CrushAlot wrote:Something that bugs me but may not have any basis. It appears that some wont post on game threads for big wins like the celtics game but post prolifically on threads where the Knicks have a bad loss. Some of the pro dantoni/anti Woodson crowd seems to be a bit empowered with woodson's team having a dantoni type run of late.

It's been said a few times, but it's true- a lot of posters seem to hope the team loses or certain players struggle, just so they can be proved right. A shame really, that it's come to this as for me it's draining a bit of enjoyment that I used to get out of reading these boards- we're second in the east and top of our division, but reading most of the posts you would think we have the worst record in the east. It's ridiculous when people start claiming our wins don't count, only our more recent loses do, and when a player has a bad game that's the real them, even if they've had 10 great games before that.

There's always the ignore button I suppose, but I don't really believe in them!

IronWillGiroud wrote:

...It requires time for new parts to get in sync.

same old story going on a decade plus now,

oh, you forgot "sheed/baron/kt/dudly/kenny waker is our savior"

It's a fact- or do you honestly believe Felton should have returned at the peak of his game after a month off? Or that Felton and Amar'e should instantly have their peak chemistry back from 2 years ago after playing no games together since? Shump was out for 8 or 9 months- do you honestly believe that has no impact on a players game?

Anyways, back to the game- Hawks scare me as they have a lot of deadly 3 pt shooters, and teams seem to be on fire vs us (and it's not just poor defense- opposing teams up their games against us). Hopefully we have a lot of pride and will be out to avenge last nights horror. Also you know Woody always wants to beat his former team (he feels his friend stabbed him in the back to get the coaching job).

Let's see if we can get back on track and put the sixers game behind us!

TeamBall wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Anyways, back to the game- Hawks scare me as they have a lot of deadly 3 pt shooters, and teams seem to be on fire vs us (and it's not just poor defense- opposing teams up their games against us). Hopefully we have a lot of pride and will be out to avenge last nights horror. Also you know Woody always wants to beat his former team (he feels his friend stabbed him in the back to get the coaching job).

Let's see if we can get back on track and put the sixers game behind us!

I didnt know about that. What happened?

As for the thread title, I dont think Woodys gonna start Amare until theres a big not named Kurt Thomas to come in for him when he needs rest.

ATLANTA -- Mike Woodson was nostalgic about being back for the first time since being let go by the Hawks after the 2009-10 season. But he wouldn't talk about his former assistant and replacement, Larry Drew.

The two haven't spoken to each other since Woodson left. "We haven't talked," Woodson said Friday. "I just want to talk about basketball. Let's keep it that way."

Woodson and Drew were teammates in the NBA, and Drew was Woodson's assistant all six years he was the Hawks' head coach. A report in the Atlanta Journal Constitution said their relationship soured because Woodson believes Drew undermined him.

After the morning shootaround, neither coach mentioned the other's name. Drew praised the Knicks' play of late but didn't credit Woodson for guiding them to eight wins in nine games entering Friday.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/woodson-drew-old-friends-don-t-speak-1.3634526

It was something about, while Woody was still Hawks coach, just after the playoffs disaster of his final year, his old time friend and assistant coach, Drew, met with the GM/owners and said what he would do differently and basically made his case for Woody's job. Woody got fired shortly after and Larry Drew took over. Ouch- that is cold blooded!

Ah, here's a bit more:

To get his first head-coaching job, Drew had to convince Hawks owners that he would do things differently than Woodson. Drew also told the owners he had ideas that Woodson never implemented–ideas that the owners also favored.

You can see why that might lead Woody to think his old friend and former teammate turned on him. But the bigger problem, according to Woody confidants, is that Woody believes Drew was making his case to be head coach with the team’s owners while Woody still had the job.

http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2012/03/30/atlanta-hawks-mike-woodson-larry-drew-not-on-speaking-terms/

gunsnewing wrote:Maybe Drew was actually trying to implement an offensive game plan besides isoJoe and the owners agreed and fired Woodson

Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman
Same starting lineup. Kidd playing. Stoudemire off bench.

Should rest Kidd til Wednesday

gunsnewing wrote:Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN
Mike Woodson says he's hopeful Rasheed Wallace will practice this week

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Something that bugs me but may not have any basis. It appears that some wont post on game threads for big wins like the celtics game but post prolifically on threads where the Knicks have a bad loss. Some of the pro dantoni/anti Woodson crowd seems to be a bit empowered with woodson's team having a dantoni type run of late.

It's been said a few times, but it's true- a lot of posters seem to hope the team loses or certain players struggle, just so they can be proved right. A shame really, that it's come to this as for me it's draining a bit of enjoyment that I used to get out of reading these boards- we're second in the east and top of our division, but reading most of the posts you would think we have the worst record in the east. It's ridiculous when people start claiming our wins don't count, only our more recent loses do, and when a player has a bad game that's the real them, even if they've had 10 great games before that.

There's always the ignore button I suppose, but I don't really believe in them!

Pretty much why I post sporadically now. We are in the middle of our best season in over a decade and some of these posts make it seem like we are still in the middle of the Isiah Error. Too many posters concerned with being proven right (notice the recent bumping of year old threads), too many agenda driven threads which are boring and predictable...Pure objective basketball discussion has seriously taken a backseat here. Some of the things some of these posters say are similar to the arguments I have in the barber shop with non-knick fans who cant stand the Knicks....