gunsnewing wrote:

OGkush121 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

OGkush121 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

OGkush121 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

OGkush121 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo really forcing it today 8pt game

What are you talking about? He's been our best overall player today.

24 points (7/18), 4 assists, 3 boards and 2 steals +11 and our Knicks are up 17 here in the 4th quarter.

P.S: Just because an NBA player misses a couple of shots here and there, doesn't mean Melo's "forcing" anything because when in actual reality; Melo LED us to victory today.

yeah guns!

7-18!

And you said he was having a bad game! Some kind of dummy you are SMH

Make that 8/19, 26 points, 4 assists, 3 boards, 2 blocks and +14.

Yea, what a "bad game" for Melo. Bunch of clueless clowns around here.

Maybe all this stuff that you post are jokes and you are being sarcastic?? If thats the case then you GOT us.

It wasn't one of Melo's better games, but some of the posters here make it out like he was terrible, when infact if it was anyone else the tone would be much different.
26,4,3,2 +14 is hardly a bad game, although yes it obviously wasn't one to rave about.

Exactly. Some of these CLUELESS punks are acting as if 8/19 is some type of "awful" shooting performance when in actual reality, Melo was the GREATEST player on the court today. There were 22 players in which played in today's game, Melo was by far the most productive player on the court today.

Is there something wrong with suggesting Melo will be better once Felton returns? Like when he was shooting 11 for 19 earlier in the year? Look at Melo's shooting percentage since Felton went down. Do you watch the games or just worry about defending Melo on this board?

there's nothing wrong with that, but some of your posts like the recent "Chamberlain dig" are uncalled for

lol show me what other posts were uncalled for?

Am I the problem for calling the game like i see it or is NYCLOWN the real problem??

with all due respect, you can call it like you see it without being a d1ck about it.
and seriously, what are you attempting to gain by calling him names the last 2 posts?
in your defense the "clueless punks" gesture wasn't nice either, but it seems to me like you want to get "into this" for some reason.

I don't wanna take a dig at anybody, but I'll say it again, you don't have to agree with people but sometimes your posts do tend to be a bit "offensive" to fans of certain players (ofcourse we're all Knick fans, but you also have player favoritism, one which I can't deny being guilty of).

Now I like to think I'm being objective, I do however see more people being overly critical of Melo than those like NYKmentality, and I can't say I particularly like it.
Instead of being happy about being in this situation with a genuine superstar and currently a top 5 player in the world playing the best Knicks basketball since before 2000 they choose to b1tch and moan because the Knicks don't have LeBron.

He called me a clown and then a punk. Which is funny more than anything but what do you care? You two related?

By the way this goes on in every thread. The guy has issues. I'm not the only one who sees this either. Others have engaged in this kind of thing with him before

why do you feel like you need to be taking digs constantly, I'm trying to explain things the best I can without being offensive.
Yes, he can get a little jumpy at times, but it's like he's being attacked for being "overly positive" about our team, now that's funny ;).

And in response to your other reply, notice that I didn't say you were generaly being a d1ck about Carmelo like certain other posters I won't mention because I really don't have the will to go into this any further, I merely said you did write down some unnecessary things which tick certain people off. Am I mistaken?

So you think it was ok for him to call me and others clowns and punks? Not that it matters because its pretty funny and entertaining in my opinion

First and foremost, I simply stated...

"Make that 8/19, 26 points, 4 assists, 3 boards, 2 blocks and +14.

Yea, what a "bad game" for Melo. Bunch of clueless clowns around here".

I never once stated any names but then again, if the shoe fits Gunsewing? Well, then, wear it.

mrKnickShot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Missed the game how did Shump look? Can he get up and down the court like he used to? Can he sprint?

Glad Novak is getting back in the swing of things offensively, maybe this will put a lid on the trade Novak threads for a while.

Looked a lot better than anyone could've ever imagined. 2 for 3 from 3's and tried to dunk over a player. Great steal in transition and finish. Was moving shockingly well on both ends!

Awesome news! That was the big question mark in the offseason and it sounds like its been answered. I hope Shump eventually returns to the starting lineup. Would also be interested in seeing a Shump/ JR backcourt at times as well. That would be a nice defensive tandem for certain situations.

Shump made one play today that got me.

He got a pass from (I think) Melo behind the arc. He faked a 3 and drove the lane beating his man and forcing help. He then dished to Tyson who was left open by his man who committed to shump and Tyson got an easy dunk.

It was a play that I would love to see consistently out of JR but it just does not happen.

He also had a nice steal and really nice finish but what you won't see in the stat was how many steals he almost had.

He got beat off the dribble a couple of times but that was partly due to rust.

His offense was (VERY) surprisingly fluid. The form on his J is perfect and it was stated that the knicks shooting coach noticed that Shump was jumping to high on his jumper and that was hurting his pct/shooting efficiency. Shump stated that he is looking to show how much his J has improved with the coaching help.

VERY positive. I just get nervous with every play about him getting hurt. Lets hope that he can stay healthy.

Sounds great. Some players don't think about their game when they're getting over an injury. Its great that Shump used the time to expand his game. I agree about worrying about him getting hurt again, its probably going to be like that for the first few weeks.

mrKnickShot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Missed the game how did Shump look? Can he get up and down the court like he used to? Can he sprint?

Glad Novak is getting back in the swing of things offensively, maybe this will put a lid on the trade Novak threads for a while.

Looked a lot better than anyone could've ever imagined. 2 for 3 from 3's and tried to dunk over a player. Great steal in transition and finish. Was moving shockingly well on both ends!

Awesome news! That was the big question mark in the offseason and it sounds like its been answered. I hope Shump eventually returns to the starting lineup. Would also be interested in seeing a Shump/ JR backcourt at times as well. That would be a nice defensive tandem for certain situations.

Shump made one play today that got me.

He got a pass from (I think) Melo behind the arc. He faked a 3 and drove the lane beating his man and forcing help. He then dished to Tyson who was left open by his man who committed to shump and Tyson got an easy dunk.

It was a play that I would love to see consistently out of JR but it just does not happen.

He also had a nice steal and really nice finish but what you won't see in the stat was how many steals he almost had.

He got beat off the dribble a couple of times but that was partly due to rust.

His offense was (VERY) surprisingly fluid. The form on his J is perfect and it was stated that the knicks shooting coach noticed that Shump was jumping to high on his jumper and that was hurting his pct/shooting efficiency. Shump stated that he is looking to show how much his J has improved with the coaching help.

VERY positive. I just get nervous with every play about him getting hurt. Lets hope that he can stay healthy.

Sounds great. Some players don't think about their game when they're getting over an injury. Its great that Shump used the time to expand his game. I agree about worrying about him getting hurt again, its probably going to be like that for the first few weeks.

Shump has the personality for NY.

He is smart and a good student of the game.

He plays defense and prides himself with it.

He loves to learn and get better. If he can hit the J consistently and take it smartly (not like JR) then he will be a real threat. For some reason he has always missed his dunks in traffic.

Stay HEALTHY DUDE!

The thing about JR is when he comes off the bench and knows his limits, he can be a real game changer. When JR thinks that he has to win the game by himself, well, we've seen the results. Once the rotation is more or less set, I'm confident that JR will do a better job of accepting his role again and playing under control.

NYKMentality wrote:With a Lakers win over Miami tonight (in L.A) we'll have full rights to first place of the entire Eastern Conference. Including over Miami due to our 2-0 tiebreaker.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:dumars looking fatter than cee-lo lol

Is Cee Lo a dwarf or just a short fat dude with trex arms?

Papabear Says

I think he's just short. Some people were not blessed with prefect bodies but he makes up for it with music talent which he is blessed with.

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:That pass to tyson was nice. Shump is a playmaker. Said it from day one. Guys like him and Wade are playmakers

Him and Wade?

Easy dude. Don't be a clown.

Ok...enough with the clown references.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Andrew wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:That pass to tyson was nice. Shump is a playmaker. Said it from day one. Guys like him and Wade are playmakers

Him and Wade?

Easy dude. Don't be a clown.

Ok...enough with the clown references.

It was in jest and knew that. He was called a punk and a clown by a poster in this thread.

I'm asking that everyone stop with this and focus on talking about basketball.

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:That pass to tyson was nice. Shump is a playmaker. Said it from day one. Guys like him and Wade are playmakers

Him and Wade?

Easy dude. Don't be a clown.

WELL shump is a playmaker in the mold of wade, meaning, physically strong, can get to the rack, make plays for himself and others... of course he is not on the level of wade, not close, but at times you can see flashes, especially when healthy..

It is ok to use great players as refrence points.. no one is saying shump and wade are equal, but at times when he makes plays like that it kind of reminds you of certain players.. I can understand that... wade is great tho.. No doubt! so we do want to be careful with the comparisons, but I get where guns is coming from..

Shump is similar to Wade in size and athleticism. That is where the comparison ends right now.

gunsnewing wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:That pass to tyson was nice. Shump is a playmaker. Said it from day one. Guys like him and Wade are playmakers

Him and Wade?

Easy dude. Don't be a clown.

WELL shump is a playmaker in the mold of wade, meaning, physically strong, can get to the rack, make plays for himself and others... of course he is not on the level of wade, not close, but at times you can see flashes, especially when healthy..

It is ok to use great players as refrence points.. no one is saying shump and wade are equal, but at times when he makes plays like that it kind of reminds you of certain players.. I can understand that... wade is great tho.. No doubt! so we do want to be careful with the comparisons, but I get where guns is coming from..

Shump is similar to Wade in size and athleticism. That is where the comparison ends right now.

There is more to it than that. They are not similar in size. Shump is 6'5 Wade is 6'3

Wade is listed at 6'4" actually. They are similar in height. I did not say that they are the same exact height. You do know what similar means, right?

As far as ball handling and playmaking, Wade outclasses Shump by a massive, wide, large margin. They are not even comparable. It makes no sense to even call Shumpert a playmaker, imo. Shump struggles to even play part-time pg as we saw last season. Shump excels at defense and his offense and playmaking are largely inconsistent and unreliable. These things will improve over time and in the future but as of today any comparison to of Shump to Wade beyond stature is absurd.