25)Jerry Lucas - Helped Knicks win a title in '73
24)Tyson Chandler - DPOY 2012
23)Bob McAdoo - Alltime Knicks leader in scoring average
22)Anthony Mason - Toughness and braun mixed with skill personified
21)Bill Cartwright - All Star with the Knicks, and teamed with Ewing for NY's own Twin Towers
20)Carl Braun - Prolific scorer/sniper
19)Richie Guerin - 6 Time Knicks All Star, Top 10 in pretty much every franchise category
18)Larry Johnson - Even with his explosiveness robbed, was clutch. 4 point play, 'nuff said.
17)Amare Stoudemire - Was MVP for half a season. Career injuries finally caught up with him.
16)Mark Jackson - "Action" Jackson was ROY and was the best PG to come out of NYC.
15)Harry Gallatin - 7 Time All Star and HOF'er
14)Latrell Sprewell - Made his short time with the Knicks count. Aside from Houston's runner, Sprewell's playoff run in '99 is what Knicks fans remember.
13)Carmelo Anthony - Acquired via Megatrade, has made the Knicks "his team". Put on some big performances during the regular season and playoffs. Best is yet to come.
12)John Starks - Aside from 2-18, was the spark plug, the heart, the yang to Patrick Ewing's Yin.
11)Charles Oakley - The Enforcer. The epitome of toughness. "No layup rule".
10)Dick Barnett - Crucial cog of 2 Knick title teams
9)Dick McGuire - New York through and through. Standout at St John's and 7 Time All Star with the Knicks
8)Allan Houston - Albatross contract aside, was a clutch performer, and had one of the purest strokes in league history
7)Bill Bradley - Dollar Bill. High Basketball IQ, owner of 2 rings with the Knicks.
6)Dave Debusschere - Grit and determination for days. NBA Champion and world class gentleman.
5)Bernard King - Melo before Melo. His Knicks career will forever be a "What if" with the crippling knee injuries that robbed him of his prime with Patrick Ewing
4)Earl Monroe - Pearl was silky smooth with the rock. Teamed with Clyde Frazier to create one of the most dynamic back courts in NBA history
3)Willis Reed - "The Captain". Whenever you need inspiration, you look at clips of the Game 7 entrance by Reed against the Wilt led Lakers.
2)Patrick Ewing - "Big Fella" Franchise leader in almost every category. Fell oh so short of that elusive ring, twice. True definition of a warrior.
1)Walt Frazier - "Clyde" The bigger the game, the better he performed. Owner of 2 rings and outlandish style points. Smooth on and off the court. "Swishin and Dishin!"

Fail

Amare is questionable but the team was on his back and he carried them until injuries.

Mray20 wrote:This list is based on a combination of talent and accomplishments not one or the other, as far as talent Melo and Amare belong on the list they are the only 2 true superstars this team has had since Patrick Ewing.

If this is true, and based on their career then Lucas is top 7. If based on being a knick, he is top 15. He was here I think 2 seasons but two trips to the finals filling in for Willis and winning should count for a lot.

Michael Ray richardson as a knick was amazing. The first player in NBA history to lead the league in both assists (10.1) and steals (3.2), setting Knicks franchise records in both categories.

He had more impact than Melo or Amare as a relevant Knick.

Amare and Melo are great players but have yet to be great knicks. Not saying they don't belong on the list but just not sure where and certainly not ahead of Jerry Lucas!

Mray20 wrote:This list is based on a combination of talent and accomplishments not one or the other

Nalod wrote:

Mray20 wrote:This list is based on a combination of talent and accomplishments not one or the other, as far as talent Melo and Amare belong on the list they are the only 2 true superstars this team has had since Patrick Ewing.

If this is true, and based on their career then Lucas is top 7. If based on being a knick, he is top 15. He was here I think 2 seasons but two trips to the finals filling in for Willis and winning should count for a lot.

Michael Ray richardson as a knick was amazing. The first player in NBA history to lead the league in both assists (10.1) and steals (3.2), setting Knicks franchise records in both categories.

He had more impact than Melo or Amare as a relevant Knick.

Amare and Melo are great players but have yet to be great knicks. Not saying they don't belong on the list but just not sure where and certainly not ahead of Jerry Lucas!

Don't think you want an anti-semitic crack head in your ring of honor.

Bling is important, as is length of service and role to the team. Players with deep playoff runs and roles in memorable games are important. What the player did as a knick is what is important. Reason why McAdoo, AMare and Melo are lower on the list. I listed guys with individual awards. They rank high.

1)Walt Frazier -

2)Willis Reed - Two time finals MVP, season MVP and ROY.

3)Patrick Ewing - One ring and an MVP and he could have been no. 1! Our best player but not greatest Knick.

4)Dave Debusschere - I move him up because he was the final piece of the puzzle, played 7-8 seasons as a knick, retired a knick, has two rings, guarded Wilt at times in the finals, and was on the podium when we got the Ewing envelope.

5)Earl Monroe - By no means Am I dissing him here. He has one ring and two trips to the finals. His best years was before NY where he was the man in Balitimore and was unstoppable. IM judging his knick career.

6)Bill Bradley - Dudes with Rings and long knick careers carry a lot of weight. Bill is in the Hall of fame. His story is awesome! Brush up on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bradley

7)Jerry Lucas - I keep wanting to put Bernard here but again guys with Bling get the nod. Willis was out most of 72' season and this cat hung 16.7 pts per game, 13.1 rebounds and 4.1 assists. Knicks lost in finals but Luke had to play Jabbar, Unseld and Wilt in the playoffs! He played 3 seasons for us but had a monster year that carried us to the finals and the next year as a role player won.

8)Dick Barnett - Starting 2 for the 70 team. Multiple all star and put in 9 years. Was a reserve role on the 73' team but when he opens his jewlery box he has two rings smiling back at him!

09)Dick McGuire- This guy had all kinds of records and was the best player of his knick generation. He was the face of the franchise. PLayed his college ball at ST. Johns in the golden era also.

10) Harry Gallatin - 7 Time All Star and HOF'er as a knick!

11)Charles Oakley - I keep him here because he helped define the era aside of Ewing. Had a long KNick run with meaningful games!

12)Bernard King - The reason he drops here is his body of work as a knick is very brief. He basically played three seasons. His most amazing year was a 55 game season before he fell. He was great in his short time but he just did not accomplish much. "What if" is not a reason to move him ahead alone. Emotionally he should be higher. Look at his knick stats: httphttp://://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=KINGBE01

13)John starks- also helped define the Ewing era with his grit and important games played. "The Dunk", "Headbutt Reggie"!

14)Richie Guerin - 6 Time Knicks All Star, Top 10 in pretty much every franchise category. Speaks for itself

15)Willie Nauls- 4 time allstar with great PPG avg! http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=NAULLWI01

16)Allan Houstan- The shot. Great knick!

17)Carl Braun - 10 years in the dead ball era at a time guys did not usually last 10 years. Some good teams back then.

18)Latrell Sprewell-4.5 years a knick with two great playoff performances. He could be listed after starks as well.

19)Larry Johnson- Stat wise not that great but helped define an era and went to battle in memorable games. The 4 pt play!

20)Mark Jax- ROY and a 5 year knick! Made playoffs all 5 years!

21) Nat "Sweetwater" Clifton-Forget the stats, he was our first center and first black knick! Look him up.

22) Michael Ray Richardson: Might have been better than Magic johnson! First player to ever lead league in assits and steals.

23) Jumpin Johnny Green-3 time knick allstar!

24) Tie- Bill Cartwight/Walt Bellamy/Tyson Chandler: First Knick DPOY!

25) Tie- Melo, Mcadoo and AMare: The starphuchers with great stats but nothing accomplished with no meaningful games. All star players and high volume scorers who have small samples. Melo should move up the latter into the top 15 with a few seasons and a deep run or two in the playoffs. Him and Amare have yet to have a defining knick moment.

Honorable mention: Mase, Derek Harper, Maurice Cheeks, Phil Jax, Marcus Camby, Charlie Ward, Dean Meminger, Chris Childs, Cazzie Russell, Howard Komives, DLee, Xavier Daniels, John Gionelli, and Linsanity. We think them for contributions as role players or providing thrills over the years!

So in order for Carmelo to be the #1 Knick he needs

1 Ring plus Finals MVP
1 MVP
All NBA 1st Team- 1 time
All NBA 2nd Team- 2-3 times
1 scoring title
Multiple Playoff Series wins
a 50 Point game

*note*-has to beat LBJ in a series as well