NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:It's so comical to me that several posters are literally incensed in regards to the Knicks thriving with Melo. LMAO!

thriving? ok... surviving.... I think several are upset that they see another first round exit.. with MELOOOOOOOO........

I'd call first in division and second overall in the East with a real possibility of winning the East thriving. The Knicks have an outside chance of getting the best record in the league - OUTSIDE CHANCE- I'd call that thriving.

As for the playoffs and how the team performs, there are way too many factors to be considered and a lot can happen to improve or hurt the team during the next 40 games. I suggest you put the crystal ball away and take things as they come. Right now the Knicks are winning. That is the cold hard truth which we all know frustrates you.

I like how you seem to know what frustrates me.. yet you and others run after my post, threat to thread, posting the same thing.. " this is what frustrates you".. take a look in the mirror.. I think you are the one that is frustrated...

According to your definition of "thriving" We have a lot of teams "thriving" and a lot of teams with an "outside chance" of having the best record in the league... I guess that is kind of like, being in the "discussion"..

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:It's so comical to me that several posters are literally incensed in regards to the Knicks thriving with Melo. LMAO!

thriving? ok... surviving.... I think several are upset that they see another first round exit.. with MELOOOOOOOO........

I'd call first in division and second overall in the East with a real possibility of winning the East thriving. The Knicks have an outside chance of getting the best record in the league - OUTSIDE CHANCE- I'd call that thriving.

As for the playoffs and how the team performs, there are way too many factors to be considered and a lot can happen to improve or hurt the team during the next 40 games. I suggest you put the crystal ball away and take things as they come. Right now the Knicks are winning. That is the cold hard truth which we all know frustrates you.

I like how you seem to know what frustrates me.. yet you and others run after my post, threat to thread, posting the same thing.. " this is what frustrates you".. take a look in the mirror.. I think you are the one that is frustrated...

According to your definition of "thriving" We have a lot of teams "thriving" and a lot of teams with an "outside chance" of having the best record in the league... I guess that is kind of like, being in the "discussion"..

dk7th wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Uptown wrote:

NUPE wrote:

dk7th wrote:Still doesn't look like a ECF team to me. This just in: Hawks shoot 60% from the field.

But yeah sure a win is a win.

Yuck

You sound salty. You can't whine about Melo's fg% today so you opted for this. Pathetic.

Reading his posts reminds me of the argument I had in the babershop yesterday with a Bulls fan. Seriously, some of the stuff he posts were near identical to what the Bulls fan was saying...very hard to believe this dude is a Knick fan...

yeah me and your bulls fan buddy share a lot of perceptions in common except one thing: i want the knicks to win and he doesn't.

you shouldn't be afraid of making honest critiques of your team.

besides, if the measure of a fan is the expectations he has for his team then i am more of a fan than most.

my expectations are high so my critiques are going to be stringent. all i can say is too bad if you can't handle it.

but maybe you just have lower standards. maybe that makes you less of a knick fan.

Before making honest critiques of the Knicks, how about you make an honest assessment of yourself first. I dont know you personally, so I can only judge you by your post. In the middle of Melo tying a Knick record, and breaking another, all the while leading us to an exciting victory, you are tearing him down post after post in a game thread. Can you not see how someone on the other side of the computer screen would not take that as someone who has an agenda or is completely biased towards Melo? Its okay to critique, but thats all you do...There doesn't seem to be any balance to your posts. Its all negative all the time....

you're right you have no idea who i am or what is in my heart. nor do you actually read all of my posts so you don't know when i have given praise-- but of course i have given praise. in tonight's game thread i gave praise.

just admit it: you love melo's game just as i am not a fan of melo's game. so everything that doesn't dovetail with your belief is blasphemy and invalid.

i don't care about some stupid personal knick scoring record i care HOW the team wins!

Dk, if the knicks win it all going ISO Melo 70 pct of the time, will you be happy?

Are you talking about winning a championship or just one regular season game?

"win it all"

what does that mean???

instead of asking that question which has an obvious answer, i will tell you what my expectations are for this team and that should tell you why i am critical of the team:

my expectations for this team is not to win a title it is to make a strong showing in the playoffs and play a competitive eastern conference finals series.

now that i have said what my expectations are for this team, tell me what yours are.

First, please answer my question which your answer is not that obvious (to me)

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:It's so comical to me that several posters are literally incensed in regards to the Knicks thriving with Melo. LMAO!

thriving? ok... surviving.... I think several are upset that they see another first round exit.. with MELOOOOOOOO........

I'd call first in division and second overall in the East with a real possibility of winning the East thriving. The Knicks have an outside chance of getting the best record in the league - OUTSIDE CHANCE- I'd call that thriving.

As for the playoffs and how the team performs, there are way too many factors to be considered and a lot can happen to improve or hurt the team during the next 40 games. I suggest you put the crystal ball away and take things as they come. Right now the Knicks are winning. That is the cold hard truth which we all know frustrates you.

I like how you seem to know what frustrates me.. yet you and others run after my post, threat to thread, posting the same thing.. " this is what frustrates you".. take a look in the mirror.. I think you are the one that is frustrated...

According to your definition of "thriving" We have a lot of teams "thriving" and a lot of teams with an "outside chance" of having the best record in the league... I guess that is kind of like, being in the "discussion"..

I don't run after your post. In fact, I've barely posted here in the last few weeks. Get real.

It's odd to me. You seemed to think the Knicks were thriving a mere 2 games over .500 with Gallo. However, 12 games over .500 and leading our division is not thriving. You have zero credibility in regards to evaluating this team as it's known you want to see them fail, hate Melo and stated on Realgm that you had no ability to discuss this team rationally. These are facts.

Welcome to my ignore list.

AnubisADL wrote:

playa2 wrote:Still surprised why no reporter asked Woodson , when Teague was penetrating like a porn star, he didn't put Shumpert on him to stop the bleeding.

Woodson is not trying to destroy Shumpert when he has only been back like 3-4 games.

Are You telling me Iman Shumpert defending Jeff Teague would have broken down for the 20 minutes or so that he actually played ?

My question was why didn't any reporter ask Woodson the question.

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I do not mind the Melo critique but what I do mind is that no one else beside Jr and Felton get critiqued by the same posters. They do not feel the same need to critique Kidd or Tyson and just give Amar'e a pass on D cause he is what he is. Sad when they do not critique the so called leaders of the team.

let's be clear: these 3 players take the lion's share of the shots so they should get the lion's share of the critique if the offense does not look like a ECF-worthy offense.

felton can't stay in front of the more than half the point guards of this league and you want to get on kidd's case are you kidd-ing me? the man is 40 years old and playing with a bad lower back. he should not be playing more than 18 minutes a game but he is playing 28 by necessity. have you any idea how hard it is to play basketball that way? it looks to me that he has not been healthy in weeks and weeks. translation: he gets a pass.

jr is a knucklehead pure and simple. 15.3 fga and 3.5 fta is a terrible ratio. has anyone committed more fouls on a 3-point shooter? also 2.9 ast and 1.6 TO the guy overdribbles every night and no amount of bad shot-making nullifies what i see and i assure you come playoff time his type of game will hurt the team.

ty chandler came straight out of high school and he is an old 30. the back tap rebounds are an adaptation for old legs with not much spring in them. he needs a running start to get elevation. and this season he is has been wearing down by playing too many minutes because sheed and camby have sandcastles for feet. dallas recognized that he should not be playing more than 28 minutes a game but the knicks are forced to play him 33 minutes a game because the bench is ancient. translation: he gets a pass.

Exactly. If Tyson or Kidd starts putting up a ton of 6 for 26 performances, I'll criticize them too.

Aww you made built in excuses for your precious few that was so sweet. Now Tyson is an old 30 because he came out of H.S. that gives him a pass on D. Give Kidd a pass to for his dumb turnovers when he took over the job like some wanted because he was the best Pg the Knicks had.

RonRon wrote:Papabear, do you consider me one of these "Trolls"?

To be fair, I think there are 2 types of trolls in here,

1- Anti - Melo
2- Pro - Melo *some of which I find much more annoying*

You have been here since 2007 on UK board, many here have been here even before me
I was the 246 member to be exact and this I have been a Knick fan way before that with all the Isiah/Layden years as well

You shouldn't be telling others here to go to Nyets or Houston board, it isn't even your site.

Papabear Says

Ron Ron no it's not my site but I think that I've been a Knicks fan much longer than you have and maybe I will start looking around at other sites that might make me feel good about my Knicks. When they suck I always shout out about that and sometimes when I am complaining my wife things I'm going over board. The difference is I can right a positive post about the Knicks and Melo and I can write a negitive post about Melo and the Knicks. But here is my explination about a hater. You take TKF and his twin. They hate Melo. They would rather have a loosing season than to have Melo out there. Something else about TKF and his twin they hate finess players like Melo. They can't get themselves to say something positive without shooting the man down and it's getting worse. So what I am saying is this. Maybe I need to look at other sites because the TKF twins have almost taken over this forum and you see complalining taken to another level. I don't like it and I don't have to put up with it.

Papabear wrote:

RonRon wrote:Papabear, do you consider me one of these "Trolls"?

To be fair, I think there are 2 types of trolls in here,

1- Anti - Melo
2- Pro - Melo *some of which I find much more annoying*

You have been here since 2007 on UK board, many here have been here even before me
I was the 246 member to be exact and this I have been a Knick fan way before that with all the Isiah/Layden years as well

You shouldn't be telling others here to go to Nyets or Houston board, it isn't even your site.

Papabear Says

Ron Ron no it's not my site but I think that I've been a Knicks fan much longer than you have and maybe I will start looking around at other sites that might make me feel good about my Knicks. When they suck I always shout out about that and sometimes when I am complaining my wife things I'm going over board. The difference is I can right a positive post about the Knicks and Melo and I can write a negitive post about Melo and the Knicks. But here is my explination about a hater. You take TKF and his twin. They hate Melo. They would rather have a loosing season than to have Melo out there. Something else about TKF and his twin they hate finess players like Melo. They can't get themselves to say something positive without shooting the man down and it's getting worse. So what I am saying is this. Maybe I need to look at other sites because the TKF twins have almost taken over this forum and you see complalining taken to another level. I don't like it and I don't have to put up with it.

dk7th wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I do not mind the Melo critique but what I do mind is that no one else beside Jr and Felton get critiqued by the same posters. They do not feel the same need to critique Kidd or Tyson and just give Amar'e a pass on D cause he is what he is. Sad when they do not critique the so called leaders of the team.

let's be clear: these 3 players take the lion's share of the shots so they should get the lion's share of the critique if the offense does not look like a ECF-worthy offense.

felton can't stay in front of the more than half the point guards of this league and you want to get on kidd's case are you kidd-ing me? the man is 40 years old and playing with a bad lower back. he should not be playing more than 18 minutes a game but he is playing 28 by necessity. have you any idea how hard it is to play basketball that way? it looks to me that he has not been healthy in weeks and weeks. translation: he gets a pass.

jr is a knucklehead pure and simple. 15.3 fga and 3.5 fta is a terrible ratio. has anyone committed more fouls on a 3-point shooter? also 2.9 ast and 1.6 TO the guy overdribbles every night and no amount of bad shot-making nullifies what i see and i assure you come playoff time his type of game will hurt the team.

ty chandler came straight out of high school and he is an old 30. the back tap rebounds are an adaptation for old legs with not much spring in them. he needs a running start to get elevation. and this season he is has been wearing down by playing too many minutes because sheed and camby have sandcastles for feet. dallas recognized that he should not be playing more than 28 minutes a game but the knicks are forced to play him 33 minutes a game because the bench is ancient. translation: he gets a pass.

Papabear Says

Thats it!!!dk7th have the answer this team is doomed. Marked for failure !! So whats the use?? dk7th and his twin brother mapped it out. We are done!! So why complain? Melo is a looser and Kidd is a boozer, JR is a Looser, Felton stink,Sheed Wallace needs to go back into retirement. We are done for the season No hope for us and if we make the playoffs ??? (do we make it almighty twins) we won't make it to the second round. Doom and gloom for the Knick's. Hey let's chase Melo out of town to make the TKF and dk7th twins feel better. Maybe even give them a belt so they can spank Melo that will really make the twins feel real goooood.