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7/16/2012  7:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2012  7:01 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2012/07/16/linsanity-turns-to-spinsanity-fumbling-dolan-set-to-dump-star-as-angry-knicks-fans-organize-online/

More than 7,000 angry New York Knicks fans have to taken to online petition platform Change.org to urge inconsistent Madison Square Garden boss James Dolan to reconsider his apparent decision to usher star point guard – and worldwide media and marketing sensation – Jeremy Lin out of New York.

Thousands are flocking to the petition, started by blogger Jared Dubin, who writes for Hardwood Paroxysm as part of ESPN’s TrueHoop Network. Here’s the petition’s basic language:

Jeremy Lin is the best thing that has happened to New York Knicks basketball in the last 20 years. With Jeremy Lin as the team’s leader, the team won. He averaged 18 points and 7 assists as a starter – All-Star level performance. He has the largest fan base of any player in the NBA, by an order of magnitude. He’s got the personality and character that fans love. He’s the one player the New York Knicks need to keep, not lose. Don’t let Jeremy Lin go – match the Rockets’ offer.

While it may seem odd to petition the wealthy owner of two major franchises to spend millions on a star player when the world faces other petition-worthy challenges, the Keep Lin campaign hits home because of what the young guard’s surge last season meant to New York – the basketball capital of the world, after all – and the long-suffering Knicks fan base. And the comments spurred on by the petition drive, which began after Knicks management indicated it would not match Lin’s offer sheet with the Houston Rockets, are telling indeed:

Without this kid, the Knicks would not have gone to the playoffs this year and that is a cold hard fact. He saved the season. He brought a brand of basketball to the Garden that electrified an entire city.

I’m not here to watch a talented young player and a good person get that kind of treatment. Dolan and Co., if you don’t sign him, consider me and a ton of other people across the Brooklyn Bridge to Barclays.

Jeremy not only saved the Knicks season last year, he made the city magical. The city needs all of the magic it can get. And the Knicks need Lin.

The Garden is dysfunctional. if you let Lin walk, you can sign away half of your fanbase to the Brooklyn Nets or the Houston Rockets. This is one of the worst basketball decisions I’ve ever witnessed…

If the Knicks let Jeremy Lin go, it will alienate the fan base for a generation. My friends and I grew up Knicks fans, but we all gave up on the team after years of mismanagement. Lin made us fans again, for the first time in years. He made New Yorkers fans again. You think it’s expensive to keep Lin? Just wait to see how expensive it is to operate a basketball team with no fan base.

And those are the more mild reactions. One point gets made over and over again by the petition signers – and it was cannily echoed by Forbes sports business writer Tom Van Riper – the new Brooklyn Nets may clearly benefit from the decision to let Lin go. They have a new home, a new arena, a new logo and look, and a new community commitment to the hippest of the outer boroughs. As Dolan lets Lin (and his incredible story) slip away, you can almost see the smile he’s planting on the face of Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov.

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7/16/2012  7:02 PM
Look im theer was a plan to get Chris paul or a pg like taht then i would understand not wnating to take on lin's contract but i think anybody would agree that lin would give us a betetr chance to win that kidd or felton
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7/16/2012  7:07 PM
If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.
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7/16/2012  7:13 PM
CashMoney wrote:If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.

we should want more people as fans of our team though...

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7/16/2012  7:17 PM
statandmelo1234 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.

we should want more people as fans of our team though...

Only if they're true fans. I've been a a Yankees fan for almost 30 years. I used to be able to get box seats on game day with my dad when they sucked. As soon as they started winning "fans" came out of the woodwork. One of the reasons why the new stadium sucks.

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7/16/2012  7:27 PM
CashMoney wrote:If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.

I've been a Knicks fan for 20yrs, too. And this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen them do. Which is saying something. I'm not going to root for any other team, but I'm going to have a hard time caring. Why bother caring when Dolan's whims take precedence over everything else?

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7/16/2012  7:29 PM
been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together
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7/16/2012  7:32 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

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7/16/2012  7:34 PM
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.
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7/16/2012  7:36 PM
crzymdups wrote:
CashMoney wrote:If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.

I've been a Knicks fan for 20yrs, too. And this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen them do. Which is saying something. I'm not going to root for any other team, but I'm going to have a hard time caring. Why bother caring when Dolan's whims take precedence over everything else?

I'd prefer to have Lin back as well but am preparing myself to move on. I the Knicks would be better with Lin but how much better is yet to be seen. Even without Lin I truly believe this is a 50+ win team that will make noise in the playoffs next year.

I 100% understand the emotional side of it. Linsanity was amazing and was a good time.

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7/16/2012  7:37 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.

Melo is the new Eli/A-Rod. When he wins it will all be forgotten.

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7/16/2012  7:38 PM
Here's another roundtable discussion.

The gist: the Knicks probably shouldn't match, Lin and Houston makes sense, Felton's not going to set the world on fire anytime soon, and our beloved Knicks will once again be also-rans with our without him. Interesting read.

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7/16/2012  7:39 PM
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.

Melo is the new Eli/A-Rod. When he wins it will all be forgotten.

The problem is that there is a better shot of jimmy hoffa showing up
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IrishKnickFan wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.

Melo is the new Eli/A-Rod. When he wins it will all be forgotten.

The problem is that there is a better shot of jimmy hoffa showing up

The same thing that was said about Eli. I believe Melo will deliver the same way I believed that Ewing would. Ewing couldn't do it alone and Melo can't do it without Stat.

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7/16/2012  7:44 PM
CashMoney wrote:If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.
I've been a Knicks fan for nearly 50 years and if there's one thing in sports I can't stand it's a holier than thouer.
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7/16/2012  7:44 PM
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.

Melo is the new Eli/A-Rod. When he wins it will all be forgotten.

The problem is that there is a better shot of jimmy hoffa showing up

The same thing that was said about Eli. I believe Melo will deliver the same way I believed that Ewing would. Ewing couldn't do it alone and Melo can't do it without Stat.

I hope so man i have lived through two nba finals with this team. the 1994 finals broke my heart but i loved that team. the only way we have a shot is if melo cuts down on teh isos and gets his teams involved more like lebron does but liek i said i dont see melo doing that unfortunetly
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7/16/2012  7:45 PM
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.

Melo is the new Eli/A-Rod. When he wins it will all be forgotten.

The problem is that there is a better shot of jimmy hoffa showing up

The same thing that was said about Eli. I believe Melo will deliver the same way I believed that Ewing would. Ewing couldn't do it alone and Melo can't do it without Stat.

Ewing gave 110% every single night. He left the court having defended every possession and done his best to win.

You can rarely say that about Melo. He's just not consistent, but he seems to feel entitled like he should be treated the same as Durant or Lebron.

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7/16/2012  7:47 PM
crzymdups wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:been a knick fan since the 80's. Grew up watching the 90's knicks and was spoiled since thos eteams always made noise in the playoffs and came within a hair of winnign a title. The last 12 years have been painful. Im not saying lin would have made us a contender but it would have been nice to see what he a shumpert could do together

Yeah, the Knicks teams with Lin, Shumpert and Tyson on the floor were my favorite since the 99 team. Maybe even the 92-95 teams. Just felt like they were all completely unselfish and tried hard and defended and had special skills which would only get better with time.

I get none of that from Melo. And every time I talk myself into Melo he does or says something that makes me wish we'd never traded for him.

I am a knicks fan so will root for melo but i just dont understand him soemtimes. the guy has so much takkent but he seems insecure and if things dont go his way he stops trying to tunes out.

Melo is the new Eli/A-Rod. When he wins it will all be forgotten.

The problem is that there is a better shot of jimmy hoffa showing up

The same thing that was said about Eli. I believe Melo will deliver the same way I believed that Ewing would. Ewing couldn't do it alone and Melo can't do it without Stat.

Ewing gave 110% every single night. He left the court having defended every possession and done his best to win.

You can rarely say that about Melo. He's just not consistent, but he seems to feel entitled like he should be treated the same as Durant or Lebron.

Its true i wish melo was better tahn lebron or durant buts he just isnt in their league. I mean throughout his career melo has had a good supporting cast and he hasnt been able to really make noise in the playoffs. Now i think melo is a better person than lebron but lets be honets lebron took a scrub team and made them a eastern powerhouse for years
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7/16/2012  7:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2012  7:59 PM
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CashMoney wrote:If people stop rooting for the Knicks because Lin goes to the Rockets than good riddance. Most of the people who started cheering for the Knicks recently did so only because of Lin. I've been a Knicks fan for over 20 years and if there is one thing in sports I can't stand it's a bandwagoner.

I've been a Knicks fan for 20yrs, too. And this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen them do. Which is saying something. I'm not going to root for any other team, but I'm going to have a hard time caring. Why bother caring when Dolan's whims take precedence over everything else?

He has been the best thing that happened to us since Spree.
He made the entire city, the NBA, the whole underdog story, and united TEAM WORK with 2nd unit players.
It is not his fault, the Knicks over payed for their "star players", and they do not make anyone around them better.

I have been a supporter of the franchise since the 80s and it has been a rough decade.
The way that Lin makes everyone else around him better vs Melo/Amare unable to play efficient basketball.
He made the game more exciting than anyone on the Knicks in in his 30 games, breaking all records, MAKING THE TEAM MORE EFFICIENT, MAKING MORE FANS, and MAKING 2nd unit player WIN.
Lin has supported Melo, Amare, and gave credit to the entire roster EVERY GAME, with JJ, Tyson Chandler, Iman, Novak, and everyone on the team by SHARING the ball.

While some condemn Lin while Melo demands a trade here for a max salary, while we gave up half the roster for him, and multiple draft picks.
IT IS NOT HIS FAULT that the Knicks are paying luxury tax, IT IS THE KNICKs that decided to give out all those contracts prior to Lin.
Melo makes much more on at a multiyear deal and he has an opt out right before 2015, he has the ability to take less money, for the better of the team, but will he?
He kicks Lin with JR Smith down right now, making it even harder for Lin to want to return to the team with the drama.
Is that how you treat a teammate, that supported you, defended you, and tried to cover for you to the media?
Will he be seeking a MAX contract at a age of 32?

Does Melo make anyone around him better? He does not attract the fans as Lin does around the world.
Lin was making the bare minimum while The Knicks, The NBA, and corporations were making billions of the kid.
Instead the origination, turns their attention to Steve Nash on day 1, without offering Lin a contract.
Melo kicks him down, so he can be the alpha of the team and continue to make NO ONE around him better.
And in 2 years, he can demand a max salary....but that is okay with Dolan?

IF Dolan lets the kid that lit up the ENTIRE CITY and THE WHOLE WORLD for NOTHING in return, how can anyone stand it.
MANY OF US HERE WERE DIE HARD FANS way before Lin, way before SPREE....
SO NO, WE ARE NO LIN BANDWAGONS...
BUT NO, WE CANNOT STAND FOR THIS, NO MORE, WE CANNOT STAND LETTING THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO US GO FOR NOTHING FOR DOLAN'S EGO and MELO'S SPOT LIGHT!
It is not his fault, the CBA allow's these poison pills, it is not his fault, he is seeking his maximum value while he can.
Melo and Amare did it, while we traded for Melo when we didn't have to.
Kobe has 30m contract at multi years......

I will not watch MELO GO 1v1 and make no one better, as he will continue to be a STAT WHORE so he can command another MAX CONTRACT and become another Knicks BUST, leading no one anywhere, making no one better.

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7/16/2012  8:00 PM
My 63yr old mother has not watched a knick game since the knicks went to the finals...
back then she never missed a game and she wasn't even a major basketball fan..

after lins game against the lakers, she watched every knick game for the remainder of the season, was calling me up talking about the game with such joy..

The kid brought fans back to the game, these are not bandwaggoners, there fans that have wanted to come back but never had a good reason to do so..WAKE THE F UP DOLAN

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