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Panos
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9/12/2012  1:41 PM
Patrick Ewing wasn’t that desperate.

The Knicks great was offered a chance to coach his former franchise’s D-League team, the Erie Bayhawks, but passed on the opportunity, according to ESPN.com.

"Patrick has paid his dues," a source told the website. "He was a little insulted."

Ewing has been an assistant for the [past eight seasons with the Wizards, Rockets and Magic. He was not retained when Orlando fired Stan Van Gundy. He has been trying desperately for an NBA head coaching position, but has been passed over so far.

Knicks assistant GM Allan Houston said on Monday that the team has found a coach for Erie, but declined to say who it was.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/ewing_insulted_by_knicks_offer_to_Gosw91dd47xSnHuXWsyFUP#ixzz26HJ838pu

Let's see, Pat. How many teams have you coached to a championship?
Oh.
None?
How about to the Playoffs? Winning season?
Um.
Ok, how about a losing season?
A few games? None? Really?
I guess you must have had lots of offers to coach NBA teams, and just not the right one?
No?
Right. Ok. So you're insulted about a D-League coaching gig offer?
Don't really know what to tell ya, big fella.
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9/12/2012  1:47 PM
Somewhere the guy who used to be head coach of the Albany Patroons is smiling.

I can see Patrick thinking, "...Mark Jackson??? Mark Jackson is a head coach? I've been sweating down here with DivaHoward for years and they give a head coaching gig to a guy who can barely put two sentences together on TV?..."

Mark Jackson doesn't have any rings, winning seasons, blah blah blah

Ewing must be rubbing management folks the wrong way.
mrKnickShot
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9/12/2012  1:52 PM
He has a sense of entitlement.

I think that he would be an awful coach.

Just my opinion. MJax was a player coach. Ewing was just big and talented. He did not have the highest of IQ's as a player and NEVER passed out of the double team.

He was a great player and nobody can argue with that.
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9/12/2012  2:04 PM

He paid his dues.

They were not enough.

Its not like his buddy in Charlotte made him an offer. Or anyone else.

Lets not go too far with the "source" because these are not Pats word directly.
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9/12/2012  3:01 PM
I keep hearing how he was such a good Big Man coach but, seriously, I didn't really see any significant improvement in Howard's game. He developed a little baby hook (a move Pat never had or never used) and a few other but, nothing major or significant.

The biggest issue I got with Pat is when he wanted Walsh to hire him as an assistant. Walsh said Pat never called and Pat said, "he shouldn't have to call." Excuse me Pat but, weren't YOU the one wanting the job. If so he should have acted like it and picked up the phone instead of acting like an entitled overgrown putz.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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9/12/2012  3:03 PM
Also, Pat, ever since he retired, how often does he visit MSG. He's never at the games and rarely seen in New York. You want New Yorkers and Knicks fans to identify with you, then show us some love
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
mrKnickShot
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9/12/2012  3:04 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:I keep hearing how he was such a good Big Man coach but, seriously, I didn't really see any significant improvement in Howard's game. He developed a little baby hook (a move Pat never had or never used) and a few other but, nothing major or significant.

The biggest issue I got with Pat is when he wanted Walsh to hire him as an assistant. Walsh said Pat never called and Pat said, "he shouldn't have to call." Excuse me Pat but, weren't YOU the one wanting the job. If so he should have acted like it and picked up the phone instead of acting like an entitled overgrown putz.

Ewing was always pissed at the world and feeling slighted.
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9/12/2012  3:12 PM
We should hire Ewing just to get Barkley to like us.
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9/12/2012  3:29 PM
Not going to lie. I'd be insulted too. If the Knicks weren't going to offer him an assistant position on the Knicks then they shouldn't have offered anything.

Who goes from assistant on an NBA team to coaching a D-League team.

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9/12/2012  3:40 PM
Like I said in another post, coaches with actual track records as head coaches in the NBA have gone this route and continue to go this route, so it seems odd that Ewing would feel slighted about being offered the job. Will never forget what Patrick gave to the Knicks but he is also making it increasingly difficult to forget how much of a diva he can be at times.
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9/12/2012  3:43 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Like I said in another post, coaches with actual track records as head coaches in the NBA have gone this route and continue to go this route, so it seems odd that Ewing would feel slighted about being offered the job. Will never forget what Patrick gave to the Knicks but he is also making it increasingly difficult to forget how much of a diva he can be at times.

GB, well put as usual.
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9/12/2012  3:50 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Like I said in another post, coaches with actual track records as head coaches in the NBA have gone this route and continue to go this route, so it seems odd that Ewing would feel slighted about being offered the job. Will never forget what Patrick gave to the Knicks but he is also making it increasingly difficult to forget how much of a diva he can be at times.

GB, well put as usual.

Thanks mrKnickShot, much appreciated.
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9/12/2012  7:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/12/2012  7:35 PM
I like jrod's oblique reference to everyone's favorite Knicks bench rider turned coach, Phil Jackson, who got his first championship as HC in Albany.

"Old" timers, help me out: what was the CBA like and how did it relate to the NBA? Any of y'all follow it back in the 70s or 80s? Was it like an informal D-League, a small market minor league or what?

I'd love Pat over in Eire shepherding our yoots, getting them ready for top flight ball. But I'm selfish: I'd love to have overqualified — but not disgruntled — candidates at every level of the Knicks organization.

But I really don't know if Pat is over-qualified or not...

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9/12/2012  8:01 PM
Gotta agree with you on this. If Monty Williams is a head coach then damnit I can be a head coach too!

jrodmc wrote:Somewhere the guy who used to be head coach of the Albany Patroons is smiling.

I can see Patrick thinking, "...Mark Jackson??? Mark Jackson is a head coach? I've been sweating down here with DivaHoward for years and they give a head coaching gig to a guy who can barely put two sentences together on TV?..."

Mark Jackson doesn't have any rings, winning seasons, blah blah blah

Ewing must be rubbing management folks the wrong way.

Bring back dee-fense
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9/12/2012  9:49 PM
i love pat, always will, one of the greatest knicks of all time. but let's just be honest here, what exactly has he done to make anyone think he's going to make a good nba head-coach? sure, guys like mark jackson have gotten jobs with no experience, but mark jackson was as heady of a player as they come and was a coach on the floor much of his career. not once in my time watching patrick ewing did i ever think he would make a great nba coach, i actually never thought he'd ever get into coaching at all. ewing has put in alot of time and hard work and it's evident that he has a great work ethic but clearly he must not know the x' and o's of the game or else he would have been hired already.
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9/12/2012  10:21 PM
I read this summer that the reason Pat doesn't get any head coaching offers is because he has a reputation for being lazy and not sweating the details the way most coaches do. I don't know... H20 went to Erie and ended up moving up the food chain. Work hard, make sacrifices, good things happen. That's the way it is for most people
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9/12/2012  10:24 PM
nyk4ever wrote:i love pat, always will, one of the greatest knicks of all time. but let's just be honest here, what exactly has he done to make anyone think he's going to make a good nba head-coach? sure, guys like mark jackson have gotten jobs with no experience, but mark jackson was as heady of a player as they come and was a coach on the floor much of his career. not once in my time watching patrick ewing did i ever think he would make a great nba coach, i actually never thought he'd ever get into coaching at all. ewing has put in alot of time and hard work and it's evident that he has a great work ethic but clearly he must not know the x' and o's of the game or else he would have been hired already.

+1

Never thought Patrick would want to coach either. I don't know what kind of coach Jax will turn out to be but you sum up why he was picked for a head coaching gig and Patrick hasn't. If Ewing thinks he is going to get picked over quality assistants like a Thibodeau he has another thing coming. Great players don't necessarily make great coaches.
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9/12/2012  10:28 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I read this summer that the reason Pat doesn't get any head coaching offers is because he has a reputation for being lazy and not sweating the details the way most coaches do. I don't know... H20 went to Erie and ended up moving up the food chain. Work hard, make sacrifices, good things happen. That's the way it is for most people

I don't think he gets geeked up for Xs and Os the way other assistants do. If Ewing was a great motivator he might have been able to pass the heavy lifting on to his assistants, but I don't see any signs of that. Hakeem would make a good coach IMO.
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9/12/2012  10:35 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I read this summer that the reason Pat doesn't get any head coaching offers is because he has a reputation for being lazy and not sweating the details the way most coaches do. I don't know... H20 went to Erie and ended up moving up the food chain. Work hard, make sacrifices, good things happen. That's the way it is for most people

I don't think he gets geeked up for Xs and Os the way other assistants do. If Ewing was a great motivator he might have been able to pass the heavy lifting on to his assistants, but I don't see any signs of that. Hakeem would make a good coach IMO.

I don't have a problem with coaches the pass the scheme onto the assistants... but what I heard was more like Ewing went through the motions with everything. Video, meetings, everything... To your point: Phil Jackson let Tex Winters handle the Xs and Os but he was obviously pretty good. Ewing apparently just goes through the motions with everything

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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9/12/2012  10:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/12/2012  10:44 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I read this summer that the reason Pat doesn't get any head coaching offers is because he has a reputation for being lazy and not sweating the details the way most coaches do. I don't know... H20 went to Erie and ended up moving up the food chain. Work hard, make sacrifices, good things happen. That's the way it is for most people

I don't think he gets geeked up for Xs and Os the way other assistants do. If Ewing was a great motivator he might have been able to pass the heavy lifting on to his assistants, but I don't see any signs of that. Hakeem would make a good coach IMO.

I don't have a problem with coaches the pass the scheme onto the assistants... but what I heard was more like Ewing went through the motions with everything. Video, meetings, everything... To your point: Phil Jackson let Tex Winters handle the Xs and Os but he was obviously pretty good. Ewing apparently just goes through the motions with everything

Great example. Byron Scott never drew up plays from what I hear. Kidd was probably the de facto coach in his days with the Nets when they reached the finals, but Scott was a great motivator, even gives speeches as one in his spare time I've read. Ewing has to find something other than his resume as a player to make himself more marketable.
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