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DrAlphaeus
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7/17/2012  1:03 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/07/carmelo-walks-back-that-lin-business.html

Carmelo Walks Back That Lin Business

Fairly or not, if the Knicks do not bring back Jeremy Lin — and we'll know by midnight tonight whether or not they're going to match his offer sheet — Carmelo Anthony will take a large part of the blame. The primary reason, of course, is that Carmelo, by hook or by crook, effectively ended Linsanity; he and Lin ultimately ended up meshing fine, but he and then-coach Mike D'Antoni absolutely did not, and the subsequent failings toned down all the Lin madness. When D'Antoni left, this officially became Carmelo's team again, and it has remained that way. (Which it arguably should. Many people argue this!) For many who adored Linsanity and still lament its passing, Carmelo is particularly polarizing: The guy wants to win, but only wants to win his way, with himself at the center of everything. So when Carmelo made his "ridiculous contract" remarks about Lin's offer sheet from Houston, many felt that was a sign from Carmelo to Jim Dolan and the Knicks' front office: Don't re-sign him. This is my team now. Carmelo, perhaps wisely, backed off a bit last night.

After the U.S. national team's not particularly impressive 80–69 win over Brazil last night, Carmelo took great pains to note that he didn't mean any offense to Lin.

“I hope we can get it done, man,” Anthony told CBSsports.com after Team USA beat Brazil, 80-69, in Washington. “I would love to see him back. Honestly, I would definitely love to see him back. But knowing the business of basketball, it’s kind of a tough situation for both parties. ... It was ridiculous for them to do what they did as far as throwing that out there and making it tough on us to sign him back. That’s why it’s called free agency, though. ... For Jeremy, I know that he definitely wants to be back in New York and James Dolan definitely wants him back. But it’s just a matter of figuring it out at this point.”

So ... how do we unpack that? As always with Carmelo and the Knicks — why they're such a perfect match, really — it's tough to tell which parts are honest, which parts are disingenuous, and which parts are both. Basically, Carmelo says he really wants Jeremy Lin back but understands why the Knicks wouldn't bring him back. Now, just how much control Carmelo has over the front office is up for debate — on the one hand, he admitted to not playing hard until the coach he didn't like was fired and brought in a ton of veteran friends of his from across the league; on the other hand ... well, there is debate somewhere, we're sure! — so perhaps he, in the big championship push he's supposedly making in this three-year window, is just worried about Jim Dolan's pocketbook. Or he's trying to save face but doesn't really want Lin back. Or maybe he's fighting for him now, this very second. One thing we're sure of: Carmelo Anthony has a lot more say over this than he's pretending he does.

Listen, we love Carmelo. We really do. But if he wants Jeremy Lin back, he'll be back. We know how this works now, right? If there has been one constant since Carmelo joined the Knicks, it's that Carmelo always gets his way. Why should this be any different, one way or the other?

It's gonna be a long day, people.

I hesitated starting another thread, but everybody is doing it, I couldn't resist!

My speculation about the Lin thing: Lin wanted to be back. Rockets wanted Lin and probably brought out fancy advanced statistics of how his career would fare compared to the Knicks. Brought in the big guns of Yao and sold him the world, and gave him an offer that meant business. Same as the Knicks do when they woo Grant Hill and Steve Nash every year. Including this year. His buddy Fields both benefitted and suffered from the NYC spotlight, and is going to a team where he will have greater responsibility with a less insane fan base and media corps. (I finally saw some tabloid covers with Lin in a Rockets uniform... ridiculous, indeed. Nothing has been signed yet!

Melo is the elephant in the room (not a fat joke). -ball and the Basketball Gods gave Lin his opportunity he made the best of, and Melo and this front office chased the Point Guard's Best Friend away. So now we wait. But the drama is long from over, no matter what direction.

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7/17/2012  1:10 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/07/carmelo-walks-back-that-lin-business.html

Carmelo Walks Back That Lin Business

Fairly or not, if the Knicks do not bring back Jeremy Lin — and we'll know by midnight tonight whether or not they're going to match his offer sheet — Carmelo Anthony will take a large part of the blame. The primary reason, of course, is that Carmelo, by hook or by crook, effectively ended Linsanity; he and Lin ultimately ended up meshing fine, but he and then-coach Mike D'Antoni absolutely did not, and the subsequent failings toned down all the Lin madness. When D'Antoni left, this officially became Carmelo's team again, and it has remained that way. (Which it arguably should. Many people argue this!) For many who adored Linsanity and still lament its passing, Carmelo is particularly polarizing: The guy wants to win, but only wants to win his way, with himself at the center of everything. So when Carmelo made his "ridiculous contract" remarks about Lin's offer sheet from Houston, many felt that was a sign from Carmelo to Jim Dolan and the Knicks' front office: Don't re-sign him. This is my team now. Carmelo, perhaps wisely, backed off a bit last night.

After the U.S. national team's not particularly impressive 80–69 win over Brazil last night, Carmelo took great pains to note that he didn't mean any offense to Lin.

“I hope we can get it done, man,” Anthony told CBSsports.com after Team USA beat Brazil, 80-69, in Washington. “I would love to see him back. Honestly, I would definitely love to see him back. But knowing the business of basketball, it’s kind of a tough situation for both parties. ... It was ridiculous for them to do what they did as far as throwing that out there and making it tough on us to sign him back. That’s why it’s called free agency, though. ... For Jeremy, I know that he definitely wants to be back in New York and James Dolan definitely wants him back. But it’s just a matter of figuring it out at this point.”

So ... how do we unpack that? As always with Carmelo and the Knicks — why they're such a perfect match, really — it's tough to tell which parts are honest, which parts are disingenuous, and which parts are both. Basically, Carmelo says he really wants Jeremy Lin back but understands why the Knicks wouldn't bring him back. Now, just how much control Carmelo has over the front office is up for debate — on the one hand, he admitted to not playing hard until the coach he didn't like was fired and brought in a ton of veteran friends of his from across the league; on the other hand ... well, there is debate somewhere, we're sure! — so perhaps he, in the big championship push he's supposedly making in this three-year window, is just worried about Jim Dolan's pocketbook. Or he's trying to save face but doesn't really want Lin back. Or maybe he's fighting for him now, this very second. One thing we're sure of: Carmelo Anthony has a lot more say over this than he's pretending he does.

Listen, we love Carmelo. We really do. But if he wants Jeremy Lin back, he'll be back. We know how this works now, right? If there has been one constant since Carmelo joined the Knicks, it's that Carmelo always gets his way. Why should this be any different, one way or the other?

It's gonna be a long day, people.

I hesitated starting another thread, but everybody is doing it, I couldn't resist!

My speculation about the Lin thing: Lin wanted to be back. Rockets wanted Lin and probably brought out fancy advanced statistics of how his career would fare compared to the Knicks. Brought in the big guns of Yao and sold him the world, and gave him an offer that meant business. Same as the Knicks do when they woo Grant Hill and Steve Nash every year. Including this year. His buddy Fields both benefitted and suffered from the NYC spotlight, and is going to a team where he will have greater responsibility with a less insane fan base and media corps. (I finally saw some tabloid covers with Lin in a Rockets uniform... ridiculous, indeed. Nothing has been signed yet!

Melo is the elephant in the room (not a fat joke). -ball and the Basketball Gods gave Lin his opportunity he made the best of, and Melo and this front office chased the Point Guard's Best Friend away. So now we wait. But the drama is long from over, no matter what direction.

I would,love to know how the Knicks chased Landry away. From what I remember he signed the most rediculous offer sheet of the off season that the Knicks would have been crazy to match because he sucks at basketball.

I love Knicks fans but people need to be a little more fair and informed when offering opinions.

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7/17/2012  1:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/17/2012  1:14 PM
Where's the part where I said Fields was chased away?

Oh, is the Point Guard's Best Friend.

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7/17/2012  1:22 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:Where's the part where I said Fields was chased away?

Oh, is the Point Guard's Best Friend.

Oh my bad. Sorry.

Still think a lot of people are being unfair and uninformed while going nuts with the Lin stuff.

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7/17/2012  1:29 PM
If i chased fields away then mission accomplished
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7/17/2012  1:37 PM
gunsnewing wrote:If i chased fields away then mission accomplished

Indeed...nice guy...but terrible shooter.

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7/17/2012  1:49 PM
I hear you MSG3... I will readily admit that my basketball opinion is nothing anyone would pay money for.

I think the only thing clear is that the Rockets are going hard and Knicks have a tough decision to make. I don't know much about advanced stats or moneyball, but I'm sure Morey wowed him a career trajectory and the money he wants. And it's nice to be wanted after wondering if you even have a career in the NBA.

It's a shame that something as exciting as Linsanity has devolved into all of this madness, pun intended. It's like we can't have anything nice for long.

My biases I'll put out there: I was one of the folks whining about the Melo trade because although he's incredibly talented, I liked what was going on with Amar'e and the yoots. I gotta root for the guy that Jared Jeffries chased around? But I came around to Melo. But then the Fully Realized Promise of -ball emerged with Lin, and it was like: I can't believe it! But loses his joy and the Ghost of Starbury lingers once more. That's just a storyline, it ain't necessarily the truth or even close to it.

It's a wild story that we all write from the limited information we know. We'll have to wait until everyone involved pen their memoirs I guess to know what is really happening.

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7/17/2012  1:54 PM
Ha, now I feel like EnySpree... one comment about Fields turns this thread into Landrymonium.
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