Then on the second unit you move Stat to the 5 like he was in PHX and put Sheed in at the 4, I suppose you can slot Campy at the 5, Stat at the 4 and Sheed at the 3. Either way I think Amare is best used as the scoring on the second unit - this way you have the firepower of Melo and Stat and neither of them have to worry about adjusting their games to each other.

I know a lot of people think Amare will come back as a starter and that he should because he makes big $$$ and he is Stat. But seriously, its time for LJ to sit him down and talk about career longevity and re-creating himself. We don't know if he will come back as the same player but I think with the right adjustments we can get 2 more productive years out of him barring anything career ending.

I love Stat and it doesnt matter to me if he is a starter, I will always see him as a talented basketball player.

Here's how it goes down:

Center
Chandler: 30, the jumper was a nice decoy. He is injured in January and misses 2-3 weeks.
Camby: 12 (6 each in the second and early fourth quarters) He will turn his ankle in January but be ready for the playoffs
Sheed: 12 good minutes in the third quarter. Could easily run with the starters during Chandler's January injury. Being 6'11 helps too.

Forwards
Carmelo: 38, he jams his wrist in February at The NBA All Star Game. Out 4 weeks.
Thomas: 10-15, once his shot starts to drop, Prigioni will find him even more during Carmelo's time on injured list.
Brewer: 30, steady surprise.
Novak: 16
Amar'e Stoudemire is not walkin' through that door anytime soon. Not convinced he can play Woodson's defense.

Guards
Felton: 28, averaging 9 assists per game by January
Kidd: 18 (split between first and fourth quarters)
Prig: 20 (split between second and third quarter)
JR Smith: 24, if he gets hot, better give him some room.

Shump sits until next season. ACL are nothing to rush back from. Chicago would be wise to do the same with Rose.

Best five finish.

VCoug wrote:
You're crazy if you believe Stat is going to be a benchwarmer when he's healthy.

Read my lips. Amare Stoudemire is not walking through that door. He could be done.

VCoug wrote:You mean health wise? That's different but I don't think I agree with you. As long as he comes off the bench and his minutes are used wisely I believe that he'll be able play until at least his early to mid thirties.

VCoug - the signs regarding Amare Stoudemire and his past surgeries are not encouraging. Rather than assuming he will magically reappear the same player he was is not wise. Basketball players endure significant pain under normal circumstances, let alone after multiple surgeries.

One afternoon, on a game day, I had the opportunity to visit the trainers room of a NBA franchise. It was not pretty. There were men seated everywhere being treated for various aches and pains. The point? Behind the scenes, there is much more going on with treatment than most fans ever see... and that is for the players considered "healthy."

Amare Stoudemire has been pounding those knees for more than a decade of heavy-duty use. He is coming off another surgery. Rather than expecting him to return again, it would be a blessing that he is able to walk erect, and without a cane, ten years from now.

misterearl wrote:You Don't Have Your Health, You Got Nothin'

VCoug wrote:You mean health wise? That's different but I don't think I agree with you. As long as he comes off the bench and his minutes are used wisely I believe that he'll be able play until at least his early to mid thirties.

VCoug - the signs regarding Amare Stoudemire and his past surgeries are not encouraging. Rather than assuming he will magically reappear the same player he was is not wise. Basketball players endure significant pain under normal circumstances, let alone after multiple surgeries.

One afternoon, on a game day, I had the opportunity to visit the trainers room of a NBA franchise. It was not pretty. There were men seated everywhere being treated for various aches and pains. The point? Behind the scenes, there is much more going on with treatment than most fans ever see... and that is for the players considered "healthy."

Amare Stoudemire has been pounding those knees for more than a decade of heavy-duty use. He is coming off another surgery. Rather than expecting him to return again, it would be a blessing that he is able to walk erect, and without a cane, ten years from now.

I don't believe that he'll be the same player he was in Phoenix or his first half-season with us. But, I do believe that if his minutes are limited to under 30/game and he comes off the bench instead of starting he can still be a valuable player for us.

VCoug wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

misterearl wrote:Nice work Bernard. Howsineva, you ALWAYS must account for things being less than perfect. This is Knicksland, where one should ALWAYS expect the unexpected.

Here's how it goes down:

Center
Chandler: 30, the jumper was a nice decoy. He is injured in January and misses 2-3 weeks.
Camby: 12 (6 each in the second and early fourth quarters) He will turn his ankle in January but be ready for the playoffs
Sheed: 12 good minutes in the third quarter. Could easily run with the starters during Chandler's January injury. Being 6'11 helps too.

Forwards
Carmelo: 38, he jams his wrist in February at The NBA All Star Game. Out 4 weeks.
Thomas: 10-15, once his shot starts to drop, Prigioni will find him even more during Carmelo's time on injured list.
Brewer: 30, steady surprise.
Novak: 16
Amar'e Stoudemire is not walkin' through that door anytime soon. Not convinced he can play Woodson's defense.

Guards
Felton: 28, averaging 9 assists per game by January
Kidd: 18 (split between first and fourth quarters)
Prig: 20 (split between second and third quarter)
JR Smith: 24, if he gets hot, better give him some room.

Shump sits until next season. ACL are nothing to rush back from. Chicago would be wise to do the same with Rose.

Best five finish.

You're crazy if you believe Stat is going to be a benchwarmer when he's healthy.

You're crazy if you can actually say (or type) the words "when he's healthy"

Healthy is relative and I don't believe he'll ever be completely healthy. I should have written "when he's healthy enough to play again."

Either way, Woody ain't stupid. He will not start or play if he is hurting the team. He is not owed or entitled to anything. 100 million dollar golden parachute is more than enough.

Now - Tyson/ Carmelo/ Brewer

Later - Camby/ Thomas/ Novak

Big Ups - Chandler/ Sheed/ Camby (yes, Camby can get out on a three)

The Pine Brother Ball - Sheed/ Copeland/ White

yellowboy90 wrote:

OasisBU wrote:Could Tyson and Camby form a twin tower duo similar to Duncan and Robinson or is the lack of scoring too much?

Then on the second unit you move Stat to the 5 like he was in PHX and put Sheed in at the 4, I suppose you can slot Campy at the 5, Stat at the 4 and Sheed at the 3. Either way I think Amare is best used as the scoring on the second unit - this way you have the firepower of Melo and Stat and neither of them have to worry about adjusting their games to each other.

I know a lot of people think Amare will come back as a starter and that he should because he makes big $$$ and he is Stat. But seriously, its time for LJ to sit him down and talk about career longevity and re-creating himself. We don't know if he will come back as the same player but I think with the right adjustments we can get 2 more productive years out of him barring anything career ending.

I love Stat and it doesnt matter to me if he is a starter, I will always see him as a talented basketball player.

Id Stat is knocking down his jumper he is fine and would work great in the line up. Woodson and the coaches had a plan for Amar'e. Carmelo, and Tyson to work together and should give it a go. I really think they tried to work on their two man game with Melo and STat and we saw it some last year after Woodson took over and briefly in the pre-season.

I doubt you'll ever see Camby and tyson on the floor together once amare get back..For 1 the league Has to many teams that go small..But I love the idea of sheed and amare for stretches..I think you can get so creative with this line up cause it's so many guys that can play 2 positons effectively on both ends..