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2014 the combine salaries of Melo, Amare & Chandler will be 60.6 Million almost our entire Cap
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7/17/2012  10:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/17/2012  10:24 AM
Melo 22.6,
Amare 23.4
Chandler 14.6

We will need to get lucky again (just like we got lucky with Lin) and even than there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain our own free agents and build the team properly around those guys.
I guess the Knicks can only blame themselves for paying MAX money to B Stars.
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7/17/2012  10:25 AM
Wow! A new thread for this? Very informative - thanks!
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7/17/2012  10:30 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:Wow! A new thread for this? Very informative - thanks!

I’m just pointing this out because I believe this is the main reason why we may have to let Lin go, and not necessarily the 3 years 25 million deal he got from Houston.
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7/17/2012  10:35 AM
Yes - but thats nothing new. We are have been beating this to death the last few days.
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7/17/2012  10:40 AM
Agreed,what is more important is that Like Boston who stumbled onto Rondo as the piece to put their Championship together, NY stumbled onto Lin. Boston was lucky in that they had Rondo on a rookie contract and did not need to worry about matching a crazy offer. Who knows if they would have after Rondo's rookie year. In NY's case, they must make a call. The thing is money is not the issue and it seems as though it is Dolan's feelings that is. How stupid is that?
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7/17/2012  10:41 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:Yes - but thats nothing new. We have been beating this to death the last few days.

Agree, but I don’t understand why some around here are blaming Lin for accepting an additional 6 million on his deal when our stars are making over 60 million combine.
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7/17/2012  10:43 AM
in 2013-2014, the Brooklyn Nets have $80M commited to five players: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, Kris Humprhies.

I wonder why they aren't being giant f@cking babies about it like Knicks fans?

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7/17/2012  10:52 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Yes - but thats nothing new. We have been beating this to death the last few days.

Agree, but I don’t understand why some around here are blaming Lin for accepting an additional 6 million on his deal when our stars are making over 60 million combine.

because he has only played 25 games and it is alleged that he pulled a dik move by secretly renegotiating after he heard or was told that the knicks would match.
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7/17/2012  10:53 AM
KnicksFE wrote:Melo 22.6,
Amare 23.4
Chandler 14.6

We will need to get lucky again (just like we got lucky with Lin) and even than there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain our own free agents and build the team properly around those guys.
I guess the Knicks can only blame themselves for paying MAX money to B Stars.

How many A stars are there in the NBA?

Should the knicks just build the team full of crap would that make u happy.For all the people that keep belittling are players constantly 2 of them are on the Olympic team they cant suck that bad.

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7/17/2012  10:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/17/2012  10:55 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:Melo 22.6,
Amare 23.4
Chandler 14.6

We will need to get lucky again (just like we got lucky with Lin) and even than there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain our own free agents and build the team properly around those guys.
I guess the Knicks can only blame themselves for paying MAX money to B Stars.

How many A stars are there in the NBA?

Should the knicks just build the team full of crap would that make u happy.For all the people that keep belittling are players constantly 2 of them are on the Olympic team they cant suck that bad.

Would have been 3 had the Knicks allowed STAT to play. I guess anyone not named, Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade or Durant is not acceptable as a star player. I guess Chadler lucked out with the DPOY since he's not an "A" star.

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7/17/2012  11:10 AM
CashMoney wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:Melo 22.6,
Amare 23.4
Chandler 14.6

We will need to get lucky again (just like we got lucky with Lin) and even than there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain our own free agents and build the team properly around those guys.
I guess the Knicks can only blame themselves for paying MAX money to B Stars.

How many A stars are there in the NBA?

Should the knicks just build the team full of crap would that make u happy.For all the people that keep belittling are players constantly 2 of them are on the Olympic team they cant suck that bad.

Would have been 3 had the Knicks allowed STAT to play. I guess anyone not named, Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade or Durant is not acceptable as a star player. I guess Chadler lucked out with the DPOY since he's not an "A" star.

I never said that they should not have acquired our three stars; I just think that the Knicks should have negotiated their deals a little bit better considering they knew a hard cap was coming, the team was only half built and we had very little draft picks moving foward.
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7/17/2012  11:12 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:Melo 22.6,
Amare 23.4
Chandler 14.6

We will need to get lucky again (just like we got lucky with Lin) and even than there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain our own free agents and build the team properly around those guys.
I guess the Knicks can only blame themselves for paying MAX money to B Stars.

How many A stars are there in the NBA?

Should the knicks just build the team full of crap would that make u happy.For all the people that keep belittling are players constantly 2 of them are on the Olympic team they cant suck that bad.

Would have been 3 had the Knicks allowed STAT to play. I guess anyone not named, Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade or Durant is not acceptable as a star player. I guess Chadler lucked out with the DPOY since he's not an "A" star.

I never said that they should not have acquired our three stars; I just think that the Knicks should have negotiated their deals a little bit better considering they knew a hard cap was coming, the team was only half built and we had very little draft picks moving foward.

And you are saying that they are B stars.

Assuming that Lebron, Durant and HARDEN??? are A stars?
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7/17/2012  11:13 AM
crzymdups wrote:in 2013-2014, the Brooklyn Nets have $80M commited to five players: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, Kris Humprhies.

I wonder why they aren't being giant f@cking babies about it like Knicks fans?

Again - the Nets have $80M earmarked for 5 PLAYERS in this season 2012-3 and season after this one, 2013-4 and if they want to bring anyone on in 2014-5 they'll likely be higher... not to mention they gave an MLE to that Euro guy.

Deron may be an A star.
Joe Johnson is 31.
Gerald Wallace is 31.
Brook Lopez broke his foot twice and averaged 3rebs last year.
Kris Humprhies gets mocked in every arena he visits because of the Kardashian mesh.

Is it really the end of the world if the Knicks have $80M committed to:

Lin
Amar'e
Melo
Tyson
Shump
Felton

IN THREE MORE YEARS?

Which looks like the better investment?

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7/17/2012  11:15 AM
crzymdups wrote:
crzymdups wrote:in 2013-2014, the Brooklyn Nets have $80M commited to five players: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, Kris Humprhies.

I wonder why they aren't being giant f@cking babies about it like Knicks fans?

Again - the Nets have $80M earmarked for 5 PLAYERS in this season 2012-3 and season after this one, 2013-4 and if they want to bring anyone on in 2014-5 they'll likely be higher... not to mention they gave an MLE to that Euro guy.

Deron may be an A star.
Joe Johnson is 31.
Gerald Wallace is 31.
Brook Lopez broke his foot twice and averaged 3rebs last year.
Kris Humprhies gets mocked in every arena he visits because of the Kardashian mesh.

Is it really the end of the world if the Knicks have $80M committed to:

Lin
Amar'e
Melo
Tyson
Shump
Felton

IN THREE MORE YEARS?

Which looks like the better investment?

Whos comparing?

The knicks are better than the Nyets even without LIN
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7/17/2012  11:22 AM
Sorry, but as I read the OP, I'm a little confused at the lack of ability some people have in interpreting a situation. The Knicks are a team built for the next 2-3 years. The moves they have made this offseason are mainly to bolster the support around Melo, Chandler and Stat for the next 3 years. With or without Lin, most of the salaries will drop off after 2014. I could be wrong, but this is why I believe they will ultimately re-sign Lin tonight.

My guess is that in 2015'. The Knicks will still have Melo (player option for 2015), Shumpert and JR Smith (who is going to play above his $2.8 mil salary and will sign a 3 year deal after next season) and their 1st Round Picks from 2013 & 2015. If Felton is playing at an average level he will still be here since his salary is reasonable. Asuming that Lin is re-signed tonight, he will have to be playing at the level of a top PG or take a severe pay cut in 2015 to remain with the Knicks.

The alternative is that the Knicks will trade expiring contracts in 2014. I'm hoping Grunwald is still the GM at that time as he appears to be astute in maneuvering around cap restrictions and building a supporting cast given the resources he was handed. In other words, he seems to have a plan.
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7/17/2012  11:31 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:Melo 22.6,
Amare 23.4
Chandler 14.6

We will need to get lucky again (just like we got lucky with Lin) and even than there is no guarantee that we will be able to retain our own free agents and build the team properly around those guys.
I guess the Knicks can only blame themselves for paying MAX money to B Stars.

How many A stars are there in the NBA?

Should the knicks just build the team full of crap would that make u happy.For all the people that keep belittling are players constantly 2 of them are on the Olympic team they cant suck that bad.

Would have been 3 had the Knicks allowed STAT to play. I guess anyone not named, Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade or Durant is not acceptable as a star player. I guess Chadler lucked out with the DPOY since he's not an "A" star.

I never said that they should not have acquired our three stars; I just think that the Knicks should have negotiated their deals a little bit better considering they knew a hard cap was coming, the team was only half built and we had very little draft picks moving foward.

Negoitate deals better? The only 1 that wouldnt of got that money is Amare and he still would of got close to a max deal or just shorter in terms of years.If we didnt max him out he wouldnt of come here.Could U imagine how Knick fans would of acted if they dumped 2 seasons down the drain and ended up with not 1 All Star level player. Carmelo would of been a max player no matter where he ended up. Brook Lopez got 60 Million and he sux do U really believe Chandlers deal is that bad

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7/17/2012  11:33 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Wow! A new thread for this? Very informative - thanks!

I’m just pointing this out because I believe this is the main reason why we may have to let Lin go, and not necessarily the 3 years 25 million deal he got from Houston.

I have pointed this very point out in multiple threads but, the Linofiles continue to ignore or brush it aside. You don't just add another 15mil to a pay roll will already make improving this team difficult.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/17/2012  11:38 AM
Actually Boston, decided to extend Rondo instead of letting the market define his value and saved themselves 6-7MM a year.

The Knicks had a chance to lock David Lee up for 7MM and waited and his salary went up to 12MM. They had the ability to lock Lin up quickly and make him an offer, but let the market define him.

Chandler is paid the way all big men are paid at this point. The Knicks just don't have a plan in place and just add pieces. Amare is best at the 5 and melo at the four. The would be better off with a player like Iggy at the 3 then Tyson at the 5.
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7/17/2012  11:50 AM
MS wrote:Actually Boston, decided to extend Rondo instead of letting the market define his value and saved themselves 6-7MM a year.

The Knicks had a chance to lock David Lee up for 7MM and waited and his salary went up to 12MM. They had the ability to lock Lin up quickly and make him an offer, but let the market define him.

Chandler is paid the way all big men are paid at this point. The Knicks just don't have a plan in place and just add pieces. Amare is best at the 5 and melo at the four. The would be better off with a player like Iggy at the 3 then Tyson at the 5.

Yes, but that was AFTER they knew what they had in Rondo. He already won the ring in his 2nd year in the league while still under his rookie contract. If Lin won the ring last year, would there be any doubt what he was worth? With the Knicks, probably.
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7/17/2012  11:54 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:Wow! A new thread for this? Very informative - thanks!

Its so fun that we'll make a new thread on this, how an individual Knicks fan will become a Nets fan, how Melo sucks for not backing Lin, the time when the decision is being made, one optimistic about us matching, one about the least important commentator predicting what will happen and of course, a new petition to save humanity by keeping Lin in NY... all in the next 30 seconds.

FUN TIMES!

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