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ESPN 5-on-5 - Every single ESPN writer says Lin better than Felton and 4/5 say Knicks should match "unquestionably"
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7/16/2012  4:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2012  4:23 PM
2. Better point guard for the Knicks: Raymond Felton or Jeremy Lin?


Abbott: Raymond Felton has never overseen a period of team play nearly as successful as Linsanity. We know him well enough as a player to know there is zero risk of Felton making the Knicks a whole different and better team. For him, being an average NBA point guard would be a pleasant surprise. What are the chances Lin will change the team's fortunes? It's possible, which makes Lin far more valuable.

Adande: If the Knicks consider anything less than advancing in the playoffs this season a failure (and they should) then the answer is Felton. If you're going to win in the playoffs it helps to have a point guard with playoff experience. Lin might be a better long-term solution … if there weren't the issue of the long-term implications of his contract.

Hollinger: Ha ha ha ha ha. I've spent enough time in Portland to know the answer is "not Felton." He had his best year in New York under Mike D'Antoni, but that was two years and about 20 pounds ago. Plus, he won't have the ball in his hands now, and he's not a floor spacer.

Gutierrez: Lin is the better fit and has greater potential. Felton played some of his best basketball in Mike D'Antoni's system, as did Lin. But Lin did it with less experience, had more explosive scoring games and has better size. So it's safe to assume that even in a less-point-guard-dominated system, Lin can still be the better player.

Stein: I know lots of people think Lin is merely a product of Mike D'Antoni's system … which, by the way, must have something to do with D'Antoni after all if Lin, however briefly, can put up Nashian numbers running it. But I'm not one of those people. Lin is long, athletic and supremely confident in his own ability. He did enough in those 25 games of Linsanity to earn the benefit of the doubt with me. I'm not going to write him off post-D'Antoni when he's barely had the chance yet. Also: Weren't Felton's best days as a Knick with D'Antoni, too?

Thorpe: Lin today, Lin tomorrow. I guess it's possible that Felton can find better form than he has, but Lin is a much safer bet. At least we know he's on an upswing still. Has Felton ever had a better month than Lin had, despite far more opportunities to do so? No.


5. Should the Knicks match the Rockets' offer?


Abbott: It doesn't matter all that much. The Knicks like to act like they're making these league-changing decisions all the time, but they're perennially mediocre regardless. Maybe it's not rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, but it's rearranging the deck chairs on some mediocre, overpriced cruise. The only reason not to would be if they have a plan to bring in a real game-changer with that cap space, which they might. But so long as we're talking about a team dominated by Carmelo isolations, it doesn't matter all that much which four players are watching.

Adande: No. If they're going to be based on Carmelo Anthony (as they should, given how much they did to get him) and they're going to continue to keep Amare Stoudemire on the payroll, it doesn't make financial sense (from a salary cap/luxury tax perspective) to have Lin around three years from now … especially when he isn't a great basketball fit with Carmelo, either. As much as Carmelo might try to spin it otherwise, this does come down to either/or. The city might be big enough for Lin and Carmelo, but the court and payroll aren't.

Hollinger: Yes. Lin's first two years are cheap and his marketability makes him worth almost any price anyway.

Gutierrez: Yes. You're not adding much with Raymond Felton. At least with Lin you have potential. If he develops into a scoring guard, or into an effective, consistent distributor, they will be a better team. The Knicks have never shied away from dishing out dollars, and this should be no different. Again, if finances become a problem, they can always be fixed.

Stein: Unquestionably. Match it and trade Lin after this season if it doesn't work. They will find a taker if necessary. And please don't give me this nonsense about Lin's contract being untradeable because of the Year 3 spike to $15 million. Joe Johnson just got traded, people. Jeremy Lin can be moved if New York is no longer the place for him.

Thorpe: Not keeping Lin would be perhaps the single dumbest move a team has made since paying Gilbert Arenas, and then another team traded for him. He's probably going to be overpaid by $9 million in Year 3, but will make the Dolan family at least that much by then. Or another team, like Golden State, would love to trade for him and get the same off-court bang for their buck.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-120716/nba-knicks-let-lin-leave

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7/16/2012  4:35 PM
Another voice saying the Knicks have to match Lin:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/york-knicks-match-jeremy-lin-contract-offer-ensure-201648995--nba.html

As it usually does, when anything of significance happens to Jeremy Lin, the internet caught fire over the weekend when rumors leaked from several outfits about the likelihood of the New York Knicks matching Houston's contract offer to the restricted free agent. The Rockets had signed Lin to a backloaded contract offer that would pay him a below average salary during the first two years of a 3-year, $25.1 million deal, before ballooning to $14.5 million in the third year of the contract. The Knicks, suddenly sensible as the rumors would have it, would not match.

Though New York has until late Tuesday to match the Rockets' offer, just the thought of the team passing on retaining their 2011-12 phenomenon was met with outrage from even the most financially-aware of Knicks fans. The absurdity of it all was heightened, and we're not making light of this matter, when former All-Star and would-be mentor Knick guard Jason Kidd was arrested for a possible DWI after a Sunday morning SUV crash.

Because of New York's current payroll and the onset of a new, nastier luxury tax, the team would end up paying Lin around $30 million for his services in the final year of his deal, and a tax hit of anywhere between $35 and $45 million as reported by the New York Times. Tossed onto New York's already-massive payroll, that's quite a fee. And it's a fee the Knicks have to pay. Absolutely, and utterly, have to.

He has to stay for reasons that aren't a knockout in any regard, but ones that stack up once you realize that this move is years in the making, even if it took New York and the NBA until February of 2012 just to determine how good Lin could be.

Questions about how good he can be, even after that sterling month of play last winter, are legitimate and the answer is years away from being sized up appropriately. As we attempted to point out incessantly during his run last February, much of Lin's work came against less than stellar teams, and coincided with an improved defensive bent from the Knicks that would really take hold once coach Mike Woodson took over the squad to end the regular season. His individual numbers, save for turnovers, left him with a borderline All-Star statline, but the sample size and competition level still make him a hard sell merely as a starter some five months later.

Much less a starter costing a team the same salary that Michael Jordan cost the Bulls in Chicago's 69-win year of 1996-97. If we're going to think finances first, though, we can still argue away Lin's cost to New York.

His was the hottest name in New York during the end of a dispute between the Knicks' MSG-brand and Time Warner cable, and many credited Lin's play with forcing Time Warner's hand as they agreed to MSG's terms and ended their Knick game blackout. MSG stock rose significantly once Lin took over as Knicks starter and turned in back to back Sports Illustrated covers, and it has fallen precipitously as news of his potential departure looms — and that's for a player that hasn't played a minute of NBA basketball since suffering a MCL tear on March 24th. "Linsanity" has faded, in a day-to-day realm, and yet deep into summer just rumors about a man who hasn't played in nearly four months are setting the tickers off.

Adding to that is the continued revenue that the Knicks would receive in terms of global sponsorships, local ratings, national TV cherry-picking by the NBA, and merchandise sales. By the time I flew into a LaGuardia Airport that was strewn with Lin jerseys in late February of this year, you felt as if the Knicks were just a win away from their first championship in 40 years and Lin leading the ticker tape parade.

In February, it felt that way. February.

And the real, actual basketball end of this? Lin's potential gets New York closer to that parade. Amar'e Stoudemire could go at any time. Carmelo Anthony might be in his prime. Tyson Chandler might tire soon due to overuse after playing deep in 2011, and following up this season with an appearance on Team USA. The Knicks need to develop Lin, but they also need someone to contribute right away. Considering the options already on the Knicks, Lin in just his third year still might be that guy.

In his absence sits (usually) Raymond Felton, a point guard that has been seriously overvalued in his previous stops in Charlotte and New York before turning into a shortened season that made him the biggest villain in Portland we've seen since a can of a beer with a born-on date. He's in his prime, and he's not that great. He could improve with a better training regimen, to be sure, but he's no answer.

Lin, with his ability to dominate the ball and pass creatively, could be. Lin, with his best years ahead of him, could be. The Knicks, who have dug their own grave with years of payroll abuse, have to make Jeremy Lin a part of their team. They can afford him (or, at worst, they can't afford to try not to), they can work around the terms of that final year with smartly-placed transactions, and he's working from a position that New York badly needs help at.

This isn't a knee jerk response to — after years of tossing money at limited players — New York's sudden fiscal sensibility. Sudden rumored fiscal sensibility. Though that was our initial reaction, to bring up Jerome James and dealing one maximum contract for another, newer one under Isiah Thomas' leadership, this have leveled since then. And the level-headed move, even for New York and even understanding the severity of that final year and Lin's still-developing game, is for New York to match this contract offer.

They have to. This is no time to stop taking chances.

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7/16/2012  4:54 PM
Nearly every SI writer came to the opposite conclusion, but seemed to think he'd be amazing on the rockets:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/16/jeremy-lin-knicks-rockets-roundtable/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t12_a0

Which I suspect will be the standard media line- we keep him, the contracts terrible, he's average etc, we don't match and we let a franchise player go, great pick up for rockets, etc etc

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7/16/2012  4:57 PM
smackeddog wrote:Nearly every SI writer came to the opposite conclusion, but seemed to think he'd be amazing on the rockets:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/16/jeremy-lin-knicks-rockets-roundtable/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t12_a0

Which I suspect will be the standard media line- we keep him, the contracts terrible, he's average etc, we don't match and we let a franchise player go, great pick up for rockets, etc etc

yeah, that sounds about right.

also, if he goes to the rockets there will be a lot of stories about how much Dolan sucks, too. it's more fun for the media if Lin leaves. i guess.

i'd rather have a good team on the court.

the NY Post who is right making stories about how expensive Lin would be will be the first to point out how successful he is on the Rockets.

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