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OT: How does the NBA stop flopping from having an impact on the game?
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cooch2584
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11/30/2012  9:28 AM
There must be a better way to stop this.I say that it must be reviewed during the game. Those extra points or possessions to the team flopping swings the score and Im sure somewhere down the road this is going to decide the outcome of an important playoff game. Thoughts?
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11/30/2012  9:43 AM
They can call it in game the same way they go back and review three pointers if they suspect it may have been a two.

They definitely need to review them on scoring plays that are taken back due to flopping a player into an offensive foul.

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11/30/2012  9:45 AM
cooch2584 wrote:There must be a better way to stop this.I say that it must be reviewed during the game. Those extra points or possessions to the team flopping swings the score and Im sure somewhere down the road this is going to decide the outcome of an important playoff game. Thoughts?

The only way I can think of is that they employ a couple more guys to sit at the scorers table and specifically watch for certain plays they think may be flops and then they take note of it (like shots with a foot on the line). Then, during a dead ball or the half, the refs would watch and give a tech for that flop if it is one. There would still be a lot of problems with this though like off the ball plays which are hard to catch and the usual ref bias.
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11/30/2012  11:17 AM
I know Im gonna catch flack to mention this but how about a "review flag" like football? In the Knicks game the other nite, when wallace did a flop to Melo and we lost the ball,that was at a critical time in the game. What happens in a game 7 situation with a title on the line? In crucial games each point and possession counts, take away a teams possession because of a flop and reward the other team just sounds so stupid. Also,the league fines a player for flopping,that makes a lot of sense when the guy at the end of the bench is making like 700k. IMO the penalty for a flop in a game hasta be immediate. If a player flops and it is reviewed using the "review flag" and it is found to be a flop, the flopping player should get a tech and the other team shoots free throws, and get possession. I betcha that would stop flops completely.
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11/30/2012  11:28 AM
I could see a coach,any coach, telling a marginal player "kobe has 3 fouls and we are in the 3rd qt. Go out there and see if you can flop and draw that 4th foul on kobe,if you get fined dont worry the team will pay the fine." Is this conceivable to you guys? I dont think stern has a grip about how important WINNING is to a team and the above situation could be played out by ALL teams.
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11/30/2012  11:29 AM
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cooch2584 wrote:There must be a better way to stop this.I say that it must be reviewed during the game. Those extra points or possessions to the team flopping swings the score and Im sure somewhere down the road this is going to decide the outcome of an important playoff game. Thoughts?

The only way I can think of is that they employ a couple more guys to sit at the scorers table and specifically watch for certain plays they think may be flops and then they take note of it (like shots with a foot on the line). Then, during a dead ball or the half, the refs would watch and give a tech for that flop if it is one. There would still be a lot of problems with this though like off the ball plays which are hard to catch and the usual ref bias.

The refs are biased?? NAAAA/GREEN FONT

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11/30/2012  11:38 AM
cooch2584 wrote:I know Im gonna catch flack to mention this but how about a "review flag" like football? In the Knicks game the other nite, when wallace did a flop to Melo and we lost the ball,that was at a critical time in the game. What happens in a game 7 situation with a title on the line? In crucial games each point and possession counts, take away a teams possession because of a flop and reward the other team just sounds so stupid. Also,the league fines a player for flopping,that makes a lot of sense when the guy at the end of the bench is making like 700k. IMO the penalty for a flop in a game hasta be immediate. If a player flops and it is reviewed using the "review flag" and it is found to be a flop, the flopping player should get a tech and the other team shoots free throws, and get possession. I betcha that would stop flops completely.

I was talking with a friend of mine about the rule and I told him the NBA should give a team 2 challenges like in Football. My friend said that the NBA will only implement rules that leave them some wiggle room to save their stars from penalty. It kinda made me think..

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11/30/2012  12:37 PM
I don't think you need to add more rules, just increase the penalties.

You Flop 5 times and you miss a game, 8 times 2 games, every other at 10 is a 1 game suspension.

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11/30/2012  12:47 PM
Anji wrote:I don't think you need to add more rules, just increase the penalties.

You Flop 5 times and you miss a game, 8 times 2 games, every other at 10 is a 1 game suspension.
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And this helps how??

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11/30/2012  12:48 PM
Anji wrote:I don't think you need to add more rules, just increase the penalties.

You Flop 5 times and you miss a game, 8 times 2 games, every other at 10 is a 1 game suspension.

And this helps how?

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11/30/2012  1:04 PM
cooch2584 wrote:
Anji wrote:I don't think you need to add more rules, just increase the penalties.

You Flop 5 times and you miss a game, 8 times 2 games, every other at 10 is a 1 game suspension.

And this helps how?


Coaches don't want to lose players for things in their control.

When coming off the bench during altercations didn't cost games, players did all the time. They did it evey time. Now that it cost games, every coach on the bench tells their players what to do.

Every coach telling all their players not to flop is more effective than throwing flags or adding booth refs.

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11/30/2012  2:27 PM
Anji wrote:
cooch2584 wrote:
Anji wrote:I don't think you need to add more rules, just increase the penalties.

You Flop 5 times and you miss a game, 8 times 2 games, every other at 10 is a 1 game suspension.

And this helps how?


Coaches don't want to lose players for things in their control.

When coming off the bench during altercations didn't cost games, players did all the time. They did it evey time. Now that it cost games, every coach on the bench tells their players what to do.

Every coach telling all their players not to flop is more effective than throwing flags or adding booth refs.

So your going to tell me that a coach isnt gonna have a player flop if a coach can win a division title or a championship? I dont understand that logic,its all about winning and doing ANYTHING TO WIN.

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11/30/2012  2:56 PM
well there should be a few less fouls slowing down the game.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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11/30/2012  3:09 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:well there should be a few less fouls slowing down the game.

What does this mean?

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11/30/2012  3:40 PM
cooch2584 wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:well there should be a few less fouls slowing down the game.

What does this mean?

some of the fouls that are called are the result of flopping. If the fines cause fewer people to flop, there should be slightly fewer fouls called. Does that make sense....not sure if I'm doing a good job expressing the point

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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11/30/2012  3:52 PM
Penalty should be you have to spend a weekend in the summer with KG. Eat all meals and work out with him getting eat up by mesquitos.
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11/30/2012  5:21 PM
If there is contact and you try to draw attention to it, that's not flopping, that's fine in my book. It's the flops without contact that are a problem, and they've been addressed with the current anti-flopping rules.
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11/30/2012  9:49 PM
Seems like some of the posts relating to this are just too brief in explanation,but thats ok maybe I just got into it too deep.
OT: How does the NBA stop flopping from having an impact on the game?

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