Clean wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Clean wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Well I feel bad for STAT he will probably get killed tomorrow. Brewer needs to sit and Copeland needs to play. Start James White snd Cope.

Stat had some moments (offensively) and will come around (I think)

Defensively, he was right back to game form

I am with ya there I rather start White and let brewer sit a few games.

white has shown zilch other than bad fouls

I would start Priggs and JKidd

Who would play off the bench at PG if they both are starting?

Exactly plus that's selling WHite a little short in the limited minutes he played he has shown that he will attack off the dribble, hit the open J, and can pass off the dribble. OH and of course foul but I will take him over Brewer because he can not score inside for some crazy reason this year. Which goes against his entire career.

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:So the gameplan every game is too get our ass kicked in teh first half and then have to claw back and come up short good plan woody

Don't forget chuck minimum 30 3s

uh ....

I think thats how Portland won.

Portland has no player who can create off the dribble consistently except maybe Lillard and he's a rook. Portland is also barely above .500. If you look at the teams in the Top 15 at 3FGA/gm you'll find some crappy teams to mediocre teams listed

You live and die by the 3. Portland had control the whole game and yet the game was still in the wane of decision.

Put the agenda aside and lates talk real basketball....Portland shot 50% from the field and outrebounded us by 10....Thats why we lost. Portland scored over 100pts which is how much we gave up in each of our last 5 losses I believe...

Agreed I don't think Portland won by game planning for 3ball play. At the same time we need to stop chucking up so many 3s and play better in the other areas of the game you mentioned.

If you haven't noticed in Nov we were shooting 44-46% from 3pt range as a team. The past month we're shooting about 36% as a team, which has us at 39% overall. Yes our 3pt shooting is a growing issue especially if a team is already poor at rebounding and we're missing more of them.

TeamBall wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:im so aggravated with the knicks right now. i mean up until the last two weeks they have been playing like they were in the 90's. I was starting to get excited and now the last few weeks they start playing games like this especially against teams they should beat

Whats frustrating is we know they can play defense. We've seen it. Knowing that they can, but wont, is annoying as hell.

who do you blame for our defense?

All of them (Woodson included) for not showing up from the start

hhhmmmm.

I was thinking that maybe you might blame chandler for being the primary culprit. Nah - let's blame the coach and Kidd and others whom we have no defensive expectations for.

mrKnickShot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:im so aggravated with the knicks right now. i mean up until the last two weeks they have been playing like they were in the 90's. I was starting to get excited and now the last few weeks they start playing games like this especially against teams they should beat

Whats frustrating is we know they can play defense. We've seen it. Knowing that they can, but wont, is annoying as hell.

who do you blame for our defense?

All of them (Woodson included) for not showing up from the start

hhhmmmm.

I was thinking that maybe you might blame chandler for being the primary culprit. Nah - let's blame the coach and Kidd and others whom we have no defensive expectations for.

The whole team didnt play defense

3G4G wrote:

NYDiva wrote:Carmelo can't seriously be getting knocked for missing that last three when he had a 45 point/7 board/4 assist game. And hit a clutch three on an earlier possession.

The team played horrible in the first half and didn't even really deserve the win, frankly.

Do you think he could have taken a better shot down 3 with 24sec? That's the only thing I'm jabbing him on.

Answer the question honestly instead of picking up your spear and shield

I've seen him hit those shots to tie and win games. The defender backed off a little, he had a look & took the shot. When he is hitting 50% from three (5 of 10) in a game to that point, I don't have a problem with that shot. I thought the Lillard shot was a much worse shot as Prigs was playing him well, but he hit it.

TeamBall wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:im so aggravated with the knicks right now. i mean up until the last two weeks they have been playing like they were in the 90's. I was starting to get excited and now the last few weeks they start playing games like this especially against teams they should beat

Whats frustrating is we know they can play defense. We've seen it. Knowing that they can, but wont, is annoying as hell.

who do you blame for our defense?

All of them (Woodson included) for not showing up from the start

hhhmmmm.

I was thinking that maybe you might blame chandler for being the primary culprit. Nah - let's blame the coach and Kidd and others whom we have no defensive expectations for.

The whole team didnt play defense

ah. last year our defensive player of the year won it because the team did not play defense (remember his comment (which was true)?).

SMH that so many will not blame Tyson when he has been brutally awful. We signed him and gave up our coveted amnesty for DEFENSE!

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:So the gameplan every game is too get our ass kicked in teh first half and then have to claw back and come up short good plan woody

Don't forget chuck minimum 30 3s

uh ....

I think thats how Portland won.

Portland has no player who can create off the dribble consistently except maybe Lillard and he's a rook. Portland is also barely above .500. If you look at the teams in the Top 15 at 3FGA/gm you'll find some crappy teams to mediocre teams listed

You live and die by the 3. Portland had control the whole game and yet the game was still in the wane of decision.

Put the agenda aside and lates talk real basketball....Portland shot 50% from the field and outrebounded us by 10....Thats why we lost. Portland scored over 100pts which is how much we gave up in each of our last 5 losses I believe...

Agreed I don't think Portland won by game planning for 3ball play. At the same time we need to stop chucking up so many 3s and play better in the other areas of the game you mentioned.

If you haven't noticed in Nov we were shooting 44-46% from 3pt range as a team. The past month we're shooting about 36% as a team, which has us at 39% overall. Yes our 3pt shooting is a growing issue especially if a team is already poor at rebounding and we're missing more of them.

You are right about about 3 point % declining over the weeks, With that said, I'm more concerned with our defense or lack thereof. Remember that putrid offensive game we had against the Pacers at the garden? We shot 7-25 from 3 and still won the game comfortably. Why? We hald them to 39% shooting and 76 pts.....The sooner we realize its defense and rebounding that is going to help us win ball-games the sooner we can stop nit-picking at an offense that still put 100pts on the board....

Killa4luv wrote:

3G4G wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Woody really drew up some smart ones.

Father Figured they'd go in

The Melo one was actually a good shot and the best they will get in that situation. Our best chance to tie.

Like it or not.

The JR one? Eeeeeesh.

24sec left plenty of time. Could have played for the 2 so I beg to differ that was the best shot he could get, especially since the basket prior to he went to the hole for an And1.

Typical Hero Ball type of shot

But as we've been told when you need someone to take the last second shot when the game is close you better have a Carmelo Anthony...

I hope fans are letting it sink in as I've always maintained....WE DON'T WANT TO PLAY GAMES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO A LAST SECOND SHOT

Instead I want to be leading the game by a few possessions if possible. Last second shots at best you're going to convert about 30% of them and those are of the elite players, which means you're clanking most for losses.

When Melo has 45% of our points, is shooting 68% from the field, 45% from 3, has 7 rebounds and 4 assists, you have to try really hard to blame him for this loss.

SO what I'm saying is, thanks for trying really hard. Ur effort isn't going unnoticed. hater.

Killa I'm not blaming him at all FACT remains he could have taken a better shot. Also by pointing out in the last seconds who do you want to have ball in hands mantra is more of an indictment on fans feeling that's the end all to be all if you have a player capable of coming through in Hero form.

I've always argued I don't want games coming down to last seconds shots. I think Jordan made a commercial saying he missed more game winning shots than he made. Are they memorable when converted, are they blissful, are they exciting? Yes but you want a game in hand because a team has played it fluidly throughout. We didn't tonight and lost. Melo gave everything he had just came up short and if it wasn't for him we probably never come back and remain blown out for the duration. Next time if it comes down to that I want to see him get off a better shot.