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Killa4luv
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1/8/2013  2:20 AM
Woody will be able to coach some valuable lessons out of this. THis game we lost was meaningless, and we will get to see a little emotional adversity and see how guys respond.
I'm glad to see us lose this kind of game now. Melo will have to make adjustments, and I'm sure he will.
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gunsnewing
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1/8/2013  2:28 AM
it's only one game but its a little concerning how the offense has reverted back to one on one ball. Bring the ball up to halfcourt and hand the ball to Melo to make plays. Knicks really miss Felton's creativity even with the 39% shooting. Also without Felton we are seeing JR and Melo not looking to get Amare involved for easy baskets. What was the point of having Amare, Melo and Tyson work with Hakeem if you are going to walk the ball up to chuck 30ft 3's all game? Camby will not remain the starter over Amare. Melo and Amare better figure out how to play together quick. Hopefully Felton is paying close attention and pulls the team together once he returns
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1/8/2013  7:37 AM
gunsnewing wrote:it's only one game but its a little concerning how the offense has reverted back to one on one ball. Bring the ball up to halfcourt and hand the ball to Melo to make plays. Knicks really miss Felton's creativity even with the 39% shooting. Also without Felton we are seeing JR and Melo not looking to get Amare involved for easy baskets. What was the point of having Amare, Melo and Tyson work with Hakeem if you are going to walk the ball up to chuck 30ft 3's all game? Camby will not remain the starter over Amare. Melo and Amare better figure out how to play together quick. Hopefully Felton is paying close attention and pulls the team together once he returns

This game magnified the importance of Felton on this team. Kidd and Prigs wilted under the full court pressure of the C's. It was ridiculous watching Priggs struggle the way he did, trying to bring the ball up the court which lead to us handing Melo and JR the ball way too soon in the offense.

Also, since Felton went down, our PNR offense has been non-existent. Felt and Chandler lead the league at one point with alley-oops which came directly off of the PNR. Without the PNR, we've relied on Melo and JR to bail us out quite a bit. Kidd cant run it, and when Priggs tries, he's throwing bounce passes at our bigs feet and the ball is either getting deflected or the bigs cant do anything with it.

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1/8/2013  7:53 AM
Killa4luv wrote:Woody will be able to coach some valuable lessons out of this. THis game we lost was meaningless, and we will get to see a little emotional adversity and see how guys respond.
I'm glad to see us lose this kind of game now. Melo will have to make adjustments, and I'm sure he will.

Nice fable but these are pro players and we also know Melo leads the league in Technicals. Its been a trend and not the first time our guys got a bit thin under the skin.

When YouTube Starphuch Melo first got to the knicks this is the guy I was not crazy about. I have come to like the guy (not at worship levels as some) and all players are entitled to a few bad games but what happens at those critical moments? Does the guy melt down again? does he pick up silly fouls and smile?

I hate only one team and thats the Celtics but I have learned to respect them. Pierce is a killer and Garnett is crazy mean but he played Melo big time on his home court. If you noticed, Garnett would just look away while melo yapped and kept going. Garnett turns it on and off. Stepped to the line, nailed his FT's and put the game away.

Meanwhile Melo raged and thru up all kinds of shots. JR was pretty cool most of the time. His shot selection the last minute was needed but he got a bit hyper at the 4 minute mark. Melo is the leader and when the leader melts, so does the minions.

This is not a young team in need of a lesson. This is a very experienced team and its "MVP" lost it. Leads the league in Techs.

This is how you get removed from "The conversation".

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1/8/2013  10:20 AM
Don't sweat the technique.

So, Carmelo ended up 6–for–26 from the field, JR Smith was off (and bloodied by the end), the usually chill Pablo Prigioni got a technical, and it ended with Pierce taunting the Knicks crowd like he has so many times before. The Celtics did it without Rajon Rondo; they did like it was nothing.

And the Knicks were so off their game that by the end, Carmelo — hardly a growling, fighting, scratching beast — was so angry he went to find Garnett after the game was over. It was a big enough deal that police were called to break it up. Anthony was also screaming outside the Celtics' locker room and, in a nice touch, was waiting for Garnett at the Celtics' team bus afterwards. (A Boston TV station has video; Carmelo looked cold out there.) This is as angry as we've ever seen Carmelo, and while there's a temptation to call it a good thing — killer instinct! he wants blood! rivalries! — Carmelo tends to play his best when he is in rhythm and comfortable. He certainly doesn't look rhythmic and comfortable in that video, and he sure as heck didn't look that way in the game.

So it's just one loss and not a huge deal: The Knicks are still comfortably in first in the Atlantic Division. (Also, Amar'e Stoudemire seemed to get a little more of his step back.) But this fun season so far, until last night, hadn't featured one game against the Celtics yet. Now we know what we already expected: Any success the Knicks have is going to have to come through Boston. (Right now, they'd face each other in the first round of the playoffs. Gulp.) There are three more games left with Boston this year, the next one in Boston in a couple of weeks. Yep, they're going to be a pain in the ass this year too. They're going to be a pain in the ass forever.

- Will Leitch

Anyone who ever thinks Boston, or any NBA team, is ever a guaranteed win is sadly mistaken.

You bring your best collective competitive spirit, and poise, every night - or you get a beat down.

As our beloved Knicks learn lessons about floor spacing and verbal communication on defense, there are still lessons to be learned about pride and individual sacrifice.

Turn the other cheek, complain to the refs or manage your temper and hustle back?

Woodson has some reading lists to consider.

The leadership seminar is in session.

once a knick always a knick
Nalod
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1/8/2013  11:42 AM
misterearl wrote:Don't sweat the technique.

So, Carmelo ended up 6–for–26 from the field, JR Smith was off (and bloodied by the end), the usually chill Pablo Prigioni got a technical, and it ended with Pierce taunting the Knicks crowd like he has so many times before. The Celtics did it without Rajon Rondo; they did like it was nothing.

And the Knicks were so off their game that by the end, Carmelo — hardly a growling, fighting, scratching beast — was so angry he went to find Garnett after the game was over. It was a big enough deal that police were called to break it up. Anthony was also screaming outside the Celtics' locker room and, in a nice touch, was waiting for Garnett at the Celtics' team bus afterwards. (A Boston TV station has video; Carmelo looked cold out there.) This is as angry as we've ever seen Carmelo, and while there's a temptation to call it a good thing — killer instinct! he wants blood! rivalries! — Carmelo tends to play his best when he is in rhythm and comfortable. He certainly doesn't look rhythmic and comfortable in that video, and he sure as heck didn't look that way in the game.

So it's just one loss and not a huge deal: The Knicks are still comfortably in first in the Atlantic Division. (Also, Amar'e Stoudemire seemed to get a little more of his step back.) But this fun season so far, until last night, hadn't featured one game against the Celtics yet. Now we know what we already expected: Any success the Knicks have is going to have to come through Boston. (Right now, they'd face each other in the first round of the playoffs. Gulp.) There are three more games left with Boston this year, the next one in Boston in a couple of weeks. Yep, they're going to be a pain in the ass this year too. They're going to be a pain in the ass forever.

- Will Leitch

Anyone who ever thinks Boston, or any NBA team, is ever a guaranteed win is sadly mistaken.

You bring your best collective competitive spirit, and poise, every night - or you get a beat down.

As our beloved Knicks learn lessons about floor spacing and verbal communication on defense, there are still lessons to be learned about pride and individual sacrifice.

Turn the other cheek, complain to the refs or manage your temper and hustle back?

Woodson has some reading lists to consider.

The leadership seminar is in session.

THats a good ananlogy and we can all argue various aspects of Melos 19th nervous breakdown but it was a fun game to watch and im not tuning in to watch a game of sportmanship and politeness. Pierce was cool a cucumber while KG instigated a mess then had the good sense to shut it down.

In the lockerroom Im sure the Celtics lockerroom was cheerful, with music playing and extra servings of corned beef passed around while they laughed over Melo nervous condition and even better when they learned Melo is standnig outside the door with his puffy down coat on while Woodson is trying to hypnotize him into a calm state using his beard and that albino Gary Bussy looking security guy ( the guy who sits behind the bench to protect the players, or protect Dolans investments ) is trying to talk sense into him. I was waiting for La La to get on a bull horn and try to talk Melo down.

So what is the lesson:

1. Melo lost it, did not find his rhythm while in Rage.

2. Knicks lost the game.

3. Maybe Melo is suspended. MVP chatter will quiet a bit. Diva meltdowns and missing games from egocentric hissy fits not becoming.

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1/8/2013  11:45 AM
Uptown wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:it's only one game but its a little concerning how the offense has reverted back to one on one ball. Bring the ball up to halfcourt and hand the ball to Melo to make plays. Knicks really miss Felton's creativity even with the 39% shooting. Also without Felton we are seeing JR and Melo not looking to get Amare involved for easy baskets. What was the point of having Amare, Melo and Tyson work with Hakeem if you are going to walk the ball up to chuck 30ft 3's all game? Camby will not remain the starter over Amare. Melo and Amare better figure out how to play together quick. Hopefully Felton is paying close attention and pulls the team together once he returns

This game magnified the importance of Felton on this team. Kidd and Prigs wilted under the full court pressure of the C's. It was ridiculous watching Priggs struggle the way he did, trying to bring the ball up the court which lead to us handing Melo and JR the ball way too soon in the offense.

Also, since Felton went down, our PNR offense has been non-existent. Felt and Chandler lead the league at one point with alley-oops which came directly off of the PNR. Without the PNR, we've relied on Melo and JR to bail us out quite a bit. Kidd cant run it, and when Priggs tries, he's throwing bounce passes at our bigs feet and the ball is either getting deflected or the bigs cant do anything with it.

This is what I was saying to all the Felton haters. Felton brings good pg play to the table even when his shot is off. There is more to evaluating a pg than reviewing fg%.

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1/8/2013  12:02 PM
NUPE wrote:
Uptown wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:it's only one game but its a little concerning how the offense has reverted back to one on one ball. Bring the ball up to halfcourt and hand the ball to Melo to make plays. Knicks really miss Felton's creativity even with the 39% shooting. Also without Felton we are seeing JR and Melo not looking to get Amare involved for easy baskets. What was the point of having Amare, Melo and Tyson work with Hakeem if you are going to walk the ball up to chuck 30ft 3's all game? Camby will not remain the starter over Amare. Melo and Amare better figure out how to play together quick. Hopefully Felton is paying close attention and pulls the team together once he returns

This game magnified the importance of Felton on this team. Kidd and Prigs wilted under the full court pressure of the C's. It was ridiculous watching Priggs struggle the way he did, trying to bring the ball up the court which lead to us handing Melo and JR the ball way too soon in the offense.

Also, since Felton went down, our PNR offense has been non-existent. Felt and Chandler lead the league at one point with alley-oops which came directly off of the PNR. Without the PNR, we've relied on Melo and JR to bail us out quite a bit. Kidd cant run it, and when Priggs tries, he's throwing bounce passes at our bigs feet and the ball is either getting deflected or the bigs cant do anything with it.

This is what I was saying to all the Felton haters. Felton brings good pg play to the table even when his shot is off. There is more to evaluating a pg than reviewing fg%.

Pretty much. Also trying to figure out why everyone keeps harping on the fact that the Celts beat us without Rondo without acknowledging that our PG was out too?

Disclaimer:No, I'm not saying that Felton is as good as Rondo but he's an important piece to our puzzle.

ITs good to lose a game like this.

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