GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Panos wrote:Grunny for exec of the year! Believe it.
+1 and Woody coach of the year def!
WOODY IS DEFINITELY GETTING COACH OF THE YEAR IF THIS KEEPS UP! However just to speak truth... D'Antoni says Your Welcome for the offense! No one can deny where this offense came from. If you do your just lying to yourself. But Woody has done a GREAT job with this team and having them ready almost every night. Grunwald did his thing this summer too. All the people laughing at the Knicks age are quiet right now.
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Just speaking truth. Doesn't mean Woody is any less a great coach for this team. If anyone wants to ignore the truth so be it, but you know in your heart i'm right.
In my heart I know that you spent 4 years acting like MDA walked on water, couldn't point out one single thing he did wrong in that entire span but now you want Woodson to share credit with MDA in the Knicks success. Do you understand how hypocritical that is? If it is MDA's system why couldn't MDA make it work in the slightest? Was it all everyone else's fault?
exactly can't take him seriously because of the clear bias
Do you really want to try and confuse the issue here? I'm not saying Woody hasn't done a great job. I just made a simple observation, which is that the Knicks have been winning with basically MDA's offense. Unless you have some kind of technical break down of how this isn't MDA's offense to share. It's to Woody's credit that he didn't just trash all of MDA's stuff, when it's clear that this team needed to still make use of that offense with the makeup of the team. That's not taking credit away from Woody it's just the TRUTH!!! Woody has a better roster with 3 high level PG's and more overall depth so he should be able to do even better than he did last year, which he clearly is. It's not about why MDA failed, it's about how Woody is succeeding and what he's doing right!!!
I don't see SSOL, I don't see poor shot selection for the most part, I don't see lousy defense, I don't see a coach who lets leads kill the team in the first half, I don't see a coach who can't make adjustments, the right substituition, I don't see a coach who is running his players into the ground. So no, I don't see D'Antoni's hand in this team's success.
The only similarity I see is a reliance on the 3 pt shot, not enough for me to thank D'Antoni for anything but 4 years of misery as a Knicks fan.
You are WRONG! Don't get caught on SSOL since in NY MDA never ran SSOL anyway. He mostly used his halfcourt offense. You bring up D when I never said anything about that. Like most you just don't get what i'm talking about. Woody has Felton, Kidd and Prigs, so you won't see poor decision making and that is clearly an improvement over what this team has had in the past. Woody has done a great job with his personnel , rotations and substitutions. It's FAR easier to do that when you have quality players at every position. He's got a fully committed Melo and overall I think Woody is better at relating to his players. My points have NOTHING to do with Woody's coaching on the bench or practice. I merely made the point that this offense is basically MDA's offense and if you push me i'll do a breakdown and show you just how that's true. That's not what tonight is really all about, but as a side note it is the truth.
Push you? You can't even be pushed to admit that D'antoni made one single mistake in his entire tenure as a Knicks coach. If I could push you to do anything it would be that. I honestly believe this team would still be hovering around .500 if he was still here with the same personnel. You make it sound like relying on the 3, spacing, and ball movement never existed before D'Antoni. As for decision making, Woodson gets on his players about poor shot selection, MDA just said "keep shooting".
It's OK. You can keep thinking this is about MDA and what he didn't do, when that isn't what I was pointing out at all. I've made myself clear on what I think MDA did wrong, but I don't have to prove that to you, go look for it yourself.
You don't have anything to refute what i'm saying because you know it's true. Woody said himself that he was keeping a lot of what MDA was doing. We thought we'd see more posting than this, but this team has had to make use of the 3 more without STAT who Woody figured to use more in the post. Not that he was going to have STAT post exclusively, but that would have at least added another player who could go inside a bit more. We lead the league in taking 3's for a reason.
This was a GREAT win and a win that can't be tarnished in any way because of the circumstances. As I said earlier, 2nd day of a bac2bac, on the road, in Miami where they were undefeated and without Melo, STAT and Shump. NOTHING anyone can say.