/or 6-2 during our last 8.

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2/11/2013  6:49 AM
What's the opponents' winning percentage in that 10 game stretch? 6 of those 10 games were at home too.
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2/11/2013  6:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2013  6:55 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:What's the opponents' winning percentage in that 10 game stretch? 6 of those 10 games were at home too.

It doesn't matter. You can only play/beat who the schedule gives you. And we went 7-3 during our past 10 games, despite the fact that both Stoudemire and Shumpert are still getting their feet wet. And we only allowed an average of 93.8 points per game during those 10 games.

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2/11/2013  6:57 AM
Vmart wrote: This team has major flaws and some of the flaws can be attributed to the coach always playing undersized.

Majic johnson, today said that the Knicks are a team that is going the wrong way, they are playing worse and worse. Thats why trade rumors have come into play and players need comforting now that the talks have started. Grunwald knows whats going on and moves need to be made to get this team righted. The team is relying on the older players to pull them trough and they can only do so much, they are past their prime and what ever little they give is a plus. To expect them to turn the clock once the playoffs start is a joke, its not going to happen. Bibby didn't turn the clock, Davis didn't do it. I don't expect this group to do it either.

We need Camby and Sheed, you can't teach height. This team plays totally different when those guys are in the mix.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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2/11/2013  7:02 AM
NYKMentality wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's the opponents' winning percentage in that 10 game stretch? 6 of those 10 games were at home too.

It doesn't matter. You can only play/beat who the schedule gives you. And we went 7-3 during our past 10 games, despite the fact that both Stoudemire and Shumpert are still getting their feet wet. And we only allowed an average of 93.8 points per game during those 10 games.

Yea, if only Amar'e's and Shump's feet were wet,

Next time, with wet feet, Knicks blow CLippers out

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2/11/2013  7:02 AM
The scariest part of this mess is that this team is built to win now, this is it, this is what the Donnie Walsh house cleaning was all about and now we are back to the middle of the swamps
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2/11/2013  7:35 AM
this team hasnt been the same since mid december. That was when the defense got extremely lazy. Cant blame injuries since we were missing a ton of guys and we were still winning
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2/11/2013  7:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2013  7:46 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:Here ya go:
Dec. 15 NYK 103 Cavs 102 home win
Dec. 17 Rockets 109 NYK 96 home loss
Dec. 19 NYK 100 Nets 86 home win
Dec. 21 Bulls 110 NYK 106 home loss
Dec. 23 NYK 94 Wolves 91 home win
Dec. 25 Lakers 100 NYK 94 road loss
Dec. 26 NYK 99 Suns 97 road win
Dec. 28 Kings 106 NYK 105 road loss
Jan. 1 Blazers 105 NYK 100 home loss
Jan. 3 NYK 100 Spurs 83 home win
Jan. 5 NYK 114 Magic 106 road win
Jan. 7 Celtics 102 NYK 96 home loss
Jan. 10 Pacers 81 NYK 76 road loss
Jan. 11 Bulls 108 NYK 101 home loss
Jan. 13 NYK 100 Hornets 87 home win
Jan. 17 NYK 102 Pistons 87 road win
Jan. 21 Nets 88 NYK 85 home loss
Jan. 24 NYK 89 Celtics 86 road win
Jan. 26 76ers 97 NYK 80 road loss
Jan. 27 NYK 106 Hawks 104 home win
Jan. 30 NYK 113 Magic 97 home win
Feb. 1 NYK 96 Bucks 86 home win
Feb. 2 NYK 120 Kings 81 home win
Feb. 4 NYK 99 Pistons 85 home win
Feb. 6 Wizards 106 NYK 95 road loss
Feb. 8 NYK 100 Wolves 94 road win
Feb. 10 LAC 102 NYK 88 home loss

NY Knickerbockers record Dec. 15 thru Feb. 10 2013
15-12
15 wins
12 losses (5 wins 7 losses), a stellar 5 wins OR 7 loses of last 12 games played at Da' Garden doesnt sound like a leading team
to this knick fan.

Its wonderful the Knicks has a good /decent road record. 5-7 at home isn't going to bode well especially now rest of NBA GOOD teams
can come to your gym rap you on the chin & unless 3's are going down OR your playing D' Knicks are never in the game OR always in
rear hiney of the visitors in Da Garden.

However the Knicks once again showing symptoms of the Brooklyn Nets,
when the elite BIG boyz NBA teams are ready to ball .. Knickerbockers aren't up for the challenges

Knicks are giving up way to many areas of the game without taking away a single damn thing the other team is trying to do
in their game plan.

Once again Mike Woodson is gonna spend times preaching and praising the other team Knick opponent this afternoon the Clipper-less among the new elite teams. *Excuses, excuses.

I dont mind losing its how Knicks are losing, simply inept Or maybe simply Knicks aren't a good home team anymore.

Tell me something
when was last Knickerbocker game eh ? that Knicks really played hard and lost
and you'd say *wow Our guys played hard and with some guts and nearly did this OR that but came a little short.

Which game is that eh ? Don't touch any of those BULLs games above nor the games against Lakers (road) or Nets (msg)
both Brooklyn and Lakers were having issues when we played them.

Maybe ? the Blazer loss at home, was last time NY played a game hard with some guts

Today..
We all wonder which Knicks team is going to show up at their own gym MADISON SQ Garden for a full 4 quarters of basketball.

FACT. Knicks were lucky to beat CAVs at MSG by 1pt, in the Kylie Irving show. NYK lucky to beat Minn. at their gym again few wks later.
2 bad teams, then the elite HAWKs lucky to escape with win their.

These days of 2013 Knickerbockers ain't so lucky.

Knicks point guards getting beat,
Knicks bigs getting beat on boards and invisible defense.
Knicks shooting is only thing that wins them games from December 2012 thru today Feb. 10 2013
Knicks Bench is a joke & rest of NBA is on to their flaws.

All in all equates to mediocre team play & mediocre coaching from any Adjustments Mike Woodson can make
a 40 yr. Grant Hill whom got dusted off with a broom & he plays Carmelo Anthony today & that was the rest of that
Game, match & set and OVER !

Amazing! shooooots

This is nonsense leading up to AllStar NBA break. Knicks are waiting for their bigs Camby + Sheed combined
what 73 or 74 yrs of ages to come back and rescue Knicks to give them some physical presence.

Knicks right now have NO IDENTITY on what Coach Michael Woodson wants to do I don't like it, their record isn't impressive at this point. They will be one & done in playoffs, fans will be disappointed before all the 2013 playoff fun properly starts..

This post makes no sense== unless their is a reason to fix the team of which you have none. Maybe we can wait and trade Shumpert for Durant and a first This certainly is a good team--but its not a win now championship team

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2/11/2013  8:35 AM
This team can only be fixed by itself. When they play at their best, we can blow out Miami, which is saying a lot.

We have what is necessary in terms of personnel. Maybe explore bringing Kenyon Martin to the team if he is still available.

But even so, we have what we need in terms of players.

Question is:

Can Woody bring accountability back to this team? Can he make them play D again?

When you see the issue as it is, everybody looks bad, but Woody looks the worst because its all about coaching

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2/11/2013  9:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2013  9:05 AM
Knicksfan wrote:This team can only be fixed by itself. When they play at their best, we can blow out Miami, which is saying a lot.

We have what is necessary in terms of personnel. Maybe explore bringing Kenyon Martin to the team if he is still available.

But even so, we have what we need in terms of players.

Question is:

Can Woody bring accountability back to this team? Can he make them play D again?

When you see the issue as it is, everybody looks bad, but Woody looks the worst because its all about coaching

J kidd was a big reason why this club was really good and hes shot--Shumpert is not even an upgrade to Brewer and Tyson cant score unless force fed. We dont have enough scoring

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2/11/2013  9:48 AM
I sure miss not making the playoffs and wondering what we were going to do with all that cap space.

And draft picks.... I miss draft picks...

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2/11/2013  10:04 AM
because we beat the heat twice does not mean its automatic going forward..

The team is good, not great. They are falling into what most people hoped they could be a mid 50 win team and perhaps demonstrate an ability to make it to ECF's.

The east is week which makes us look good. Melo is having a great season and getting a lot of deserved attention, and there are not great teams in teh east.

We are not trending as a super hot elite team and have not for some time.

Its not a disaster, but after a hot start and beating Miami and the Spurs fans have high expectations now.

Personally this team is much better than I thought they were going to be but they are trending to where I first expected.

Nice thing is this team has the ability to win, and can go deep in teh playoffs.

There is hope. This is new to many of us.

Knickerbockers stink right now, Gonna run my mouth about it... since NYK in discussion among elite teams

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