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Why Not Matching Lin's Contract Was the Right Move
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TheGame
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7/19/2012  7:34 AM
Let me start by saying I really wanted Lin back. But the reality is that Lin is a unproven scoring PG (who had serious turnover issues). We have a team with Melo, Amare, and J.R. Smith (all guys that want to score and need the ball in their hands). Unless Woodson was going to magically figure out how Lin and Melo were going to work with both taking 20 shots a game, this offense was never going to function right with Lin. By mid-season, it would have been a Lin v. Melo controversy as to who should the offense run through. If Felton can lose some damn weight and come in focused, he is a better pg for THIS team. He can shoot decently, he can penetrate, and his defense is much better than Lin's defense. Plus, he will be more than happy only taking 10-12 shots a game, which will leave more shots for Smith, Melo, and Amare. This team needed balance more than anything else.

Plus, as a financial matter, the Knicks already probably have a verbal agreement with Smith that they would reup him if he agreed to that $2.8 million deal. So they would have to resign him next summer to a $5-$6 million a year deal. Add that to what they are already committed to paying everyone else, and you see that signing Lin would have probably cost the Knicks like $60-$70 million in luxury tax payments, which even the Knicks could not swallow.

While there was an argument that we could have matched and then traded Lin. We could not trade him until January 15, so we would have to spent half the year with him on the team, and if, as the Knicks probably suspected, he and Melo could not play together, it would have been a mutinty when the Knicks shipped him out mid-season. It was probably better to avoid that drama and trade now for a decent more pass-first pg to replace Lin.

I honestly like Felton, and think that if he comes to camp in top shape, he will give us what we need at the pg position.

With that being said, the Knicks made mistakes. They should have made it clear to Lin that while they would match at $9 million figure, they were not matching anything higher. All the buzz led Lin's camp to believe that the Knicks would match anything, so Lin went back to the Rockets and talked them into upping the 3rd year. It was foolish on his part, but the Knicks led him to believe he could get away with it.

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7/19/2012  8:00 AM
I agree! For the offense woody simply needs a conservative pg who plays def and doesnt turmovrr. Ideally a pg like eric snow.. Felton can run this team . Lin has more talent but not a good fit
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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7/19/2012  8:05 AM
"jeremy Lin is a terrific backup"

- Larry Brown

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7/19/2012  8:59 AM
Larry is going to stick up for his ex player Felton after all Larry is known for his loyalty.
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7/19/2012  10:11 AM
I hated to see Lin go as much as the next guy.

But there are 2 major reasons not to bring him back.
1. Locker room distraction if he does not live up to the contract.
the media would have obsessed over it to the point of insistently asking the other players on the team to comment with no end in sight.
2. No one has mentioned the ridiculous cap hold that there would be year 4. I think it is like 115% of previous year.
We would ultimately have to release him if the contract negotiation extended beyond a reasonable time so we don't miss out on big name free agents.

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7/19/2012  10:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/19/2012  10:44 AM
"Jeremy Lin plays beautiful basketball"

- misterearl

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7/19/2012  10:50 AM
1) Distractions in the locker room? I don't know how long anyone's been following the team, but we will have them no matter what, welcome to New York! I would rather have had distractions with Lin than distractions without him. Oh well.

2) Cap space? We still talkin bout Cap Space??? We are in full bore Starphucque mode. Dolan should have spent the cash. He'd have gotten it all back in one more set of stupid cable provider fights...

This whole LinMessanity just somehow makes me hate Isaiyah even more.

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7/19/2012  10:53 AM
Lets face it - we all really wanted Lin to stay and the team will sorely miss him and his creativity, though I won't miss the circus.

This was a fiasco that probably did not need to end this way and in the end, I think everyone lost.

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7/19/2012  10:59 AM
Only time will tell if matching Lin's contract was the right move or not. If he goes on to become an all-time great with four or five rings, we're gonna regret this no matter how you slice it. However, it probably is true that Felton is a better fit for this team as constructed. Like nixluva says - for "Old School Knicks Basketball".
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7/19/2012  11:02 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:Lets face it - we all really wanted Lin to stay and the team will sorely miss him and his creativity, though I won't miss the circus.

This was a fiasco that probably did not need to end this way and in the end, I think everyone lost.

I think that pretty much sums it up. It's sad to see him go but I certainly won't miss the circus. It was a little much. Its easy to read between the lines of what the Knicks have said and Lin's SI interview and as many have stated previously the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It will be interesting to see what happens with him in Houston. I think that market will be easier on him since the stage is not as big as MSG.

Meanwhile life in Knicks world goes on, we have a bunch of new faces (some returning from previous teams) and it should be an interesting year. I think our biggest upgrade was the Camby move and I think the PG spot got a little more consistent barring any more off court issues with Kidd. There is plenty of reason to be excited even though the Lin divorce is bitter.

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7/19/2012  11:06 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:Lets face it - we all really wanted Lin to stay and the team will sorely miss him and his creativity, though I won't miss the circus.

This was a fiasco that probably did not need to end this way and in the end, I think everyone lost.

Winners:
Houston win - they will get a load of cache and player to build around.
Houston GM has his job saved.
Lin will get piece of mind, central role, and time to develop and build his brand.
Lin’s agents - WOW... Winners all around.
Asian fans do not care were Lin is playing. Obviously they do not care about Knicks any more.
Losers:
Dolan - it's OK, he is loser for life.
Knicks organization - nothing new.
Knicks fans - by association, but they seems to like it.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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7/19/2012  11:14 AM
BasketballJones wrote:Only time will tell if matching Lin's contract was the right move or not. If he goes on to become an all-time great with four or five rings, we're gonna regret this no matter how you slice it. However, it probably is true that Felton is a better fit for this team as constructed. Like nixluva says - for "Old School Knicks Basketball".

i've said it before and i'll say it again:

lin's game is tailor-made for an uptempo system, which is why he played so great for d'antoni. we are not playing anything near that now and it's going to come down to having a floor-general pg, who can run the pnr and set other guys up. felton suits this very nicely.

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7/19/2012  11:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/19/2012  11:30 AM
Nobody Wins

mrKnickShot - This was a fiasco that probably did not need to end this way and in the end, I think everyone lost.

Houston Rockets franchise - instantly loses the support of fans when Lin falls short of being a savior.
Daryl Morey - loses the respect of NBA general managers for breaking a fraternal covenant by renegotiating an offer sheet
Lin - loses the megaphone of New York City and the unbridled passion of Knicks fans who cheered his ascent

Williams & Connally - loses the respect of the powerful Dolan family and associates.
Roger Montgomery - loses his innocence and the ability to call the shots, he is now part of the W&C machine
David Stern - loses the Bird rights arbitration case

Dolan - loses Cablevision revenue
Knicks franchise - loses the marketing revenue
Knicks fans - lose a favored son but gain a Maestro

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7/19/2012  11:31 AM
misterearl wrote:"jeremy Lin is a terrific backup"

- Larry Brown

"Larry Brown is fired."

- James Dolan

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mrKnickShot
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7/19/2012  11:56 AM
misterearl wrote:Nobody Wins

mrKnickShot - This was a fiasco that probably did not need to end this way and in the end, I think everyone lost.

Houston Rockets franchise - instantly loses the support of fans when Lin falls short of being a savior.
Daryl Morey - loses the respect of NBA general managers for breaking a fraternal covenant by renegotiating an offer sheet
Lin - loses the megaphone of New York City and the unbridled passion of Knicks fans who cheered his ascent

Williams & Connally - loses the respect of the powerful Dolan family and associates.
Roger Montgomery - loses his innocence and the ability to call the shots, he is now part of the W&C machine
David Stern - loses the Bird rights arbitration case

Dolan - loses Cablevision revenue
Knicks franchise - loses the marketing revenue
Knicks fans - lose a favored son but gain a Maestro

Well put.

I do think that Morey is all in on this and will be fired next year if Houston is bad and/or Lin has a mediocre year.

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7/19/2012  12:06 PM
Vmart wrote:Larry is going to stick up for his ex player Felton after all Larry is known for his loyalty.

Larry has been saying that the last four months..

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7/19/2012  12:15 PM
With the current direction, it's probably not killer. From a fan perspective, it sucks. I don't like the direction we're taking with this team, but if this is the direction, I guess it makes sense. I think MSG lost a ton of money long-term and it was a bad financial decision. But, it is what it is.

It's sad, because if D'Antoni was still our coach, keep Jeremy Lin, watch him blossom into a star and trade Melo, maybe build a talented running team, we may have gone very far with Lin as our PG. I think Melo has been a bit of a cancer. Got the coach fired, influenced not keeping a rising star, not a good resume from a personality standpoint. But, that said, he's our best option in the current system, so let's go this route and see if we can win with him. If we don't make it to the second round this year, though, I think it's time to consider dismantling this team.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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7/19/2012  12:21 PM
Vmart wrote:Larry is going to stick up for his ex player Felton after all Larry is known for his loyalty.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/12/22/larry.brown.resigns/index.html

"Another source of contention was the departure of point guard Raymond Felton. Though Brown wasn't a big fan, he didn't want to see Felton leave as a free agent unless he was replaced by a full-time starter. But the Bobcats have been unable to afford replacements at either position. In the meantime Felton has put up All-Star numbers for the surprising Knicks, while Chandler has galvanized the Mavericks' defense to raise their championship hopes."


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5374652

"Walsh also revealed that he attempted to trade for Felton last season but was told by Charlotte Bobcats coach Larry Brown, "Donnie, I can't trade his heart."

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