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Ian O'Connor is probably the worst Knicks writer on ESPN
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12/13/2012  10:24 AM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8741743/new-york-knicks-mike-woodson-embarrassing-los-angeles-lakers-mike-dantoni

Mike D'Antoni was asked by a reporter on Tuesday if he was embarrassed by his basketball team, a counterfeit contender that had just lost to the 4-17 Cavaliers, and the coach recoiled from the question.

D'Antoni claimed it was too harsh a word to capture his true feelings, and maybe, just maybe, he was telling the truth. But if he hasn't been embarrassed by his own Los Angeles Lakers, D'Antoni surely has been embarrassed by Mike Woodson's New York Knicks.

Right up until Thursday night's tipoff at the Garden, Woodson's predecessor will likely swear he's happy for the guy known around the league as Woody, the trusted voice on the bench D'Antoni abandoned last March when he couldn't persuade Carmelo Anthony and the Knicks to play with any of the passion they're playing with now.

Only human nature being what it is, D'Antoni can't possibly be thrilled his former assistant is making him look bad, as in really, really bad. Woodson is 34-11 since taking over the Knicks, 19-1 at home, numbers that mock D'Antoni and those forever apologizing for him.

At least one franchise that gave the thanks-but-no-thanks treatment to Phil Jackson survived it unscathed.

Woodson is on the books for up to $12 million, or half the value of D'Antoni's deal with the Knicks, and yet he has gotten twice the return out of his team by doing the two things any coach needs to do in pursuit of a parade:

(1) Inspire his superstar to play at the highest possible level; and (2) inspire his team to play hard on the blue-collar side of the ball.

They say defense wins championships for a reason, though D'Antoni has made a career out of trying to debunk the theory. His Knicks were in tear-down mode in Years 1 and 2, but plenty of coaches have endured painful periods of salary-cap purging without watching their undermanned teams allow opponents to run layup drill after layup drill (see Doc Rivers, Orlando Magic, 1999-2000).

D'Antoni's freewheeling offense was supposed to attract big-name recruits like you wouldn't believe, but the first star the Knicks landed didn't want to play for him again (Amar'e Stoudemire forgot about their desert dustups in Phoenix once the $100 million offer came in), and the second star the Knicks landed was one D'Antoni didn't want to coach (Jim Dolan finished off the Melo deal with Denver).

Out of left field Jeremy Lin tried his damnedest to save D'Antoni, but D'Antoni wouldn't be saved. One of the game's best offensive minds couldn't or wouldn't tweak his system to accommodate one of the game's best offensive talents, Anthony, and the Melo-or-me standoff met a predictable end.

Mike Woodson is 34-11 since taking over the Knicks from Mike D'Antoni -- and 19-1 at the Garden.
Anthony is much better at his job than D'Antoni is at his, so the Knicks had no choice long before D'Antoni made the choice for them. Rather than work out the problem with Anthony and fight to salvage a team that was 18-24, and 46 games under .500 in his three-plus seasons, D'Antoni did what coaches always say their players can never, ever do.

He quit. Rolled over and played dead. And nine months later, it's easier picturing his successor winning the NBA title than it is picturing him surrendering the way D'Antoni did.

Woodson is no Zen Master ("I'm not in Phil's category," he admitted), but the burden of trying to win New York's first title since 1973 doesn't have him hiding behind any skyscraper. "It's not something I'm afraid of, or scared of, or going to run away from," he promised.

Once upon a time the Knicks traded Woodson, their first-round pick in the 1980 draft, after his rookie season, traded him to New Jersey without so much as a phone call from Red Holzman. It's going to be a lot harder to get rid of him this time.

Anthony is playing MVP-caliber ball, in part because Woodson has moved him to take a Ray Lewis approach to defense (or something approximating that anyway). The Knicks are a tough and tenacious lot, in part because their Hoosier-born-and-bred coach was a tough and tenacious graduate of Bob Knight's school of very hard knocks.

"So when I got to the pros," Woodson said of his Indiana experience under Knight, "there wasn't a damn thing a coach could say or do to me that could rattle me."

In his early years as head coach in Atlanta, Woodson was never afraid to get in Josh Smith's face during heated exchanges in practice. He's not looking for confrontation with Anthony or the other big names in New York, but he's not necessarily looking to avoid it, either.

D'Antoni? He preferred to jump the likes of Landry Fields. Woodson doesn't do much barking over mistakes on the offensive end, where he believes in letting his players make or miss. But a blown defensive assignment will draw a sharp rebuke of Melo, J.R. Smith, even Tyson Chandler, reigning NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

So Woodson's Knicks embrace the all-for-one, one-for-all cause that didn't define D'Antoni's Knicks and doesn't define D'Antoni's Lakers. And while some would argue that Mr. Seven Seconds or Less could've used Woodson's on-court yoda, Jason Kidd, on his side last season to navigate the remaining 17 seconds on the shot clock, who's to say D'Antoni wouldn't have had a sub-.500 record with the Hall of Famer-to-be?

D'Antoni couldn't score enough points with Anthony on his team, and now he can't score enough points with Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard on his team. Magic Johnson is ripping him for extricating Pau Gasol from the low post ("That makes no sense," Johnson said), and Bryant is so baffled and discouraged by the 4-8 record under D'Antoni that he sent out yet another love letter to Jackson after the Cleveland loss ("I had a head coach who always kept calm and always focused on the X's and O's of things, and I learned from that," Bryant said very much in the past tense).

Now the defensively challenged Steve Nash, who turns 39 in February, is supposed to permanently save D'Antoni, just like Lin temporarily saved him last season. Good luck with that. But if the point guard does work wonders with the Lakers after returning from his broken leg, maybe people will finally realize that Mike D'Antoni was the product of the Steve Nash system, not the other way around.

Meanwhile, D'Antoni talks about his team throwing away possessions and "playing very uninspired basketball, offensively and defensively," before reminding himself he's the one paid handsomely to make sure that doesn't happen.

Woodson has no such worries. His players give away nothing, even after they get to bed at 5 a.m. at the end of a grueling road trip and rise in time to beat Denver for their fourth victory in five nights.

The Knicks are no mortal lock to beat the Lakers at the Garden on Thursday, and no lock to win it all this season or any season. But this much is already certain:

Unlike his predecessor, Mike Woodson isn't overmatched by the marketplace or the magnitude of the challenge that is the Knicks. He might lose his job someday, only not by rolling over and playing dead.


O'Connor is such a joke as a writer. Last season he blasted Melo to smithereens during the ordeal, defending D'Antoni to no end. Now all the sudden he's talking about Melo as MVP, and Woodson embarrassing D'Antoni.

Phucking bush league writer.

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12/13/2012  10:28 AM
Dude gets paid to write what people want to read.

He is entitled to his opinion.

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ChuckBuck
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12/13/2012  10:33 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Dude gets paid to write what people want to read.

He is entitled to his opinion.

True, it's all about the pageviews and hits.

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12/13/2012  10:59 AM
I usually I agree with you Chuck, but I think the writer made some valid points. Said some really nice things about Woodson. That's some turnaround to go from being unceremoniously let go by the team that drafted to being instrumental in making that team respectable again for the first time in more than a decade.
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12/13/2012  11:14 AM

People love to read that kind of stuff. Its part of sports and fans eat it up.

18-6 was good sample to compare but KNicks roster has had so many issues its really hard to compare fairly.

Felton was good for MDA. If MDA had him again, with Kidd who is playing great it would things be different?

Thats not a slant on Woody at all. Woodson has done a great job.

MDA is limping in with a Laker team that has two starters injured and a Knick team surging in contrast.

I think the media and fans are consistant in its over reaction and quick to rush to judgement on such stories.

I started to read it as it was posted but Im into reading that kind of crap. I don't read it when the knicks are the topic of despair and I won't read about other teams problems as if there pain is suppose to make me feel better.

The real story and the only story that interests me is the knicks fine play on the court.

Im hoping for a good game tonite!

I hope Kobe goes for 40 but knicks win by 10!

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12/13/2012  11:18 AM
GustavBahler wrote:I usually I agree with you Chuck, but I think the writer made some valid points. Said some really nice things about Woodson. That's some turnaround to go from being unceremoniously let go by the team that drafted to being instrumental in making that team respectable again for the first time in more than a decade.

It's not that article itself is bad, it's his stance and total 180 degrees from last year that is.

Last season during the D'Antoni/Lin/Melo ordeal, as soon as MDA resigned, he torched Melo constantly. Basically he was a MDA/Lin/Fields backer.

Now all the sudden, it's about face, and he's hurling bouquets at Melo and praising Woodson and throwing D'Antoni under the bus.

Not a badly written article, just Flip flop at it's finest.

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12/13/2012  11:26 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I usually I agree with you Chuck, but I think the writer made some valid points. Said some really nice things about Woodson. That's some turnaround to go from being unceremoniously let go by the team that drafted to being instrumental in making that team respectable again for the first time in more than a decade.

It's not that article itself is bad, it's his stance and total 180 degrees from last year that is.

Last season during the D'Antoni/Lin/Melo ordeal, as soon as MDA resigned, he torched Melo constantly. Basically he was a MDA/Lin/Fields backer.

Now all the sudden, it's about face, and he's hurling bouquets at Melo and praising Woodson and throwing D'Antoni under the bus.

Not a badly written article, just Flip flop at it's finest.

Got it.

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12/13/2012  11:45 AM
I mean, look, he's a writer, that's what writers do, I ain't mad at the ki'
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12/13/2012  11:48 AM
who acres what writers think. Charles Barkley si a different story because he really does have a personal agenda but who cares what O'Connor says. Also i dont care if Melo wins the mvp. If we win the nba title that is all I want
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12/13/2012  11:59 AM
Anyone's supposed to care what Barkley thinks because he has a personal agenda? Why not care about people with brains and a personal agenda? Bill Russell. Jerry West. Donnie Walsh. These are serious basketball people to worry about.

Writers are paid to write, unlike us, who are just wasting company time until lunch starts.

O'Connor and Berman and whoever else will praise Linsanity and then shoot holes in him when he's down.

Woody's a perennial playoff loser with underachievers in Atlanta, and now he's John Wooden.

Melo was a team-killing, coach-eating, future-destroying cancerous pariah, and now he's MVP of the Milky Way.

The Knicks were the dark stuff on the underside of the rim of your toilet that you never bother to look at. Now we're a top five team in the league.

Things change. Agendas change. Viewpoints change.

The media itself always remains an overall suhucking constant.

Watch the games, enjoy!

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12/13/2012  12:03 PM
jrodmc wrote:Anyone's supposed to care what Barkley thinks because he has a personal agenda? Why not care about people with brains and a personal agenda? Bill Russell. Jerry West. Donnie Walsh. These are serious basketball people to worry about.

Writers are paid to write, unlike us, who are just wasting company time until lunch starts.

O'Connor and Berman and whoever else will praise Linsanity and then shoot holes in him when he's down.

Woody's a perennial playoff loser with underachievers in Atlanta, and now he's John Wooden.

Melo was a team-killing, coach-eating, future-destroying cancerous pariah, and now he's MVP of the Milky Way.

The Knicks were the dark stuff on the underside of the rim of your toilet that you never bother to look at. Now we're a top five team in the league.

Things change. Agendas change. Viewpoints change.

The media itself always remains an overall suhucking constant.

Watch the games, enjoy!

Um you misinterpreted me. I hate Barkley. My point was i AGREE with people who get mad at what Barkley says about us
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12/13/2012  1:17 PM
Show me a sports journalist who doesn't flip flop, and I'll show you a GOOD JOURNALIST.

I'd have more respect for someone who is honest about their dislike for a team (despite how well they are doing at the time) than someone who insults the intelligence of the public by expecting us to actually believe that they are sincere.

I detest fickle people. These reporters are supposed to be objective, but most don't try to hide their innate disdain for the Knicks. They cater to the haters and fickle fans, all of whom can go to hell, by the way. That goes for Barkley, too.

This is just as bad as Steven A. Smith's flip-flop, sucking on the Knicks after he said earlier in the season that The Nets were a better team. These Sports media people lack the dignity to show loyalty to their own words.

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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12/13/2012  1:20 PM
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:Show me a sports journalist who doesn't flip flop, and I'll show you a GOOD JOURNALIST.

I'd have more respect for someone who is honest about their dislike for a team (despite how well they are doing at the time) than someone who insults the intelligence of the public by expecting us to actually believe that they are sincere.

I detest fickle people. These reporters are supposed to be objective, but most don't try to hide their innate disdain for the Knicks. They cater to the haters and fickle fans, all of whom can go to hell, by the way. That goes for Barkley, too.

This is just as bad as Steven A. Smith's flip-flop, sucking on the Knicks after he said earlier in the season that The Nets were a better team. These Sports media people lack the dignity to show loyalty to their own words.

Thing is that the public IS pretty stupid, I wouldn't give general population above 100 IQ

Reporting is never objective, this is some old fallacy, that is some ideal

Smart man adapts with times, it is the extremist ideologue that sticks with some point to no end, and he is not a successful person

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12/13/2012  1:24 PM
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:This is just as bad as Steven A. Smith's flip-flop, sucking on the Knicks after he said earlier in the season that The Nets were a better team. These Sports media people lack the dignity to show loyalty to their own words.

So true. No respect for that man

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12/13/2012  1:28 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Anyone's supposed to care what Barkley thinks because he has a personal agenda? Why not care about people with brains and a personal agenda? Bill Russell. Jerry West. Donnie Walsh. These are serious basketball people to worry about.

Writers are paid to write, unlike us, who are just wasting company time until lunch starts.

O'Connor and Berman and whoever else will praise Linsanity and then shoot holes in him when he's down.

Woody's a perennial playoff loser with underachievers in Atlanta, and now he's John Wooden.

Melo was a team-killing, coach-eating, future-destroying cancerous pariah, and now he's MVP of the Milky Way.

The Knicks were the dark stuff on the underside of the rim of your toilet that you never bother to look at. Now we're a top five team in the league.

Things change. Agendas change. Viewpoints change.

The media itself always remains an overall suhucking constant.

Watch the games, enjoy!

Um you misinterpreted me. I hate Barkley. My point was i AGREE with people who get mad at what Barkley says about us

Sorry dude. Your post read like we shouldn't care what writers say, but we should care about what Barkley says.

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12/13/2012  1:51 PM
Don't have a problem with the article, nor the fact that o'conner flipped on MDA/Melo. At the time that MDA left the Knicks, many if not most blamed it on Melo for various reasons. MDA was made to be a martyr due to evil Melo & even more evil Dolan. Now there is more data for the writer to opine and write about. Woodson took the same roster and was able to make them perform at a much higher winning percentage (albeit for less overall games played than MDA). Woodson seemed to be able to connect better and motivate his star player....which did not seem to be the case with MDA. Further data shows that so far MDA is failing with the Lakers, without two starters. While Woodson is succeeding in New York, without two starters.

The main point seems to be that focus and accountability by a head coach on Defense and not Offense is the difference maker. I agree with this sentiment.

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12/14/2012  9:48 PM
It's so nice to be able to look back and see what a douche coach MDA was in practice, and how different a different coach is with a different roster. And I've never been an MDA lover at any point.

So O'Connor expects us to believe he sat through Knick practices recording how many times MDA got ugly with his scrub starters as opposed to his starphuchs? How the eff would he know?

Give me a break. Troll writing on the bandwagon.
Typical NY Media.

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12/15/2012  2:35 PM
Woodson has clearly outcoached MDA but let's be honest Melo is playing much much better to put it lightly. Credit to Woody for motivating him. Plus D'Antoni had the worst backcourt in the league before Lin erupted. If MDA had this team Melo would probably be out of shape missing a lot more jumpers but He'd really get the Ray and Tyson pick n roll going even better than its been. Without Raymond I bet under MDA we'd be scraping by at .500. D'Antoni is pretty useless as a coach without a penetrating PG.
Ian O'Connor is probably the worst Knicks writer on ESPN

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