He and his agent have now made the obvious known, he ain't taking the minimum. Definitely not from us.

This is what happens when you pay a 72yr old point guard $4mil and a 71 1/2yr old center $4mil and a shooting specialist who's sometimes a statue $4mil and a point guard with a beer belly $4mil.

I don't blame K-Mart but I hope he gives us the J.R. Smith discount at the end of the day. We so could use him to shore up our front court

Meanwhile teams like the Clippers/Nets are cleaning up signing Min guys. Players pretty much only want to play here to get paid or the fame, nothing has changed until we change.

gunsnewing wrote:Not the end of the world

It's not but we are somewhat thin with our bigs. If any one of them gets hurt then the world will end.

3G4G wrote:According to Hoopshype Current Headline

He and his agent have now made the obvious known, he ain't taking the minimum. Definitely not from us.

This is what happens when you pay a 72yr old point guard $4mil and a 71 1/2yr old center $4mil and a shooting specialist who's sometimes a statue $4mil and a point guard with a beer belly $4mil.

I don't blame K-Mart but I hope he gives us the J.R. Smith discount at the end of the day. We so could use him to shore up our front court

Meanwhile teams like the Clippers/Nets are cleaning up signing Min guys. Players pretty much only want to play here to get paid or the fame, nothing has changed until we change.

yea, we set such a bad precedent with some of these signings.... why should he take less, this could very well be his last contract, and he is younger than both kidd and camby, he is not looking to take a cheap deal....

I'd still love to have him as a backup but I can see a team offering him a little more.

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:According to Hoopshype Current Headline

He and his agent have now made the obvious known, he ain't taking the minimum. Definitely not from us.

This is what happens when you pay a 72yr old point guard $4mil and a 71 1/2yr old center $4mil and a shooting specialist who's sometimes a statue $4mil and a point guard with a beer belly $4mil.

I don't blame K-Mart but I hope he gives us the J.R. Smith discount at the end of the day. We so could use him to shore up our front court

Meanwhile teams like the Clippers/Nets are cleaning up signing Min guys. Players pretty much only want to play here to get paid or the fame, nothing has changed until we change.

You realise we were over the cap? So according to you we shouldn't of signed Camby, Kidd or Felton (they wouldn't have taken the minimum) so that we would still be over the cap and unable to sign k-mart? That doesn't even make sense.

And what clipper players do you crave? Injury prone problem guy matt Barnes? You want josh Childress from the nets?!

It makes perfect sense what I'm saying

We always pay the maximum of what a player is asking for or what the market could suggest. It almost never happens we sign players to reasonable fair deals, instead we go over the top every single chance we get, except when we don't want to sign young players or extend them

We gave Amar'e $100mil in Free Agency all of what he wanted and what he could get. Like almost $30mil more than what Phx was willing to pay

We gave Melo an $85mil extension all of what he wanted and what he could get

We gave Chandler $58mil which may have been around $5mil less what GSW offered, but it's once again the richest contract Chandler has ever made in his entire NBA career

We gave Novak not a 3yr deal or 2yr deal no a 4yr deal and more money than he's ever made in his entire NBA career put together

We gave Felton not a 1 or 2yr deal(with second yr as a PO) no we gave him 3yrs and this is after signing him on a 2yr deal 2yrs prior to at $13.5mil once again more money than what Charlotte was willing to give him

We gave Kidd all of what Dallas was offering 3yrs $9-10mil

We gave Camby all of what he wanted 3yrs $13-15mil

We gave Chris Duhon a 2yr deal for $11.5mil when Orlando was only going to pay him 2yrs $7.5mil

We gave Curry and Crawford $60mil contracts 6yrs in length, without conditions

J.R. Smith probably wants nothing more than for this year to be over so he can sign for 4yrs max of whatever he can make

See the trend here? The only positives is that Camby's deal isn't fully guaranteed, but he gets $10mil of the $13.2mil as a guarantee. That's it!

So he's making $5mil per for 2yrs. Start naming how many 40yr olds are currently making $5mil/yr or who have made this much at that age any period of time in the NBA. The names should be rolling off your tongue rapidly.

Then add the fact the salaries we're paying on the latter signings come with Tax implications, which means we're paying even more above the norm on a yearly salary for them. In Camby's case we're also paying Toney's Douglas salary with trade executed and other assets given up. TROLOL you add it up, it's as if Camby didn't take a hit in asset value compared to his last year $8.5mil salary in Portland. For Seriously for a 40yr old?

And I don't want to hear you have to pay to get or keep talent. If that's the case why did Duncan/Dirk/Love/Parker/Ginobli/Garnett/Pierce/Rondo/Horford/Noah/Aldridge take less for their respective teams..... and for most of these guys all they did was win at the highest levels or had instant impact on their franchises once they showed up.

ChuckBuck wrote:HEY HEY! The dead horse belongs in the other thread...

we dragged that sorry ass dead horse over here!!!

I have a new whooping stick and my arms are rested.... LOL

3G4G wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

3G4G wrote:According to Hoopshype Current Headline

He and his agent have now made the obvious known, he ain't taking the minimum. Definitely not from us.

This is what happens when you pay a 72yr old point guard $4mil and a 71 1/2yr old center $4mil and a shooting specialist who's sometimes a statue $4mil and a point guard with a beer belly $4mil.

I don't blame K-Mart but I hope he gives us the J.R. Smith discount at the end of the day. We so could use him to shore up our front court

Meanwhile teams like the Clippers/Nets are cleaning up signing Min guys. Players pretty much only want to play here to get paid or the fame, nothing has changed until we change.

You realise we were over the cap? So according to you we shouldn't of signed Camby, Kidd or Felton (they wouldn't have taken the minimum) so that we would still be over the cap and unable to sign k-mart? That doesn't even make sense.

And what clipper players do you crave? Injury prone problem guy matt Barnes? You want josh Childress from the nets?!

It makes perfect sense what I'm saying

We always pay the maximum of what a player is asking for or what the market could suggest. It almost never happens we sign players to reasonable fair deals, instead we go over the top every single chance we get, except when we don't want to sign young players or extend them

We gave Amar'e $100mil in Free Agency all of what he wanted and what he could get. Like almost $30mil more than what Phx was willing to pay

We gave Melo an $85mil extension all of what he wanted and what he could get

We gave Chandler $58mil which may have been around $5mil less what GSW offered, but it's once again the richest contract Chandler has ever made in his entire NBA career

We gave Novak not a 3yr deal or 2yr deal no a 4yr deal and more money than he's ever made in his entire NBA career put together

We gave Felton not a 1 or 2yr deal(with second yr as a PO) no we gave him 3yrs and this is after signing him on a 2yr deal 2yrs prior to at $13.5mil once again more money than what Charlotte was willing to give him

We gave Kidd all of what Dallas was offering 3yrs $9-10mil

We gave Camby all of what he wanted 3yrs $13-15mil

We gave Chris Duhon a 2yr deal for $11.5mil when Orlando was only going to pay him 2yrs $7.5mil

We gave Curry and Crawford $60mil contracts 6yrs in length, without conditions

J.R. Smith probably wants nothing more than for this year to be over so he can sign for 4yrs max of whatever he can make

See the trend here? The only positives is that Camby's deal isn't fully guaranteed, but he gets $10mil of the $13.2mil as a guarantee. That's it!

So he's making $5mil per for 2yrs. Start naming how many 40yr olds are currently making $5mil/yr or who have made this much at that age any period of time in the NBA. The names should be rolling off your tongue rapidly.

Then add the fact the salaries we're paying on the latter signings come with Tax implications, which means we're paying even more above the norm on a yearly salary for them. In Camby's case we're also paying Toney's Douglas salary with trade executed and other assets given up. TROLOL you add it up, it's as if Camby didn't take a hit in asset value compared to his last year $8.5mil salary in Portland. For Seriously for a 40yr old?

And I don't want to hear you have to pay to get or keep talent. If that's the case why did Duncan/Dirk/Love/Parker/Ginobli/Garnett/Pierce/Rondo/Horford/Noah/Aldridge take less for their respective teams..... and for most of these guys all they did was win at the highest levels or had instant impact on their franchises once they showed up.

yet some folks are still convinced this all of a sudden was about $$$$ not Dolan's hurt reactionary ego. You can go on and on. Jerome James, Penny, Shandoneisleyspoon.........

oh and don't forget the boatload of picks thrown in when the knicks are always bidding againsts themselves

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:HEY HEY! The dead horse belongs in the other thread...

we dragged that sorry ass dead horse over here!!!

I have a new whooping stick and my arms are rested.... LOL

This offseason seems like forever! I can't take it anymore!

yea, NBA offseason seems to last forever.. lol