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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
Stat 2.0, New and improved, the more complete big............
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MaTT4281
Posts: 34987 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #538 USA |
I said in the Kings gamethread that I honestly believe 2013 STAT may be even better than 2010. Added a post game, giving more of a focus on D (still not a good defender, but the effort's there). Here's hoping he can stay healthy this time around.
But damn, watching those Game 1 highlights vs. Boston still stings. We got screwed, KG hipchecked Toney on that screen for the Allen 3. Then JJ screws us in Game 2... |
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
So soes this mean I can't call him Mirage-Amar'e anymore?
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DurzoBlint
Posts: 23067 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/10/2006 Member: #1152 USA |
After its all said and done, this may be the best incarnation of Amare to date. He had a solid power game before but, now he truly has a BIG MANS GAME. A truly all around game with the rebounds coming along, the block shots, the jumper (mia has been found); running the floor smooth and fluidly with those awesome hands known to throw down thunderous dunks. The post up and baby hook are things of beauty.
Not only these things but Amare has been changing the game. Last couple of games, it looked like it was getting away from us, scoring was coming sporadically at best and then the BEAST checks in, solidified the lineup and gives us that offensive presences along with good offensive rebounding. the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
I am happy for amare, a good person, and once phenomenal athlete... It is nice to see him re-invent himself somewhat.. Hardwork pays off... I still hope the best is yet to come from the "new" Amare...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
DurzoBlint wrote:After its all said and done, this may be the best incarnation of Amare to date. He had a solid power game before but, now he truly has a BIG MANS GAME. A truly all around game with the rebounds coming along, the block shots, the jumper (mia has been found); running the floor smooth and fluidly with those awesome hands known to throw down thunderous dunks. The post up and baby hook are things of beauty. his tip in late in the game vs Boston was huge.. almost went without notice, but that basket somewhat stopped the celts momentum.... Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
30 Assists R Us
The impressive presence of Amar'e down low is beginning to lead to what I call self-perpetuating offensive awesomeness. Perimeter players - even Melo and J.R. - feel compelled to feed the ball inside to STAT instead of passing aimlessly around the arc or going iso. Amar'e, in turn, recognizes the quality of shooters around him, understands that he no longer needs to force his way through double-teams, and he has been passing out of the double better than he has at any time during his Knicks career. This team has faced the same pressing question since the Melo trade: can two alpha-dog scorers coexist? Despite nearly two years of hand-wringing, the answer always seemed clear enough: unless Melo and Amar'e score their points in the exact same way (they don't), or are complete *******s (they aren't), then they should be able to find a way not only to coexist, but to thrive as a unit. We might finally be seeing that, Knicks fans. Hallelujah! - Joe Flynn, Posting and Toasting Extra credit goes to the home crowd for showering Amare with cheers when he comes out of the game. There is no better feeling for a player than to be recognized for his effort. In the case of Amare, it is as if New York fans are thanking him for putting the team before his ego. Stoudemire, the sympathetic figure... the veteran trying to salvage one last great season from the debris and heartbreak of last year... suddenly occupies a spot that few Knicks players achieve... and is lifted by the stubborn, positive energy that makes NYC unique. A crowd favorite. once a knick always a knick
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MSG3
Posts: 22788 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/2/2009 Member: #2476 USA |
I've been saying for a while that I have a lot of faith in Woodson for how he gets through to the players. If anyone could make it work between Amar'e, Tyson and Melo I knew Woody could. There is still a lot that has to be seen, but the last couple of weeks you can really see a comfort level and cohesion growing between them.
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bernard
Posts: 20730 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/17/2003 Member: #475 |
I'm seeing as much quickness as ever. His first step beats most bigs.
He's also not trying to do too much as he has in the past, when he was our No. 1 option, so the TO's are down. Not seeing quite the same force as in the past -- when he used to dunk every time he got within 5 feet of the hole. And his hands are a bit off. But he's got such a nice touch around the hole he doesn't need to jam every shot. And I think his hands are coming back with more play as his timing and confidence come back. All in all, he's been phenomenal. Much better than I'd hoped or expected. And you gotta love the guy. Always says the right thing. Team first. Genuine good guy. |
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
I couldn't stress it enough heading into Stoudemire's return that Amar'e was on the verge of returning stronger than ever. Continued to state how A.) Amar'e was focused on nothing but basketball during the entire offseason B.) Ate, Slept and **** basketball during the offseason C.) Worked out with, learned from and soaked up overall knowledge from one of the greatest Centers of all-time in Hakeem Olajuwon and D.) His athletic talents looked down right amazing during his first (and only) preseason game/performance this season before suffering a fluke injury in which a cyst had to be removed.
For the people who were stating that Amar'e was "done", will "never become a starter again", "finished" etc, etc. How quickly you all forget. He's already averaging 22.3 minutes per game during only his 15th game back from injury. I've stated it once and I'll state it again; Amar'e Stoudemire will become our starting PF sooner rather than later (especially come postseason play). |
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DurzoBlint
Posts: 23067 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/10/2006 Member: #1152 USA |
NYKMentality wrote:I couldn't stress it enough heading into Stoudemire's return that Amar'e was on the verge of returning stronger than ever. Continued to state how A.) Amar'e was focused on nothing but basketball during the entire offseason B.) Ate, Slept and **** basketball during the offseason C.) Worked out with, learned from and soaked up overall knowledge from one of the greatest Centers of all-time in Hakeem Olajuwon and D.) His athletic talents looked down right amazing during his first (and only) preseason game/performance this season before suffering a fluke injury in which a cyst had to be removed. If Woody played him the 30minutes he's been ok'ed to play, I have little doubt he'd average 20pts a game. Woody has been limiting him to around 22-25minutes a game. Also, Melo NEEDS to give up some shots for Amare. At one point Melo had taken 19shots to Amare's 5. That is TOO big a difference. the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
DurzoBlint wrote:NYKMentality wrote:I couldn't stress it enough heading into Stoudemire's return that Amar'e was on the verge of returning stronger than ever. Continued to state how A.) Amar'e was focused on nothing but basketball during the entire offseason B.) Ate, Slept and **** basketball during the offseason C.) Worked out with, learned from and soaked up overall knowledge from one of the greatest Centers of all-time in Hakeem Olajuwon and D.) His athletic talents looked down right amazing during his first (and only) preseason game/performance this season before suffering a fluke injury in which a cyst had to be removed. I don't believe for one second thank Melo needs to give up shots for Amar'e. Our Knicks are 27-11 during games in which Melo has not only played, but ranked 2nd amongst all NBA players in scoring. As Melo scores, our Knicks win. 27-11 to be exact. Hit or miss the shot, Melo puts so much pressure on opposing D's. He needs to continue his shooting/scoring ways. Amar'e Stoudemire himself needs to score as the opportunities come but more importantly, Amar'e himself needs to focus more on the defensive end, boxing out down low, playing strong defense, contesting shots and rebounding strong off the glass. Stoudemire's offense will come as it comes regardless if it's 10 shots or 22 shots, but Amar'e getting offensive touches should be the least of our worries. |
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
I think Melo should get his 20-25 shot attempts a game and stat should get about 12-15 attempts.
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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DurzoBlint
Posts: 23067 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/10/2006 Member: #1152 USA |
Anji wrote:I think Melo should get his 20-25 shot attempts a game and stat should get about 12-15 attempts. I agree. 7 shots in one game and 10 total shoot the next game is not enough. Only his efficiency has made it worthwhile. 30+shots for Melo and only 10for stat and some people don't think Melo should give up "A FEW" shots. Boggles the mind the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
DurzoBlint wrote:Anji wrote:I think Melo should get his 20-25 shot attempts a game and stat should get about 12-15 attempts. I'm not concerned about Stoudemire's offensive touches. I'm looking for Amar'e to play tough down low on both ends of the court, give his heart and soul to the defensive end of the basketball court, contest shots on a consistent basis, board hard off the glass, box out, protect Tyson Chandler and more importantly... Lead by example. Amar'e getting offensive touches is the least of my worries/focus. |
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DurzoBlint
Posts: 23067 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 7/10/2006 Member: #1152 USA |
NYKMentality wrote:DurzoBlint wrote:Anji wrote:I think Melo should get his 20-25 shot attempts a game and stat should get about 12-15 attempts. yes to that but, when a players is managing this type of efficiency, you get him more touches. Melo's shooting percentage isn't so good that he can't afford to give up 4 or 5 shots. Especially since he's taking well over 20 a game. the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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fishmike
Posts: 53899 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
Amare is awesome, nice to see him rounding back to form. Since he was drafted he's been one of the best offensive bigs in the game. Folks seem to have forgotten that he did this year after year while being the #1 scoring option for a team that went deep into the playoffs every year.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
fishmike wrote:Amare is awesome, nice to see him rounding back to form. Since he was drafted he's been one of the best offensive bigs in the game. Folks seem to have forgotten that he did this year after year while being the #1 scoring option for a team that went deep into the playoffs every year. he was one of my favorite players since he entered into the league.. most on realgm remember me pitching a fit when we didn't draft this guy... I always felt he would be a stud, but honestly, I think he is just a good person and teamate overall.. yes he has his flaws.. but when he was healthy and on top of his game, there were few that were as nasty as he was.... I want him to do well....he is easy to root for.. Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
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Clean
Posts: 30386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
I don't understand people obsession with start STAT. He is in the perfect role for him right now. He becomes the main man of the second team. He helps JR smith become just a finisher. Coming off the bench keep his minutes down to help keep his knees fresh. We get to hide his D vs the likes of Dujan Blairs of the league instead of the Tim Duncans(Using the Spurs as an example). Amare playing off the bench is no longer about keeping him away from Melo because they can't play with each other, it is about balancing our team.
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