93BUICK wrote:Oh my goodness gracious

Bonn1997 wrote:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/roger-clemens-says-hes-not-major-league-ready/article4498913/
It would be awesome to see him defy age and pitch great again in MLB.

Why would this be awesome? It would have been awesome if he was never allowed to pitch again.

Players like he and Bonds defiled baseball.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/roger-clemens-says-hes-not-major-league-ready/article4498913/
It would be awesome to see him defy age and pitch great again in MLB.

Why would this be awesome? It would have been awesome if he was never allowed to pitch again.

Players like he and Bonds defiled baseball.

Enough with the steroids witch hunt. Most likely, more than half of MLB was taking steroids. It was the norm and it wasn't properly tested against for a long time. So, with that being said, let it go. I don't get why so many people take personal offense and vilify the players who used steroids.

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/roger-clemens-says-hes-not-major-league-ready/article4498913/
It would be awesome to see him defy age and pitch great again in MLB.

Why would this be awesome? It would have been awesome if he was never allowed to pitch again.

Players like he and Bonds defiled baseball.

Enough with the steroids witch hunt. Most likely, more than half of MLB was taking steroids. It was the norm and it wasn't properly tested against for a long time. So, with that being said, let it go. I don't get why so many people take personal offense and vilify the players who used steroids.

That is not an excuse. There were followers and leaders - he was a leader. He brought it upon himself and has only himself to blame. And, Clemens was always a prick so I do not feel bad for him at all.

I will continue to respect players like Jeter who did not defile the game. Maybe I will just appreciate the players in the half that stayed clean.

Do you feel the same way about Bonds?

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/roger-clemens-says-hes-not-major-league-ready/article4498913/
It would be awesome to see him defy age and pitch great again in MLB.

Why would this be awesome? It would have been awesome if he was never allowed to pitch again.

Players like he and Bonds defiled baseball.

Enough with the steroids witch hunt. Most likely, more than half of MLB was taking steroids. It was the norm and it wasn't properly tested against for a long time. So, with that being said, let it go. I don't get why so many people take personal offense and vilify the players who used steroids.

That is not an excuse. There were followers and leaders - he was a leader. He brought it upon himself and has only himself to blame. And, Clemens was always a prick so I do not feel bad for him at all.

I will continue to respect players like Jeter who did not defile the game. Maybe I will just appreciate the players in the half that stayed clean.

Do you feel the same way about Bonds?

I hear what you're saying, but I'm just tired of hearing about it. It overshadows the game sometimes and it's well... ridiculous. Steroids didn't make players have better control. It extended careers, made fastballs a little faster and added some homeruns, I acknowledge this. But it doesn't make crappy players into good players. It sometimes turns very good players into great players. So, we should put it in perspective.

Solace wrote:

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/roger-clemens-says-hes-not-major-league-ready/article4498913/
It would be awesome to see him defy age and pitch great again in MLB.

Why would this be awesome? It would have been awesome if he was never allowed to pitch again.

Players like he and Bonds defiled baseball.

Enough with the steroids witch hunt. Most likely, more than half of MLB was taking steroids. It was the norm and it wasn't properly tested against for a long time. So, with that being said, let it go. I don't get why so many people take personal offense and vilify the players who used steroids.

That is not an excuse. There were followers and leaders - he was a leader. He brought it upon himself and has only himself to blame. And, Clemens was always a prick so I do not feel bad for him at all.

I will continue to respect players like Jeter who did not defile the game. Maybe I will just appreciate the players in the half that stayed clean.

Do you feel the same way about Bonds?

I hear what you're saying, but I'm just tired of hearing about it. It overshadows the game sometimes and it's well... ridiculous. Steroids didn't make players have better control. It extended careers, made fastballs a little faster and added some homeruns, I acknowledge this. But it doesn't make crappy players into good players. It sometimes turns very good players into great players. So, we should put it in perspective.

Also, what's the criteria to say who stayed clean and who didn't? It's all conjecture. Jeter stayed clean because he didn't hit a lot of home runs? So, everyone who hits home runs is instantly on steroids? This is what has really defiled the game - the witch hunt.

One thing I hate about the whole roids issue is that now ALL players are under suspicion. As Jeter is hitting .320 at 38 many are going to question whether he's taking something.

I love baseball and there is no doubt in my mind that roids has a huge effect on player performance. It will make a scrub average, average a star and a star into a human video game.