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Knixkik
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12/28/2012  1:31 PM
What do you think it is going to be in March for instance if everyone is healthy?
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ChuckBuck
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12/28/2012  1:34 PM
Once everyone is healthy and acclimated:

5 - Chandler
4 - Stat
3 - Melo
2 - Kidd
1 - Felton

My take at least.

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12/28/2012  1:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2012  1:34 PM
Starters:
Tyson
Amare
Melo
Shump
Felton

Closers:
Tyson
Amare
Melo
Shump or Smith...depending on off/def need
Kidd

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12/28/2012  1:57 PM
Tyson
Melo
????
Kidd
Felton

Honestly don't know who Woodson will start at small forward. The Team I would like to see is.

Tyson
Melo
JR
Shumps
Felton

Probably the best all around five we can start.

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12/28/2012  2:01 PM
Anji wrote:

Honestly don't know who Woodson will start at small forward. The Team I would like to see is.

Tyson
Melo
JR
Shumps
Felton

Probably the best all around five we can start.

Probably the worst team for brains and ball movement that we could put forth

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12/28/2012  2:03 PM
I think no matter what, you gotta have Jason Kidd in the starting lineup. Shump can play more minutes or whatever, but Kidd has to be there at the start and at the end of games.
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12/28/2012  2:03 PM
Best would probably be
Tyson
Melo
JR
Kidd
Felton or Prig

I'd try this at times too

Tyson
Amare
Melo
JR
Kidd

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12/28/2012  2:06 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:I think no matter what, you gotta have Jason Kidd in the starting lineup. Shump can play more minutes or whatever, but Kidd has to be there at the start and at the end of games.

absolutely!

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12/28/2012  2:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2012  2:11 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:I think no matter what, you gotta have Jason Kidd in the starting lineup. Shump can play more minutes or whatever, but Kidd has to be there at the start and at the end of games.

I think Kidd is better at the end of games. If the knicks want to compete with the Heat and Thunder in the playoffs, we are going to have to put our best two way team out there often IMO. Guys who can drive, kick and defend.

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12/28/2012  3:57 PM
This is pointless unless it's qualified by what level of Shump is here in March.

If he comes back in February and lights it up on both sides of the ball, has lost not a step who should really start at the two over him? JKidd should be used sparingly so he's got something left for the playoffs. JR has his role, making the bench extra nasty.

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12/28/2012  4:12 PM
jrodmc wrote:This is pointless unless it's qualified by what level of Shump is here in March.

If he comes back in February and lights it up on both sides of the ball, has lost not a step who should really start at the two over him? JKidd should be used sparingly so he's got something left for the playoffs. JR has his role, making the bench extra nasty.

I'm very curious to find out. A healthy 100% Shumpert is a scary good thought!

Either way we need Kidd's calm, experience, and IQ at the end of close games even at the cost of Shumpert.

Draining the 3 and forcing the refs to make a call:

Threading the bounce pass to JR:

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12/28/2012  4:13 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
jrodmc wrote:This is pointless unless it's qualified by what level of Shump is here in March.

If he comes back in February and lights it up on both sides of the ball, has lost not a step who should really start at the two over him? JKidd should be used sparingly so he's got something left for the playoffs. JR has his role, making the bench extra nasty.

I'm very curious to find out. A healthy 100% Shumpert is a scary good thought!

Either way we need Kidd's calm, experience, and IQ at the end of close games even at the cost of Shumpert.

Draining the 3 and forcing the refs to make a call:

Threading the bounce pass to JR:

Yup!

Shumpert is a solid defender but a weak offender.

gunsnewing
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12/28/2012  4:16 PM
Shump is not weak offensively. He can hit open shots. He has good form and his shooting improved by the end of the year. Rookies imprive
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12/28/2012  4:19 PM
Doesn't seem like we'll ever be fully healthy (each and every player wise). But...

C: Tyson Chandler.
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire.
SF: Carmelo Anthony.
2G: Iman Shumpert.
PG: Raymond Felton.

C: Marcus Camby.
PF: Rasheed Wallace.
SF: Steve Novak.
2G: J.R Smith.
PG: Jason Kidd.

11th, 12th and 13th = Chris Copeland, Pablo Prigioni, Ronnie Brewer.

Left out Kurt Thomas for our active 13 game day roster. But I could understand if someone wanted Kurt Thomas over the likes of either Rasheed, Copeland or Prigioni.

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12/28/2012  4:20 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Shump is not weak offensively. He can hit open shots. He has good form and his shooting improved by the end of the year. Rookies imprive

Shump does have really nice form on his J.

His decision making is weak but he is young.

We need a smart PG on the floor in crunch time. Just the simple genius of JKidd calling time out against the bobcats when JR was about to fling a 3 point mini prayer against the bobcats.

I don't have an issue with a back court of Kidd and shump in crunch time but I will lean to Kidd and JR as long as JR understands that he is the second option and Melo is the first.

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12/28/2012  4:24 PM
'when everyone's healthy'. i hope we see that for a good part of the season including the playoffs. at the moment, i worry.
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12/28/2012  4:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2012  4:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Shump is not weak offensively. He can hit open shots. He has good form and his shooting improved by the end of the year. Rookies imprive

9 points on 9 shots a game? His defense is great but let's call a spade a spade.
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12/28/2012  4:46 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Doesn't seem like we'll ever be fully healthy (each and every player wise). But...

C: Tyson Chandler.
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire.
SF: Carmelo Anthony.
2G: Iman Shumpert.
PG: Raymond Felton.

C: Marcus Camby.
PF: Rasheed Wallace.
SF: Steve Novak.
2G: J.R Smith.
PG: Jason Kidd.

11th, 12th and 13th = Chris Copeland, Pablo Prigioni, Ronnie Brewer.

Left out Kurt Thomas for our active 13 game day roster. But I could understand if someone wanted Kurt Thomas over the likes of either Rasheed, Copeland or Prigioni.

I'm not convinced KT in March is a great idea over a yoot in Cope, the intangibles of 3 to the PlateHead, and the third head of our PG Monster, should both Felton and JKidd break down.

Time for KT to bench coach from the IR.

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12/28/2012  6:47 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Shump is not weak offensively. He can hit open shots. He has good form and his shooting improved by the end of the year. Rookies imprive

9 points on 9 shots a game? His defense is great but let's call a spade a spade.

He is a rookie in a shortened season with no training camp ever.

Lin was shooting 37% he is over 40% now

Starting Lineup when everyone is healthy

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