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3G4G
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10/26/2012  4:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  5:15 PM
Amar'e Stoudemire is seeking a second opinion to determine the severity of the left knee injury that could keep the Knicks power forward sidelined for the first month of the NBA regular season.

Stoudemire is consulting with Phoenix Suns orthopedic surgeon Dr. Thomas Carter, according to a Suns source. Dr. Carter performed microfracture surgery on Stoudemire's left knee in 2005. It is customary, and in some cases encouraged by teams, that players get a second opinion from an independent physician.

The Knicks team doctors discovered that Stoudemire suffered a ruptured cyst on his left knee during last week's exhibition game against the Toronto Raptors. The timetable given by the Knicks for Stoudemire's return is two to four weeks but the same source says a more plausible timetable is four to five weeks.

Under that scenario, the Knicks will be without their second leading scorer for most of November when they'll play 15 games in the month, including nine on the road.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/amar-seek-opinion-injured-knee-article-1.1193217


I believe I said a few days ago....Amar'e when receiving his $100mil from us should have ported Suns team Doctors to New York and paid them half his salary. This is pretty interesting. I'd imagine if Amar'e felt good with mild discomfort and was told to sit out 2-4weeks he'd do it. Not saying second opinion is out of the norm but I'm leaning on the side Amar'e doesn't feel right and wants to be fixed long term, although does he or we have long term timetable? Not sure if I'm buying casual arthritis in his knee.
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10/26/2012  4:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  4:48 PM
Not a surprise. Always prepare yourself for the worst

JR has been out for weeks with supposedly "sprained ankle" Others have said it was his achilles

On Amare the Knicks never stated what caused the cyst which leads me to believe it was arthritis and will continue to be an issue long term. Which is why Wally suggested playing him 25mins per game because he's been through it. Shocked Wally hasn't been fired yet
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10/26/2012  5:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  5:40 PM
Ya see Knicks buying time as usual. He's already been out 2 weeks. Now they will announce that he will miss the entire month of November
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10/26/2012  5:06 PM
I think we should sign Brandon Roy to a fifty million dollar deal. Perhaps he can (also) make us relevant again.
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10/26/2012  5:13 PM
Where you at NUPE.....
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10/26/2012  5:26 PM
Seems to be just standard stuff with an injury like this. Why wouldn't a player get a 2nd opinion when it comes to a knee he had surgery on for a very serious problem? The Cyst itself may not be a serious ongoing issue now that it burst, but there may be other more serious issues going on and i'd like to know for sure that nothing is being missed. This isn't about Knick doctors verses Suns doctors. It's silly to think that somehow there are no competent docs in NY. I think if you have trust with a doc that knows your medical situation more intimately than it only makes sense to go back to that doctor to have him take a look at it again.
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10/26/2012  5:32 PM
nixluva wrote:Seems to be just standard stuff with an injury like this. Why wouldn't a player get a 2nd opinion when it comes to a knee he had surgery on for a very serious problem? The Cyst itself may not be a serious ongoing issue now that it burst, but there may be other more serious issues going on and i'd like to know for sure that nothing is being missed. This isn't about Knick doctors verses Suns doctors. It's silly to think that somehow there are no competent docs in NY. I think if you have trust with a doc that knows your medical situation more intimately than it only makes sense to go back to that doctor to have him take a look at it again.


The fact initial reports went from 2-4 to 5-6weeks tells you this isn't some routine get back to mend type ish.


Also why has J.R. Smith missed so much time over a reported sprained ankle? Has he consulted a second opinion when there are reports could be his achilles? He's only doing half court contact in practice
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10/26/2012  5:37 PM
Maybe he's consulting Suns doctor after going through the ordeal with his back with our doctors over a season and a half....who knows
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10/26/2012  5:40 PM
3G4G wrote:Maybe he's consulting Suns doctor after going through the ordeal with his back with our doctors over a season and a half....who knows

Maybe he is consulting with the doctors who told him to add 20 pounds last year during the lockout (being that he could not talk to team docs).
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10/26/2012  5:42 PM
3G4G wrote:
nixluva wrote:Seems to be just standard stuff with an injury like this. Why wouldn't a player get a 2nd opinion when it comes to a knee he had surgery on for a very serious problem? The Cyst itself may not be a serious ongoing issue now that it burst, but there may be other more serious issues going on and i'd like to know for sure that nothing is being missed. This isn't about Knick doctors verses Suns doctors. It's silly to think that somehow there are no competent docs in NY. I think if you have trust with a doc that knows your medical situation more intimately than it only makes sense to go back to that doctor to have him take a look at it again.


The fact initial reports went from 2-4 to 5-6weeks tells you this isn't some routine get back to mend type ish.


Also why has J.R. Smith missed so much time over a reported sprained ankle? Has he consulted a second opinion when there are reports could be his achilles? He's only doing half court contact in practice

I find that troubling and problematic. Was looking forward to seeing Amar'e play this year. Hope this is not an ongoing thing.
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10/26/2012  5:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  5:58 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
3G4G wrote:Maybe he's consulting Suns doctor after going through the ordeal with his back with our doctors over a season and a half....who knows

Maybe he is consulting with the doctors who told him to add 20 pounds last year during the lockout (being that he could not talk to team docs).

His back was blowing out before the off-season Knicks Doctors got to him first and/or neglected him to the degree he may have been steered Suns doctors way....Take your pick

(I'll qualify this and state the NBA put a strict rule in place for teams to have no contact with any NBA players under contract. I understand this to be team officials from any team, if Doctors are included)

If he's consulting the same Doctors who contributed to his back going Hernia do we want them talking to him about his knee since there isn't 100% vested interests? This doesn't bother me he's going to those familiar with his situation but it does raise concern since his recovery timeline has changed.

Don't look now Grant Hill is already injured with the Clippers was pretty much Health free in Phx past 3yrs yrs.


So maybe just maybe your Ace of Heart doesn't beat my 2 of Spades here.... I'm out of hearts bruh?
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10/26/2012  5:51 PM
It makes sense because you want the doc's who operated on you to take a look to make sure the knee is still the same which was operated on...The Suns doc's have more familiarity with the condition of his knee than Knick docs one would think...That said, it really not comforting that he needs a second opinion...This reeks of Antonio McDyess all over again...
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10/26/2012  5:53 PM
MEH! When it comes to the human body all these healing projections are somewhat arbitrary. Everyone is different in how they heal. Not all injuries are the same. The window shifting isn't a big deal to me at this point. He heals when he heals. I just hope this is as minor as they believe it to be. A more serious problem is the last thing Amar'e or the Knicks need. Until I hear something different i'm not going to panic.
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10/26/2012  6:19 PM
I pray this doesn't turn into another microfracture surgery for Amare otherwise this is Allan Houston 2.0
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10/26/2012  6:27 PM
holfresh wrote:It makes sense because you want the doc's who operated on you to take a look to make sure the knee is still the same which was operated on...The Suns doc's have more familiarity with the condition of his knee than Knick docs one would think...That said, it really not comforting that he needs a second opinion...This reeks of Antonio McDyess all over again...

Yep. Like I said a few months ago. Maybe the Knicks will compete in 2033 when Dolan is dead. Sure as hell not contending for a title this decade. Keep in mind we have 1 playoff win during the previous decade
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10/26/2012  6:31 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Where you at NUPE.....

It is a bit early to scream "I told you so." LoL!
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10/26/2012  6:32 PM
its unreal if you are a mets/jets/knicks fan it the same thing when it comes to injuries at the worst time
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10/26/2012  6:36 PM
Could be worse. You could be a Net fan
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10/26/2012  6:40 PM
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Source says Stoudemire not visiting Phoenix. Suns orthopedist he knows just checking out his MRI picture. Done quite a bit.
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10/26/2012  6:52 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Where you at NUPE.....

LOL

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