yep,

add Sweets to that playoffs vital list!

Posted by fishmike:

Def... your sounding like an idiot. Say we are all held to the same standards isnt a smart comment. These guys are managed differently than Bob from accounting and Joe from advertising. Sorry, thats a fact of life.

Also *speculating* that Frank isnt playing again because he doesnt want to or cant and attacking his character is pretty sad.

Did it occur to anyone that between missing time for a pulled groin then a death in the family it just didnt make sense to try an integrate Frank back into the rotation with 15 games left and the Knicks one or two losses away from missing the playoffs? Moochie isnt good and Frank has more talent but Moochie isnt terrible either. You can see he contributes when he gets enough time to develop a little rythm.

Sorry if I come off like an ass but attacking a guys character based on ones speculation just irritates me.

As I said in my original post on this, "if what you say is true, martin" meaning if Frank isn't playing because he is too sad to play. If there is another reason, like his injury or Wilkens doesn't need him or doesn't feel he's ready to play or anything else, then I'm not criticizing him. IF is a little word with a lot of power.

I will always fight against people getting special treatment because some tragedy befalls them. And, yeah, we should ALL be held to a common standard. I am acutely aware that we are not, but I will continue to fight for fair treatment of people based on their performance, not their social standing or personal problems.

If, and again I emphasize IF, Frank is not playing because of his mother's death, which was on March 2, then I say he should be waived. If it's because of something else, then I hope he gets back on the court soon. Can you wrap your mind around that concept? As Ayn Rand said, "Judge and prepare to be judged". I'll attack anyone's character who I think deserves it. Maybe Frank deserves it, maybe not, I'd like to find out. I'm extremely curious as to why the guy is not playing, when it seems obvious that the team needs as many guys to suit up as possible.

Too bad it irritates you. Cry me a river, pal.

Maybe it’s just me, but in a perfect world you should be given as much time as needed to deal with a personal tragedy. So yeah, we should hold everybody to the same standard, but how about make it a better rather than worse standard?

Holding everybody to a low standard is the Communist way man. They just made everybody poor rather then make everybody reach. Trust me I'm from a former Soviet republic, your rhetoric leads to nothing good. We should be striving to make it better for everyone rather then bringing down those who have risen through their talents, luck, or hard work to a higher level down to the common level so that everybody is the same.

Of course that is not realistic today, but in the future, it just may be. It is easy to just burn down the better house and built a shag in its place to make it just like yours. It is much harder to build your shag into the house you desire. It might even not be realistic. But maybe your children will be able to or your grandchildren. But you can't just give up and choose to bring everything down tot he lowest common denominator. 70 years of that sh**it made what once was one of the richest countries in the world (Russia) a joke of a nation.

Posted by fishmike:

go with what he said... I came off too harshly, there is something to be said for being subtle.

Nah, fish. For a $2 psychoanalysis of someone you don't know, I think you did a stellar job.

As for D&R's "communist" rhetoric, I think he's just the opposite-- his opinions are way towards the ultra-conservative right. "Fighting the battle against those who get special treatment" sounds alot more like Rush Limbaugh than Karl Marx.

Either way, it's patently un-American. But he's entitled to voice his opinion.

Posted by simrud:

Real life implementations of communism have very little to do with Marx, his take on it was a utopian fantasy. What actually ends up happening is an ultra right/left regime taking over. There is really very little difference between the extreme right and left when it comes down to their actual influence on the world. The gap between Communism and Fascism is but an inch. The basic idea is still to make everyone worse of in order to somehow standardize them into interchangeable units with no will of their own.

Wow. Lighten up, go have a slice of apple pie, or some Smirnoff Vodka or something.

Weren't we talking about the Knicks?

[Edited by - TRU on 03/30/2004 14:36:49]

My biggest concern besides making the playoffs... is resigning Baker and Demarr! We need to resign these guys BEFORE the playoffs. Their stock will sky rocket once we get into a 7 game series and they show what they got. If nothing else... at least it gives us more pieces to deal with... It would be a HUGEEEEE blunder to let these guys walk.. or resign in the summer... cause with a playoff run.. these guys .. especially Demarr.. will go where he will be payed a couple of Mil a year on a 3 or 4 year contract.

Hey, was anyone impressed with Moochie?

The guy handled himself well and wasn't killed on the defensive end. Both Mighty Mouse and Anderson could have eaten him alive.

Baker may have had the last minute shots, but I think the game ball should go to Moochie.

Posted by simrud:

I always liked DerMarr a lot, I wanted us to sine him from the beginning of the year. Baker looks very good out there, if he could only jump lol. If we can't get Sheed we should definitely sine him to the MLE. Also we should def keep Johnson. Unless we can somehow get a Quentin Richardson with a trade he is basically our future SG with Houston being about done for his career.

I am ALLLLL for singin Demarr... But NOTTTT for the MLE!
There is alot more talent ou tthere to be had for that price.
I am sick of overpaying for people to do what they are SUPPOSE to do on this team.. Play hard ball!
I say we sign him to veterans's mimimum on a 2 year contract....
Before he proves himself in the playoffs and he starts demanding more coin. I'm all for compensating him eventually.. but a few good outings does NOT merit close to 5 Million a year...

In a perfect world, if we can't sign Rasheed for the MLE, we can split it between Johnson and Baker. That's a perfect world and that might not happen. What is it going to be this year? 5 mil? It might work...