What a ridiculous game. I think Knicks came in with a holier-than-thou attitude and got beat down hard.

ramtour420 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:We've now lost two consecutive but at the same time I just love the fact that we actually have an actual team to pull for. A contending team. Been a long time coming for old school Knick fans throughout the early to enitre 90'. Even these Houston announcers more than predicted a Knicks/Heat Eastern Conference Finals matchup. They more like stated as such. We've im[ressed out of the gates to say the least.

I'm loving the fact that we have a team full of talent, veteran leadership, the deepest bench depth in the game today (close with the Clippers when fully healthy), the ability to improve overall once landing a defensive freak in Shumpert along with an explosive offensive threat in Amar'e. An offensive threat down low, will free up our key players on the wings. Take some pressure off. Say what you say about Stoudemire's overall game, but basketball is a team game and he'll, without question, help out our Guard's more ways than one.

We're 8-3 overall after getting our ass kicked up and down the court tonight. Our defense melted down. It's a regular season game and we forgot to bring our defense. Let's see how our players respond to Woodson moving forward. Houston ran through us tonight. Does that make them a better team? No. Every NBA team will have game(s) in which they get their ass kicked; that's basketball and/or team sport's. To make a long story short, some (fans) just don't understand the history of Knicks basketball and/or basketball as a whole. It's nice to expect great things to come, such as myself and lots of others. But it's another to destroy the coaches, players and franchise after a tough loss such as this one (Houston). We have a very good team to root for moving forward. An actual true Eastern Conference contending team.

Basketball has returned to the Mecca. I'm proud of that. The Knicks have finally returned. I'm loving that fact. I'll never allow/give a single regular season loss only 11 games into the season, the opportunity to ruin a good time for myself and family (as fans). Told my wife, these games happen you know. She fully understands. Told my lil daughter our Knicks have the chance to respond against the Pistons at home in M.S.G; She has no idea what I'm talking about. Just likes to give high fives during the games. We're losing tonight, and losing bad, but yet I'm still giving her high fives in order to teach her that basketball is created in order to have fun (as a family in my case), but not to become a depressed person due to sports. I currently see too many angry Knick fans around here (and everywhere online) and/or too many love you when you're up/kick you while you're down types throughout our fan base. Just thankful that I can grasp the fact that we're actually 8-3 overall after a loss on the road.

Thank you. Very mature and very true. That's what I should have done. Instead I got very upset and very emotional and now I am in a crappy mood.

I know how it is. But at the end of the night? It's a game you know. Any time I'm upset about our Knicks in which I've loved since childhood days, I just think about life in general. Hopefully I witness a championship, but I'm willing to wait and see until the day I'm dead and gone before quitting on a championship dream. As a Knicks and Jets fan that's something that I've never seen. But at the end of the night, there's lots to be thankful for including thanksgiving meals. Little stuff like that, that may not be so little to others. The Knicks winning ball games is an outstanding feeling, it's something that we've (all) enjoyed since childhood days. The feeling of victory. That's what makes us fans. But when it's all said and done, to have the ability and mind set to carry yourself like you've been there before, even after loses, is the types of stuff that I pay attention to after tough loses.

We started off 8-1, which was something this Franchise hasn't seen in over (I believe) 40 years. 93-94 was the best start I've ever seen. And this current Knicks team got out the gates even faster/stronger overall. Beat the likes of the Heat and Spurs. Shown an ability to bounce back after a loss against the Pacers following the Grizzlies loss. Have beat the teams in which we were expected to beat; the 76ers (2x), Dallas, Orlando, Indy and New Orleans. But yet, because of consecutive loses this thread "doesnt belong here". I, as a sports fan, shouldn't be proud of our franchise and/or our franchise history due to one loss? To each his/or own. So be it. But at least (then) list off 10 Knick teams, during our proud franchise history, in which have started 8-3 or better. Followed by mentioning how far those teams went during the postseason, final regular season standings etc, etc. Then maybe you'd have that right to mention the fact that this is a stupid thread and/or shouldn't have been created due to a blowout loss.

I'm proud of these current Knicks, even after a blowout loss, because the season is a journey and after 11 games we're the number one seed of the Eastern Conference followed by Miami, Brooklyn, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Charlotte and Boston. Chicago, Orlando, Indy etc, etc. But yet we as fans shouldn't mention the fact that we're first place of our conference after a "only" loss 11 games into the season. Followed by those same naysaying critics, then becoming nothing more than hypocritical (negative critics) in which then bash the team due to one or two loses, all because one just so happened to be a "blowout". Doesn't this then give me the right to say that it's "only been" one blowout loss? What about our other 8 victories outside of this 1 loss? That leaves them with the Memphis Grizzlies game. Let em have at it should now become my thought process. They'll dig until they can no longer dig. And then they'll forget the recent past before digging some more. Regardless of which New York forum it's on. When your team loses? The recent past will become a distant memory and the hate threads and post's will begin to appear like never before. It's like they just won a championship.

The 6-0 start is history. What matters now is we are 2-3 in our last five games and playing horrible basketball, especially on defense.

The bar has been raised for this team. We are no longer hoping to win 48 games and make it to the second round. We have a forgiving six-game stretch coming up. I want to see us get back to where we were earlier in the season and beat up on some of these upcoming opponents.

Travla wrote:It was just one of those games. Every team has 3 or 4 a season, even good teams. Houston shot very well and there was little the Knicks could do. Did the Knicks play top line defense....No....but I think it would have mattered. Woody will get them back in line, that I'm sure of. Lets move on to the next game.

Last game was one of those games too.

With that said, our beloved Knicks could use a refresher course in ball rotation. Houston's spacing was superior. Depending on Carmelo is NOT an effective strategy and the standing around is becoming contagious. Expect Jason Kidd to have a few conversations in the back of the team bus.

gunsnewing wrote:Is it a knee jerk reaction when you point out bad trends the team has been going through since they were 6-0? Now they are 2-3 and have to clean up the defense if they want to make a run this year

The fact that the Knicks are 8-3 with a crew that is still getting acquainted is cause for celebration. This is a work in progress whose results cannot be measured until February.

Trust is not learned in ten games. We have only seen a glimpse of what this potential team can do. There are many quality opponents doing the same thing. Anyone who thinks that ANY game is a guaranteed win, just because they show up wearing "New York" on the jersey, is a fool. Especially on the road.

Hit the open man.

misterearl wrote:Bad Trends

gunsnewing wrote:Is it a knee jerk reaction when you point out bad trends the team has been going through since they were 6-0? Now they are 2-3 and have to clean up the defense if they want to make a run this year

The fact that the Knicks are 8-3 with a crew that is still getting acquainted is cause for celebration. This is a work in progress whose results cannot be measured until February.

Trust is not learned in ten games. We have only seen a glimpse of what this potential team can do. There are many quality opponents doing the same thing. Anyone who thinks that ANY game is a guaranteed win, just because they show up wearing "New York" on the jersey, is a fool. Especially on the road.

Hit the open man.

It's true that we should be thrilled with this record. But when we loose a gme like last night because of poor effort there should be pause. Knicks have elevated expectations due to teamwork, unselfishness and great D. All of that has regressed. I don't want to hear the time to get acquainted excuse. They looked plenty acquainted before this trip. There will be ups and downs. As
long as they can learn from this they'll be fine. But last night was troubling.