We are worried about the effect Amare's return will have on the defense but there is legitimate concern that it causes a negative domino effect. The system works best when the players fit

gunsnewing wrote:He makes a great point. When Amare returns and Melo shifts back to SF where Brewer is now, will the Knicks be able to rotate the way they are doing now? Is Melo quick enough? I think the reason the rotations have worked so far is because of the quickness of Brewer, JR, Kidd and Felton. Right now Melo is having no problems with keeping up with bigger guys. Can he chase smaller/quicker players around?

We are worried about the effect Amare's return will have on the defense but there is legitimate concern that it causes a negative domino effect. The system works best when the players fit

yea, that is why I am skeptical of all of the talk about the knicks being 6-0 without amare, thinking that we will be that much more dangerous when he gets back..

well that may be true, but there will be adjustments that must be made.. I can't wait for amare to get back, and woodson has his hands full trying to make all of these pieces work...

Basically BrewervsMelo and MelovsStat from a drop point of view, I don't think it will work the same. Basically your going from a plus defender that cover for other positions and Player who cover his own area to having a player who can cover his own and a player you hope can cover his own area.

I think the knicks should target Milsap in the off season.

Anji wrote:
I think what hubbie pointed out is that will the defense still be this good with Melo having to always chase the three's with zero breaks from guarding bigs and will Amare make the rotations that this team has been making at all. Basically BrewervsMelo and MelovsStat from a drop point of veiw, I don't think it will work the same.

I think the knicks should target Milsap in the off season.

We have $76M tied up in 10 players next year so anyone we target in free agency has to be willing to accept either the veteran's minimum or the $3M mini-MLE. There's no reason at all for Millsap to accept a below-market offer like that.

yellowboy90 wrote:Ask Leonard? Its not like he is just playing bigs. He is switching on 1s,2s,3s, and etc and guarding them all well.

That's what said, but then you from having two guys that do that with BrewerMelo to Melo has to work harder to make sure Amare isn't doing that.

Hubbie didn't sound like a believer.

VCoug wrote:

Anji wrote:
I think what hubbie pointed out is that will the defense still be this good with Melo having to always chase the three's with zero breaks from guarding bigs and will Amare make the rotations that this team has been making at all. Basically BrewervsMelo and MelovsStat from a drop point of veiw, I don't think it will work the same.

I think the knicks should target Milsap in the off season.

We have $76M tied up in 10 players next year so anyone we target in free agency has to be willing to accept either the veteran's minimum or the $3M mini-MLE. There's no reason at all for Millsap to accept a below-market offer like that.

Knicks aren't signing anybody for the next three offseason, Sign and Trades are how things will be done around here.

tkf wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

fishmike wrote:Amare isnt a me first player. He will make it work

i agree he is not a me first player but his lack of defense hurts and the spacing with him and tyson is still an issue

something has to give.. amare is not a great defender but neither is carmelo by any stretch, or novak or even JR.... but you have to get him on the floor at some point and make it work.. Hold him accountable.. no defense no playing time... he will either give the effort or don't play.. but it is up to woodson to actually have the balls to yank and sit him.. which I know woodson will get in your face, but will he actually sit you?

3G4G wrote:

tkf wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Anji wrote:
I think what hubbie pointed out is that will the defense still be this good with Melo having to always chase the three's with zero breaks from guarding bigs and will Amare make the rotations that this team has been making at all. Basically BrewervsMelo and MelovsStat from a drop point of veiw, I don't think it will work the same.

I think the knicks should target Milsap in the off season.

We have $76M tied up in 10 players next year so anyone we target in free agency has to be willing to accept either the veteran's minimum or the $3M mini-MLE. There's no reason at all for Millsap to accept a below-market offer like that.

absolutely not at all... I like milsap but that is a pipe dream..

lolmnop!!!!

This just goes to show how distorted a fan(possibly fans) views are on our future. Look you're not going to get a player of Milsap's caliber who's in his prime to come here and settle on a $3mil deal especially not at extended yrs. Not to mention he can get that anywhere in this league and probably get a promise to start at least on a half dozen of teams.

Think more along the lines of adding guys like Kidd/Sheed maybe a Josh Howard/Pietrus type of player which are not rebuilding bright future type of pieces.

This why this board is so great, same handful of posters circle jerking a single post to get their grim view out about the knicks.

I said nothing about signing Millsap to the Vet or MLE.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

tkf wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

fishmike wrote:Amare isnt a me first player. He will make it work

i agree he is not a me first player but his lack of defense hurts and the spacing with him and tyson is still an issue

something has to give.. amare is not a great defender but neither is carmelo by any stretch, or novak or even JR.... but you have to get him on the floor at some point and make it work.. Hold him accountable.. no defense no playing time... he will either give the effort or don't play.. but it is up to woodson to actually have the balls to yank and sit him.. which I know woodson will get in your face, but will he actually sit you?

ya but jr and melo have plaed outstanding defense since woody took over. Now im still willing to give Amare a chance

As far as amare, I certainly want to give him a chance, I am a huge fan of the guy, but I am also trying to be realistic and honestly, defense or not, when healthy he brings a dynamic we just don't have right now as a jump shooting team.... I really, really hope he is healthy..

Anji wrote:

3G4G wrote:

tkf wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Anji wrote:
I think what hubbie pointed out is that will the defense still be this good with Melo having to always chase the three's with zero breaks from guarding bigs and will Amare make the rotations that this team has been making at all. Basically BrewervsMelo and MelovsStat from a drop point of veiw, I don't think it will work the same.

I think the knicks should target Milsap in the off season.

We have $76M tied up in 10 players next year so anyone we target in free agency has to be willing to accept either the veteran's minimum or the $3M mini-MLE. There's no reason at all for Millsap to accept a below-market offer like that.

absolutely not at all... I like milsap but that is a pipe dream..

lolmnop!!!!

This just goes to show how distorted a fan(possibly fans) views are on our future. Look you're not going to get a player of Milsap's caliber who's in his prime to come here and settle on a $3mil deal especially not at extended yrs. Not to mention he can get that anywhere in this league and probably get a promise to start at least on a half dozen of teams.

Think more along the lines of adding guys like Kidd/Sheed maybe a Josh Howard/Pietrus type of player which are not rebuilding bright future type of pieces.

This why this board is so great, same handful of posters circle jerking a single post to get their grim view out about the knicks.

I said nothing about signing Millsap to the Vet or MLE.

When you said "target" Milsap

Did you mean pursue him with a bunch of Physical "Target" Gift Cards or "Target" E-Gift Cards? With Monopoly Money? What?

Okay so who is getting S&T to the Jazz for Milsap a la Camby to Houston.... from the existing Championship team? Are you talking about giving up more picks(swap picks) in the process?

VC broke it down to you from a Cap Perspective. Did you bother to cap/cba fact check?