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playa2
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12/25/2012  6:27 PM
When Kidd can't finish at the rim and Felton 's game is mentally overwhelming for him Prigs has the savy and experience to finish games by running the offense and keeping the ball moving making teams run around on defense. “He’s a playmaker,” Woodson said of Prigioni. “If you’re open, he’s going to find you. And he gets up into you defensively.” We needed that against Nash


In 2001, Prigioni joined the Spanish club Lucentum Alicante, and he played there until 2003. In 2003, Prigioni joined the Euroleague team Saski Baskonia. With Baskonia he won several titles, including: 3 Spanish King's Cups in the years 2004, 2006, 2009, 4 Spanish Supercups in the years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and the Spanish Championship in 2008.

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12/25/2012  6:31 PM
They call Pablo " The Maestro
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12/25/2012  7:39 PM
playa2 wrote:They call Pablo " The Maestro

He see's the floor when nothing is there and knows where people are.

It's time to test the waters on the road Prigioni for real backup minutes 20 min a game.

5 min a game isn't gonna cut it he camby and Dirty Kurty were the only ones with a plus in the +/- game.

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12/25/2012  7:45 PM
Doubt he should get 20 minutes per game, that's too much for a third stringer.
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12/25/2012  7:49 PM
When Felton is playing like he has the last month Prigioni should be taking minutes from him. Especially late.
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12/25/2012  7:53 PM
MSG3 wrote:When Felton is playing like he has the last month Prigioni should be taking minutes from him. Especially late.

Or...maybe trot out an actually starting lineup and quit with the mismatch stuff.

You can't have a lineup with three guys who can't create, in which two can't shoot at all, then complain that the pg shoots too much.

the team has been getting by, but the facade is losing it's luster, time to use a real lineup.

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12/25/2012  7:56 PM
Pablo's majot problem is he doesn't shoot enough... sounds better than Felton at the moment (and I'm a Felton fan)
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12/25/2012  8:06 PM
knickscity wrote:
MSG3 wrote:When Felton is playing like he has the last month Prigioni should be taking minutes from him. Especially late.

Or...maybe trot out an actually starting lineup and quit with the mismatch stuff.

You can't have a lineup with three guys who can't create, in which two can't shoot at all, then complain that the pg shoots too much.

the team has been getting by, but the facade is losing it's luster, time to use a real lineup.

The bet starting 5 they can send out currently is Kidd, Felton, Smith, Melo,
Chandler. But then your bench goes from ok to terrible.

That's why we've only scratched the surface so far. With stat and shump back we are the deepest team in the East.

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12/25/2012  8:16 PM
If they tell him to shoot he will, notice how much he shot against the spaniard Ricky Rubio when he went up against him. His 3pt shot is pretty good too, can you imagine when teams leave him open he become like Kidd on the perimeter knocking down shots.

All I'm saying is he needs is more than 5 min a game if not 20, Kidd is a sg now he cant finish at the rim anymore .

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12/25/2012  8:19 PM
MSG3 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
MSG3 wrote:When Felton is playing like he has the last month Prigioni should be taking minutes from him. Especially late.

Or...maybe trot out an actually starting lineup and quit with the mismatch stuff.

You can't have a lineup with three guys who can't create, in which two can't shoot at all, then complain that the pg shoots too much.

the team has been getting by, but the facade is losing it's luster, time to use a real lineup.

The bet starting 5 they can send out currently is Kidd, Felton, Smith, Melo,
Chandler. But then your bench goes from ok to terrible.

That's why we've only scratched the surface so far. With stat and shump back we are the deepest team in the East.


Nah, it really isn't, it worked for the most part but we all knew it was not sustainable.

Felton JR Melo Kurt Tyson works so much better.

Felton can't shoot as much having another scorer in the lineup and Tyson doesn't have to worry about being the first and last option on defense every possession.

Then you get some actually height and post defense with a few minutes of Kurt and Melo can do his thing in his natural role.

The bench only needs to match points at worst.

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12/25/2012  8:46 PM
Prigs is really not a 3rd stringer in ability, he's a backup. Jason Kidd is a sg/ sf defender not a true pg anymore.
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12/25/2012  8:48 PM
playa2 wrote:Prigs is really not a 3rd stringer in ability, he's a backup. Jason Kidd is a sg/ sf defender not a true pg anymore.

Please explain the first point, and the second I find rather funny, Kidd certainly is not guarding sf's.

Kidd is a backup regardless what guard position he plays, the only reason why Kidd starts is because felton can't run the point effectively by himself.

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12/25/2012  9:15 PM
knickscity wrote:
playa2 wrote:Prigs is really not a 3rd stringer in ability, he's a backup. Jason Kidd is a sg/ sf defender not a true pg anymore.

Please explain the first point, and the second I find rather funny, Kidd certainly is not guarding sf's.

Kidd is a backup regardless what guard position he plays, the only reason why Kidd starts is because felton can't run the point effectively by himself.

I'll take a go. Kidd is no longer a PG. He can't guard them and can not penetrate enough to cause defenses problems. I thing Prigs needs more times to get into the flow of the offense and he needs to play with a good screen setter or someone who knows how to slip s screen for him to go off. Does he pass to much yes but right now Felton needs a rest to get his hands right.

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12/25/2012  9:25 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
playa2 wrote:Prigs is really not a 3rd stringer in ability, he's a backup. Jason Kidd is a sg/ sf defender not a true pg anymore.

Please explain the first point, and the second I find rather funny, Kidd certainly is not guarding sf's.

Kidd is a backup regardless what guard position he plays, the only reason why Kidd starts is because felton can't run the point effectively by himself.

I'll take a go. Kidd is no longer a PG. He can't guard them and can not penetrate enough to cause defenses problems. I thing Prigs needs more times to get into the flow of the offense and he needs to play with a good screen setter or someone who knows how to slip s screen for him to go off. Does he pass to much yes but right now Felton needs a rest to get his hands right.


As a backup Kidd would do fine, he really isn't a starter anymore.
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12/25/2012  9:33 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:Pablo's majot problem is he doesn't shoot enough... sounds better than Felton at the moment (and I'm a Felton fan)
Yeah if he starts there is no way you can start Brewer. Not sure if you go big with Thomas at the 4 or move JR to the starting line up. Cope also could play the three.
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12/25/2012  10:10 PM
I would like to,see P.Prigioni get more PT but dude is a liability against the more athletic guards in the league
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12/25/2012  10:40 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:I would like to,see P.Prigioni get more PT but dude is a liability against the more athletic guards in the league
Yeah but Felton needs to rest and get right. His hands are a mess and his play hasn't been good.
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12/26/2012  6:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/26/2012  6:31 AM
knickscity wrote:
playa2 wrote:Prigs is really not a 3rd stringer in ability, he's a backup. Jason Kidd is a sg/ sf defender not a true pg anymore.

Please explain the first point, and the second I find rather funny, Kidd certainly is not guarding sf's.

Kidd is a backup regardless what guard position he plays, the only reason why Kidd starts is because felton can't run the point effectively by himself.

Prigioni could be the back up if Woodson would trust him more, the players love playing with him and he's not some 24 yr old rookie in the association he's 35 and has won championships as a starting pg overseas. He's a great ball hawker and he knows how to get players the ball where they want it.

I think as a rookie with these personalities he's taken a back seat on playing a complete game. When he went up against Ricky Rubio he was more aggressive offensively. Kidd was defending Kobe who was playing SF's in the game. Kidd just knows how to position himself against bigger players and he's pretty strong .
Give him more time and you will see our true pg emerge.

Woody played JR at the pg position when Felton went out of the game with a hand injury and that probably disturbed Pablo confidence a little bit.

Prigs is not the greatest defender , but you can be sure he knows how to play the position and is 4 yrs younger than Kidd and can finish at the rim. Kidd was getting his lob pass deflected just like Felton with the lack of ability to stay in the air and loop a pass around the last defender at the rim.

Prigs is the guy who convinced all knicks fans that he's a keeper, when he kept the ball moving while he was on the court during the 6 game winning streak.

Also Woody knows if he sits Felton in favor of Pablo during some crucial points of the game it would destroy Felton's confidence immensely.

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12/26/2012  8:23 AM
From ESPN : Mike Woodson has consistently defended Felton's shot selection, saying the point guard is taking shots that he has made in the past. The problem, of course, is that he hasn't hit them of late.

It's worth remembering that Felton has played a vital role in the Knicks' 20-8 start. And, despite his struggles, he has still done a solid job distributing and protecting the ball.

If he sat out, that would mean more minutes for Pablo Prigioni and would likely force Jason Kidd and J.R. Smith to handle the ball more frequently.

But given Felton's shooting issues, that might be something that benefits the Knicks.

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12/26/2012  8:28 AM
playa2 wrote:
Also Woody knows if he sits Felton in favor of Pablo during some crucial points of the game it would destroy Felton's confidence immensely.

We have one guard who shoots too much and another who declines an open shot.

One who takes the game too personally and the other with no ego whatsoever, just happy to be here.

Felton's confidence could use some destroying. Don't like the way he bristles at his coach and the refs. Control is the key for being a leader. Jason Kidd never flinches. We have enough volatile bickering with Melo and Chandler claiming innocence on every false move.

We also miss Rasheed's toughness more than ever. The inside was wide open for Gasol.

Gasol.

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