sidsanders wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Opposing team's FG% this season

1) Pacers 41.9
2) OKC 43.1
3) Chicago 43.3
4) Clippers 43.5
5) the Wizards??? 43.7
6) Miami 43.8
7) Warriors 43.9
8) Pistons 44.1
9) Spurs 44.1
10) Celtics 44.2

18) Knicks 45.7

Dunno if any NBA champion in the last decade has been NOT a top 10 defense let alone below average

I think thye Knicks got a little arrogant after the first month. November we played like a champion on both ends of the court. But then we started to get lazy and the effort that was there is November is gone

I'm really hoping all this media hype about Rasheed being the true heart and soul of this team is true.

Rasheed will come back and we'll defend like we did when he was playing. Keep repeating this and it will become true.

the return of the "savior" hope: baron davis style.

gotta hope the hype is wrong -- these guys can make due regardless of wallace/camby.

There was a reason we added Sheed and Camby. You really do need bigs that are top tier defensive players and rebounders. You can't get smarter than Sheed and Camby in terms of defense at the basket. We've missed their presence. It's not a cure all, but they would make a difference.

Sheed talks on D and gets guys where they need to be and he's active for an old guy. Tyson has had far too many nights where he's not as aggressive as he was last year. Having Sheed would help a lot.

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:JR and Felton are 2 awesome geniuses

And u arrive at that how?

good point! That can't be possible since they are idiots.

U live in a nice cocoon ripping all players..let me know when u support any one else outside of Brewer and Novak's "nice defensive plays"..

mrknickshot is a good fan. he doesnt rip everyone. Only the guys who deserve it. Im a big knick fan but i have no problem calling out guys who lack effort

exactly.

Hotfresh will go down with the bad defensive and low efficient players.

Watching TV and not seeing the game again??

Uh ... and what draws your scatter brain to this conclusion?

Let me help you out just this one time...What teams are doing is running Felton off the high screen and roll and no one else is switching...But u only seeing Felton's man open...U call it bad defense right??..Watch the whole game..

uh ... let me fill you in son, FELTON SUCKS ON OFFENSE!! Case closed.

You can watch your TV upside down or sideways ... it won't change. He is an awful defender.

Yet u find time to compliment Nash and Novak's defense???..Im not your son!!!

I have never said that Novak is a good defender, son. I just said that he was playing better at some point. You are cute though.

Felton, Novak, Copeland, Stat and Kidd are all AWFUL defenders! All of them. Tyson, JR, Priggy and Melo are ok. Put that in your saved quoted of mine.

gunsnewing wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:This is why people criticize the team against the Wizards or Twolves. Because in the playoffs you're playing higher caliber clubs like the Clippers and you can't play the way we've been playing and expect to go anywhere.

Bingo!

I second that bingo

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:JR and Felton are 2 awesome geniuses

And u arrive at that how?

good point! That can't be possible since they are idiots.

U live in a nice cocoon ripping all players..let me know when u support any one else outside of Brewer and Novak's "nice defensive plays"..

mrknickshot is a good fan. he doesnt rip everyone. Only the guys who deserve it. Im a big knick fan but i have no problem calling out guys who lack effort

exactly.

Hotfresh will go down with the bad defensive and low efficient players.

Watching TV and not seeing the game again??

Uh ... and what draws your scatter brain to this conclusion?

Let me help you out just this one time...What teams are doing is running Felton off the high screen and roll and no one else is switching...But u only seeing Felton's man open...U call it bad defense right??..Watch the whole game..

uh ... let me fill you in son, FELTON SUCKS ON OFFENSE!! Case closed.

You can watch your TV upside down or sideways ... it won't change. He is an awful defender.

Yet u find time to compliment Nash and Novak's defense???..Im not your son!!!

I have never said that Novak is a good defender, son. I just said that he was playing better at some point. You are cute though.

Felton, Novak, Copeland, Stat and Kidd are all AWFUL defenders! All of them. Tyson, JR, Priggy and Melo are ok. Put that in your saved quoted of mine.

Smart guy...U still longing for DWill instead of Melo?

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:JR and Felton are 2 awesome geniuses

And u arrive at that how?

good point! That can't be possible since they are idiots.

U live in a nice cocoon ripping all players..let me know when u support any one else outside of Brewer and Novak's "nice defensive plays"..

mrknickshot is a good fan. he doesnt rip everyone. Only the guys who deserve it. Im a big knick fan but i have no problem calling out guys who lack effort

exactly.

Hotfresh will go down with the bad defensive and low efficient players.

I respect fans like you. Obviously you want the Knicks to win BUT you also hold them account

I have to give Knickshot credit for calling out Tyson early on. I didnt agree with him at first but im seeing it now. I dont know if its effort or what...

Knicksshot is like all the guys who leave the forum and come back under a new name...He rips everyone and never commits to supporting a player...Life is easy that way...

I have supported Melo as hard as anyone so you just made yourself look dumb ... again

I will however call him out if I don't like something. Try it sometime, it can be exhilarating.

nixluva wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Opposing team's FG% this season

1) Pacers 41.9
2) OKC 43.1
3) Chicago 43.3
4) Clippers 43.5
5) the Wizards??? 43.7
6) Miami 43.8
7) Warriors 43.9
8) Pistons 44.1
9) Spurs 44.1
10) Celtics 44.2

18) Knicks 45.7

Dunno if any NBA champion in the last decade has been NOT a top 10 defense let alone below average

I think thye Knicks got a little arrogant after the first month. November we played like a champion on both ends of the court. But then we started to get lazy and the effort that was there is November is gone

I'm really hoping all this media hype about Rasheed being the true heart and soul of this team is true.

Rasheed will come back and we'll defend like we did when he was playing. Keep repeating this and it will become true.

the return of the "savior" hope: baron davis style.

gotta hope the hype is wrong -- these guys can make due regardless of wallace/camby.

There was a reason we added Sheed and Camby. You really do need bigs that are top tier defensive players and rebounders. You can't get smarter than Sheed and Camby in terms of defense at the basket. We've missed their presence. It's not a cure all, but they would make a difference.

Sheed talks on D and gets guys where they need to be and he's active for an old guy. Tyson has had far too many nights where he's not as aggressive as he was last year. Having Sheed would help a lot.

they need to find ways to deal with things when those guys are out. camby and wallace have combined to play in only 34 games. i dont disagree it will help though. i want them to avoid the same type of feel they have had with waiting/hoping that when player X comes back, its all good now.