subzero0 wrote:

Uptown wrote:I understand people are upset but lets use some logic here. We lose to Nyets and all of a sudden half the Knicks is trash now?! I know nobody wants to here this now but we were without 3 of our top 8 players tonite.

Yes, the season has barely begun and the Knicks are already missing 3 of their top 8 players. Uptown, that is not a good thing, that is pretty bad. Their age caught up to them and they arent even at the halfway point of the season.

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:When we needed a last shot in a close game Melo choked...

That's why I prefer winning games with comfortable leads, don't want to see Zero Ball A.K.A. Hero Ball

Choked?! Get out of here!! Dude had 35 and 13 in 50 mins. He cant make every shot. To be honest, it should have never come down to the last shot. The 2 playes before that shot were horrible play calls by Woodson. Those triple screen plays is either going to result in a runner from Felton or an alley oop to Tyson. Nets sagged and let Felton shoot.

kind of empty, he forced a lot of shots, I mean who else got into a rhythm on the knicks.. chandler has to get his off putbacks...carmelo had just 1 assist.. just 1.. as bad as joe johnson played he had 3 assists that pretty much broke the knicks backs. and please don't tell me about carmelo's hockey assists.. the knicks just had 14 total as a team.. deron had that by himself!

subzero0 wrote:

Uptown wrote:I understand people are upset but lets use some logic here. We lose to Nyets and all of a sudden half the Knicks is trash now?! I know nobody wants to here this now but we were without 3 of our top 8 players tonite.

Yes, the season has barely begun and the Knicks are already missing 3 of their top 8 players. Uptown, that is not a good thing, that is pretty bad. Their age caught up to them and they arent even at the halfway point of the season.

Shump being out has nothing to do with age. Amare has been falling apart since he got here and Kidd, yes possible due to age.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Uptown wrote:I understand people are upset but lets use some logic here. We lose to Nyets and all of a sudden half the Knicks is trash now?! I know nobody wants to here this now but we were without 3 of our top 8 players tonite.

i agree but lately we have been bad. We are 3-4 the last 7

Valid point.

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:When we needed a last shot in a close game Melo choked...

That's why I prefer winning games with comfortable leads, don't want to see Zero Ball A.K.A. Hero Ball

Choked?! Get out of here!! Dude had 35 and 13 in 50 mins. He cant make every shot. To be honest, it should have never come down to the last shot. The 2 playes before that shot were horrible play calls by Woodson. Those triple screen plays is either going to result in a runner from Felton or an alley oop to Tyson. Nets sagged and let Felton shoot.

You're confirming my stance on this. Melo filled up the stat sheet...I don't care I've been told for a while now Melo clutch gene separates him from so many players. I don't care about clutch gene I want to win games where we aren't dependent on Hero Ball or last second shot. Because at the end of the day as Melo likes to say a player is probably only going to make 30% of those opportunities which means you watch them fail more than they succeed in such situations.

win or lose melo most of the time will get his-- in the regular season. face it he's a stat sheet stuffer, a player that isaiah thomas covets. it's a disturbing and by now predictable pattern. of course against superior defensive teams come playoff time it's almost always been a lose.... there are stats and then there's floor impact in terms of making others better.

something has to change-- he can't continue to play in a vacuum in a team game.

nets have a nice squad and i am not a fan of johnson.

dk7th wrote:nets have a nice squad and i am not a fan of johnson.

I agree - JJ really isn't that good.

On a semi related note - they need to get some value for Humphries while they still can.

nixluva wrote:I think Kidd makes all the difference in the world with this team. Just think about how many games Kidd helped us win in the 4th qtr when he comes in and turns up the tempo on D and helps us get good shots. Look this Knicks team is playing without Kidd, Amar'e and Shump. Those are actually key players for this team. Kidd in particular was missed the most tonight, but when we have all of our players this team is going to be really tough to beat

right now we don't know how shump and amare affects this team.. so I am not going to say we are really missing them as we have started off well without them.. but I will say we miss kidd, who I think is the most important player on this team right now....

dk7th wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:When we needed a last shot in a close game Melo choked...

That's why I prefer winning games with comfortable leads, don't want to see Zero Ball A.K.A. Hero Ball

Choked?! Get out of here!! Dude had 35 and 13 in 50 mins. He cant make every shot. To be honest, it should have never come down to the last shot. The 2 playes before that shot were horrible play calls by Woodson. Those triple screen plays is either going to result in a runner from Felton or an alley oop to Tyson. Nets sagged and let Felton shoot.

You're confirming my stance on this. Melo filled up the stat sheet...I don't care I've been told for a while now Melo clutch gene separates him from so many players. I don't care about clutch gene I want to win games where we aren't dependent on Hero Ball or last second shot. Because at the end of the day as Melo likes to say a player is probably only going to make 30% of those opportunities which means you watch them fail more than they succeed in such situations.

win or lose melo most of the time will get his-- in the regular season. face it he's a stat sheet stuffer, a player that isaiah thomas covets. it's a disturbing and by now predictable pattern. of course against superior defensive teams come playoff time it's almost always been a lose.... there are stats and then there's floor impact in terms of making others better.

something has to change-- he can't continue to play in a vacuum in a team game.

nets have a nice squad and i am not a fan of johnson.

He busted his @ss. Played a man's game. His free throw shooting was really disappointing However, Knicks aren't in this game if melo isn't the hardest working guy on the court. Knicks missed Kidd. Felton, and melo played flawed games. They need kidds presence and guidance.

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:When we needed a last shot in a close game Melo choked...

That's why I prefer winning games with comfortable leads, don't want to see Zero Ball A.K.A. Hero Ball

Choked?! Get out of here!! Dude had 35 and 13 in 50 mins. He cant make every shot. To be honest, it should have never come down to the last shot. The 2 playes before that shot were horrible play calls by Woodson. Those triple screen plays is either going to result in a runner from Felton or an alley oop to Tyson. Nets sagged and let Felton shoot.

You're confirming my stance on this. Melo filled up the stat sheet...I don't care I've been told for a while now Melo clutch gene separates him from so many players. I don't care about clutch gene I want to win games where we aren't dependent on Hero Ball or last second shot. Because at the end of the day as Melo likes to say a player is probably only going to make 30% of those opportunities which means you watch them fail more than they succeed in such situations.

Yes, its team ball. Other than Tyson, his teammates came up small on the offensive end. Woodson didnt help either with the two plays he called that proceeded the Melo miss. My point is, it should have never come down to that shot.

uptown, this team wasn't built to have multiple playmakers. which is why melo wanted lin out of town, and honestly, I am not sure woodson was so hot on lin as well, said he needed a PG who shot less.. well felton is taking a lot of shots.. but we lack guys who can create for others off the dribble.. this team is built that way, for better or worse.... what we can hope is that kid doesn't miss many games as he tends to make sense of the madness on the court most of the time...

tkf wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:When we needed a last shot in a close game Melo choked...

That's why I prefer winning games with comfortable leads, don't want to see Zero Ball A.K.A. Hero Ball

Choked?! Get out of here!! Dude had 35 and 13 in 50 mins. He cant make every shot. To be honest, it should have never come down to the last shot. The 2 playes before that shot were horrible play calls by Woodson. Those triple screen plays is either going to result in a runner from Felton or an alley oop to Tyson. Nets sagged and let Felton shoot.

You're confirming my stance on this. Melo filled up the stat sheet...I don't care I've been told for a while now Melo clutch gene separates him from so many players. I don't care about clutch gene I want to win games where we aren't dependent on Hero Ball or last second shot. Because at the end of the day as Melo likes to say a player is probably only going to make 30% of those opportunities which means you watch them fail more than they succeed in such situations.

Yes, its team ball. Other than Tyson, his teammates came up small on the offensive end. Woodson didnt help either with the two plays he called that proceeded the Melo miss. My point is, it should have never come down to that shot.

uptown, this team wasn't built to have multiple playmakers. which is why melo wanted lin out of town, and honestly, I am not sure woodson was so hot on lin as well, said he needed a PG who shot less.. well felton is taking a lot of shots.. but we lack guys who can create for others off the dribble.. this team is built that way, for better or worse.... what we can hope is that kid doesn't miss many games as he tends to make sense of the madness on the court most of the time...

Lin conspiracy anti -melo posting makes its appearance.