VCoug wrote:Or Renaldo Balkman ahead of Rajon Rondo?

Stern: "Renaldo is not here tonight."
Dan Patrick: "... and that's probably a good thing."
Spike: "He a sleeper! A sleeper!" *laughing hysterically*
Stephen A: ".... I'm speechless."

NUPE wrote:

Caseloads wrote:Is anyone else equally impressed with Denver right now? They are rolling.

We could use a Wilson Chandler over here.

Isiah was a great evaluator of talent.

Wilson Chandler has been mired on the bench / injured for most of the last two seasons (like 95% of the time inactive). I don't hear a peep about ex-knicks when they are irrelevant and/or scrubs but if they have ONE or TWO good games a thread like this pops up as if ONE game sweeps away the massive heap of mediocrity that the player in question has compiled since leaving the Knicks.

Denver doing well does not have any real correlation with the Melo. trade. Denver lost that trade and any sensible person would acknowledge that.

Oh really?

Let me see, they traded present for future, yet they still made the playoffs 2 years in a row and are half a game behind us in the standings while playing in a much tougher conference (this any sensible person should aknowledge).

Read Nuggets blogs (Denver Stiffs, Round mining CO and such), an overwhelming number of Denver fans seem to be really happy about that trade. They know that team, one of the youngest in the league has nowhere to go but up.

So please, help understand how the Knicks won that trade because right now it doesn't seem that clear.

Edit: and to reply about Wilson, that guy has been very unlucky since the trade, but since I watch all Denver's games (boo bad fan raven), I can tell you he changed the way the team plays. When he, Gallo and Iguodala are on the court at the same time, their D is just suffocating. That is still really new and Will doesn't have his legs back yet.

Right now, I see them as a younger, more athletic and less experienced version of the 2004 Pistons.

They are fun to watch and I really love that team.

NUPE wrote:

Caseloads wrote:Is anyone else equally impressed with Denver right now? They are rolling.

We could use a Wilson Chandler over here.

Isiah was a great evaluator of talent.

Wilson Chandler has been mired on the bench / injured for most of the last two seasons (like 95% of the time inactive). I don't hear a peep about ex-knicks when they are irrelevant and/or scrubs but if they have ONE or TWO good games a thread like this pops up as if ONE game sweeps away the massive heap of mediocrity that the player in question has compiled since leaving the Knicks.

Denver doing well does not have any real correlation with the Melo. trade. Denver lost that trade and any sensible person would acknowledge that.

NUPE wrote:

Caseloads wrote:Is anyone else equally impressed with Denver right now? They are rolling.

We could use a Wilson Chandler over here.

Isiah was a great evaluator of talent.

Wilson Chandler has been mired on the bench / injured for most of the last two seasons (like 95% of the time inactive). I don't hear a peep about ex-knicks when they are irrelevant and/or scrubs but if they have ONE or TWO good games a thread like this pops up as if ONE game sweeps away the massive heap of mediocrity that the player in question has compiled since leaving the Knicks.

Denver doing well does not have any real correlation with the Melo. trade. Denver lost that trade and any sensible person would acknowledge that.

Exactly. How quick some forget that....

Chandler: 36 games missed, 18.8 minutes and 9.7 points per game off a .390 shooting percentage, 4.9 boards and 0.5 assists per game. 0.9 steals and 1.2 turnovers per game.

J.R Smith: 0 games missed, 33.4 minutes and 16.2 points per game off a .401 shooting percentage, 5.0 boards and 2.7 assists per game. 1.3 steals and 1.4 turnovers per game.

Lets be honest here, if this were our 6th man in J.R Smith, Wilson Chandler would be made out to be some type of injury prone awful shooting chucker due to his .390 shooting percentage, not a team player with only 0.5 assists per game and turnover prone at 1.2 turnovers per every 18.8 minutes of play...

But now that he's a Denver Nugget with a handful of decent games and zero game winners during the clutch, he's made out to be some type of special 6th Man of the Year contender here in 2012-2013. Just. Don't. Get it.

Carry along. Great thread about Denver and their players though.

smackeddog wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

NUPE wrote:

Caseloads wrote:Is anyone else equally impressed with Denver right now? They are rolling.

We could use a Wilson Chandler over here.

Isiah was a great evaluator of talent.

Wilson Chandler has been mired on the bench / injured for most of the last two seasons (like 95% of the time inactive). I don't hear a peep about ex-knicks when they are irrelevant and/or scrubs but if they have ONE or TWO good games a thread like this pops up as if ONE game sweeps away the massive heap of mediocrity that the player in question has compiled since leaving the Knicks.

Denver doing well does not have any real correlation with the Melo. trade. Denver lost that trade and any sensible person would acknowledge that.

Maybe its just me but it seems like people only care about 2 ex Knicks. I rarely hear about Wilson at all.

I'm sure knick fans would have been cool with Wilson Chandler being injured for 2 years- and patient too.

Not only that, but he was nothing more than a throw in during the trade to begin with. Think back and you'll remember 100% that Wilson Chandler was gone as a free agent regardless. Melo was coming to NY regardless, so even if we never traded for Melo but instead signed Melo as a free agent during the offseason, Wilson Chandler was gone to free agency no matter what. We had zero chance of keeping Wilson Chandler. And thank god we didn't.

Not if we wanted Tyson Chandler we didn't. He's due $5,930,415 this year. $6,344,164 next year. $6,754,913 the following season and a team option of $7,171,662 come 2015/2016. Sorry, but he's not worth that type of money. Not even close to that type of money. Not when you have J.R for $2,806,452 this season and even guys such as Felton will never (even) see 5,000,000 over the next 4 years let alone $5,930,415, $6,344,164, $6,754,913 and $7,171,662.

NYKMentality wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

NUPE wrote:

Caseloads wrote:Is anyone else equally impressed with Denver right now? They are rolling.

We could use a Wilson Chandler over here.

Isiah was a great evaluator of talent.

Wilson Chandler has been mired on the bench / injured for most of the last two seasons (like 95% of the time inactive). I don't hear a peep about ex-knicks when they are irrelevant and/or scrubs but if they have ONE or TWO good games a thread like this pops up as if ONE game sweeps away the massive heap of mediocrity that the player in question has compiled since leaving the Knicks.

Denver doing well does not have any real correlation with the Melo. trade. Denver lost that trade and any sensible person would acknowledge that.

Maybe its just me but it seems like people only care about 2 ex Knicks. I rarely hear about Wilson at all.

I'm sure knick fans would have been cool with Wilson Chandler being injured for 2 years- and patient too.

Not only that, but he was nothing more than a throw in during the trade to begin with. Think back and you'll remember 100% that Wilson Chandler was gone as a free agent regardless. Melo was coming to NY regardless, so even if we never traded for Melo but instead signed Melo as a free agent during the offseason, Wilson Chandler was gone to free agency no matter what. We had zero chance of keeping Wilson Chandler. And thank god we didn't.

Not if we wanted Tyson Chandler we didn't. He's due $5,930,415 this year. $6,344,164 next year. $6,754,913 the following season and a team option of $7,171,662 come 2015/2016. Sorry, but he's not worth that type of money. Not even close to that type of money. Not when you have J.R for $2,806,452 this season and even guys such as Felton will never (even) see 5,000,000 over the next 4 years let alone $5,930,415, $6,344,164, $6,754,913 and $7,171,662.

TeamBall wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

NUPE wrote:

Caseloads wrote:Is anyone else equally impressed with Denver right now? They are rolling.

We could use a Wilson Chandler over here.

Isiah was a great evaluator of talent.

Wilson Chandler has been mired on the bench / injured for most of the last two seasons (like 95% of the time inactive). I don't hear a peep about ex-knicks when they are irrelevant and/or scrubs but if they have ONE or TWO good games a thread like this pops up as if ONE game sweeps away the massive heap of mediocrity that the player in question has compiled since leaving the Knicks.

Denver doing well does not have any real correlation with the Melo. trade. Denver lost that trade and any sensible person would acknowledge that.

Maybe its just me but it seems like people only care about 2 ex Knicks. I rarely hear about Wilson at all.

I'm sure knick fans would have been cool with Wilson Chandler being injured for 2 years- and patient too.

Not only that, but he was nothing more than a throw in during the trade to begin with. Think back and you'll remember 100% that Wilson Chandler was gone as a free agent regardless. Melo was coming to NY regardless, so even if we never traded for Melo but instead signed Melo as a free agent during the offseason, Wilson Chandler was gone to free agency no matter what. We had zero chance of keeping Wilson Chandler. And thank god we didn't.

Not if we wanted Tyson Chandler we didn't. He's due $5,930,415 this year. $6,344,164 next year. $6,754,913 the following season and a team option of $7,171,662 come 2015/2016. Sorry, but he's not worth that type of money. Not even close to that type of money. Not when you have J.R for $2,806,452 this season and even guys such as Felton will never (even) see 5,000,000 over the next 4 years let alone $5,930,415, $6,344,164, $6,754,913 and $7,171,662.

Is there still a lockout in this situation? Because it seems Melo was ready to go to the Nets if the Knicks didnt do the trade.

Well, I personally believe that Melo wanted to be a Knick. He's always dreamed of being a Knick dating back to his childhood days. But, there was a possibility that Melo would've signed elsewhere during the offseason, and when you have a chance at landing a top 5 NBA talent? You pull the trigger. So, maybe I shouldn't have stated 'regardless' when in regards to Melo coming to NY during the offseason but Wilson Chandler? He was gone no matter what. Denver overpaid in a big time way for Wilson.

AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SUPERSTAR!! WE HAVE A SUPERSTAR!!

IronWillGiroud wrote:Nuggets are 32-18 to our 31-16,

AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A SUPERSTAR!! WE HAVE A SUPERSTAR!!

Our strength of schedule (opponents' winning%) is .480 and there's is .520.