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dk7th
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We're about halfway through the season so I want to get an idea of what the expectations are for this team.

I expect this team to make the ECF and will be upset if we fall short. I say this because we are in win-now mode with a rather old or aging roster. But now it looks as though we are starting to gain some health so it is really about staying healthy and gelling. On paper we have heard that the Knicks have the talent and we have seen some real promising signs at the beginning of the year. Now-- not so much.

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earthmansurfer
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1/28/2013  1:51 PM
It is hard to say as it depends on what team shows up. A win like last nights against Atlanta where you win and the opponent shoot 60% does not give me hope.
We have the talent but they got to play hard defense like earlier in the year. I don't know if Stat is good enough to play that kind of defense, no offense to him. Melo can, JR can, Tyson can.
Shump so far is not there, hopefully he is there by years end, but it takes time with ACL tears.

I'd say we are looking like a good 2nd round performance exit lately. For us to get to the title game we have to play GREAT DEFENSE. Can we? That is the question.

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1/28/2013  2:51 PM
if the defense can play like they did in november and we remain healthy i think we can make the finals. Many nba analysts make excuses for the heat saying that they are not really trying right now but the knicks match up well against them IMO IF they play like they did in november. Unfortunetly we have been very inconsistent since mid December. So if we can start playing well again i see no reason why we cant contend
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1/28/2013  6:58 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:if the defense can play like they did in november and we remain healthy i think we can make the finals. Many nba analysts make excuses for the heat saying that they are not really trying right now but the knicks match up well against them IMO IF they play like they did in november. Unfortunetly we have been very inconsistent since mid December. So if we can start playing well again i see no reason why we cant contend

well, what is it going to take to get back to playing the way we were? i think it's all about leadership. unfortunately i am not convinced that woodson has it in him to get this team to play at its best. also, if the ideal is that your best players are also the team's leaders, the knicks fall short in this category as well.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/28/2013  7:04 PM
Start of the season: Potential ECF appearance

Last 20 games: Potential 2nd round appearance, if that

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1/28/2013  7:08 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:if the defense can play like they did in november and we remain healthy i think we can make the finals. Many nba analysts make excuses for the heat saying that they are not really trying right now but the knicks match up well against them IMO IF they play like they did in november. Unfortunetly we have been very inconsistent since mid December. So if we can start playing well again i see no reason why we cant contend
I agree. Also, the transition to having Shump and Amare back is going well. The Knicks really need Felton to not reinjure his pinky.
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1/29/2013  2:33 PM
ecf 6+ games -- better would be nice -- that is making the finals.
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1/29/2013  2:35 PM
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1/29/2013  3:15 PM
I like our chances against Miami in the finals but, I don't think we can get past The Thunder if they make it.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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1/29/2013  3:37 PM
ECF strong performance assuming the 3 headed PG monster holds up.
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1/29/2013  3:37 PM
i ask myself what does it mean when there is a fairly even distribution along all the entire spectrum of expectations?

my initial response is the obvious one that there is no consensus and there is no consensus because it is not really clear how good or bad this team actually is.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/29/2013  3:44 PM
Horse****, 13 votes for ECF or better and 3 for Second round or less is an clear consensus???
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1/29/2013  3:46 PM
Anji wrote:Horse****, 13 votes for ECF or better and 3 for Second round or less is an clear consensus???

more like 10 and 6
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1/29/2013  3:58 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Anji wrote:Horse****, 13 votes for ECF or better and 3 for Second round or less is an clear consensus???

more like 10 and 6

Yeah, but using the same logic some fold take to our record, if you take away the first 4 votes, then we're 6-6 since the poll began...
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1/29/2013  4:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/29/2013  4:01 PM
dk7th wrote:i ask myself what does it mean when there is a fairly even distribution along all the entire spectrum of expectations?

my initial response is the obvious one that there is no consensus and there is no consensus because it is not really clear how good or bad this team actually is.

So u go from a guy who expected the Knicks to be in the 3 seed, if our are an optimist, which clearly you weren't, to the 7th seed, which I think more accurately describes your thinking...To now expecting the Knicks to reach the ECF or be a disappointment?????
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1/29/2013  4:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/29/2013  4:04 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Anji wrote:Horse****, 13 votes for ECF or better and 3 for Second round or less is an clear consensus???

more like 10 and 6


What??? 13 people voted ECF or better.

Edit* read the poll upside down, still 2-1 expect to be in the final 4.

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1/29/2013  4:02 PM
Anji wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
Anji wrote:Horse****, 13 votes for ECF or better and 3 for Second round or less is an clear consensus???

more like 10 and 6


What??? 13 people voted ECF or better.

It threw me off too. The title for each vote in on the bottom.
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1/29/2013  4:05 PM
Anji wrote:Horse****, 13 votes for ECF or better and 3 for Second round or less is an clear consensus???

there is no clear consensus if 10 vote ECF or better and 6 vote less than that.

i understand the formatting is a little visually confusing but maybe it's too early to conclude anything until more people vote.

what are your expectations by the way?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/29/2013  4:11 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:i ask myself what does it mean when there is a fairly even distribution along all the entire spectrum of expectations?

my initial response is the obvious one that there is no consensus and there is no consensus because it is not really clear how good or bad this team actually is.

So u go from a guy who expected the Knicks to be in the 3 seed, if our are an optimist, which clearly you weren't, to the 7th seed, which I think more accurately describes your thinking...To now expecting the Knicks to reach the ECF or be a disappointment?????

what i said was that the knicks HAD TO maintain a second seeding if they hoped to make the ECF. third seed won't get it done as history has shown the odds are against it.

as to optimism they sure looked like a 2nd seed to me the first 6 games of the season. since then, around the time not of the grizzlies loss but the rockets loss, this team has regressed.

i don't know where you got the notion i thought they were a 7th seed either-- unless you are referring to the fact that right now only a couple of games separates us from the 6th seed-- not the seventh. i did say that but that doesn't more accurately describe my thinking come on now.

so my expectations are the same-- if they looked that good the first 6 or 7 games they should be able to get that back. to me it boils down to coaching leadership and player leadership.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/29/2013  4:14 PM
I'm surprised that "be a statistically inferior team" wasn't a polling option

but I voted ECF with strong showing

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1/29/2013  4:25 PM
Eastern Conference Finals or Bust
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