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7/8/2012  12:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2012  1:02 PM
Any notable additions to the SL roster? Read somewhere we had added JR's little brother, but other then that....nada
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7/8/2012  1:31 PM
I wonder of white will play. Knicks may move td, jortsand jordan
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7/8/2012  1:41 PM
http://secretrival.blogspot.com/2012/07/2012-nba-summer-league-rosters.html?spref=tw


Chris Copeland - Aalstar (Belgium)
Toney Douglas - Knicks
Josh Harrelson - Knicks
Jerome Jordan - Knicks
Chris Smith - Louisville (Undrafted FA)

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7/8/2012  2:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2012  2:48 PM


Hollis Thompson is a 6'8 NBA Draft prospect who played his college basketball at Georgetown. Thompson is training at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas.
Thompson's jumper is deadly from NBA three point range and he worked very hard on his ball handling during his time in Las Vegas.


Alex Young

NBA Comparison: Josh Howard
Strengths: A nice all-around scorer ... Good size at 6'6" with a solid wingspan ... Projects to the shooting guard position well in the NBA ... Very fluid runner with a quick first-step ... Explosive athlete, capable of finishing above the rim ... Nice, though perhaps streaky, outside shooter ... Has NBA range and a quick, confident trigger from the perimeter ... Solid handle, though he's clearly uncomfortable going to his right (he's left-handed) ... Aggressive driver, which really complements his perimeter ability ... Gets around the rim, creating contact and close-range opportunities for himself ... Has drastically improved his free-throw shooting ability every year in his collegiate career which is a testament to his strong work-ethic ... Very strong rebounder for a wing ... A willing passer ... Moves well without the ball ... Doesn't dominate the ball like someone with his ability could, which is a promising attribute for a potential role-player in the NBA ... Has all of the physical tools to be an above-average defender at the next level ...

Weaknesses: Doesn't display a very good shot-selection ... Can be reckless and prone to turning the ball over ... Decision-making could stand to improve ... Doesn't work very hard to fight through screens on defense ... Is playing for IUPUI in the Summit League, so while he's putting up great numbers, it's against subpar competition (at least compared to a lot of other prospects) ...

Overall: Might be best sited as an explosive bench scorer, where his offensive ability can be fully utilized without having to be burdened with the responsibility of a starter ... Another one of those prospects who is going to fly under a lot of radars, but can contribute at the next level ... Young's skill-set, size and athleticism will give him the chance to make an impact in the NBA ...

Henry Sims

NBA Comparison: Udonis Haslem
Strengths: Jones has quicker feet than his body shape would suggest, which he uses to track down offensive boards and loose balls... Once a shot goes up, he knows how to effectively position himself under the glass, and has strong reactionary and adjustment skills... Offensively he has a soft touch from the midrange, which has expanded out to almost 22 feet away... He's much more comfortable shooting off the catch than he is off the dribble, which is understandable considering how little he puts the ball on the floor facing up... He's shown confidence, comfort and rhythm as a shooter, which will be crucial in terms of maximizing his potential services as an NBA power forward... With his back to the basket, Jones excels using a few power dribbles before turning left, shielding the ball with his body and using the angle and backboard to convert easy buckets... Also seems comfortable with his over the shoulder hook in the post... Facing up he uses jab steps to create separation, rise and fire... High motor player, consistently active in the paint... Highly competitive and driven individual ...

Weaknesses: Jones is not a great athlete and lacks fluidity and explosiveness... He plays under the rim, which is worrisome considering he's a bit undersized for the natural power forward position... Tends to drift out on the perimeter too often, and is only shooting 28% from downtown... 3.8 free throw attempts per game is not enough considering his 6'8, 260lb frame... Definitely stronger upper body than lower... He could be a liability defending stronger 4s in the post, while defending 3s on the perimeter is not a likely option... overall has a low ceiling as a prospect

Overall: Jones leads the Big East both in scoring and rebounding, and has been the most consistent player in the conference throughout his senior year, and he's the leading candidate to win POY ... While it took him three years to come around, he's increased his rebounding rate dramatically, which will be needed if he wants to play regular rotational minutes...There will be plenty of teams in the market for an active interior presence who can step out and knock down 20 footers, and considering his low risk/low reward status, late first round to early second seems like a reasonable landing range


John Sherna 6-7 220 SF Northeastern Sr

NBA Comparison: Omar Cook
Strengths: A pure, pass-first point guard, Machado's best attribute is his incredible floor vision both in the half court and transition ... The game just slows down for Machado, whose excellent anticipation as a passer meshes with his roving peripheral vision ... Works the drive and dish game effectively, hitting his shooters in rhythm on the perimeter and cutters in stride through the lane ... Good athlete, not great, with a quick first step and a nice burst off the dribble hesitation and over screens ... Shows nice touch on finesse shots over the interior line of defense ... Improved his 3pt percentage to 40% as a senior, showing fluent mechanics and a sense of comfort shooting both off the dribble and the catch ... Excellent control and decision-making running the break ... Shows a strong ability to protect the ball (3-1 a/to ratio) ...

Weaknesses: Machado is not an overwhelming athlete or speed merchant, which is generally required for most 6'1 average sized point guards ... Lacks explosion, which will make finishing around the rim a challenge at the next level ... Won't get you a ton of points as a scorer (only scored over 20 once all season) ... He's vulnerable defending in isolation, which will be an issue against stronger and quicker NBA point guards ... Playing in the MAAC, he doesn't face the level of competition of say a Kendall Marshall or Marquis Teague, which could strike fear in the minds of scouts who will be comparing and evaluating...

Overall: Machado leads the nation in assists at over 10 a game... His passing makes himk intriguing but he has some physical limitations that raise question marks about his ability to make the transition ... However with so few pure point guards available, Machado is likely to remain on draft boards throughout the predraft process... His elite quarterback instincts, ability to make teammates better and questionable physical tools give him a shot to be drafted and stick ...


Tu Holloway

NBA Comparison:

Strengths: Tough as nails combo guard who wants the ball in his hands in big situations. Shows great confidence in taking the last second shot, accounting for many late game heroics... True leader really since sophomore year at Xavier ... Has massive hands (like Rondo), which allow him to control the ball with great confidence; also allows him to excel as a defender ... Despite being primarily a scorer, Holloway has stepped up his point guard abilities with developing passing skills ... Very smooth, rarely losing his composure during a game ... Solid athlete. Proven to be very efficient in transition

Weaknesses: Undersized, combo guard. Likely just 5'11 in shoes ... For a player that is known for being a scorer, his jumpshot is unorthodox and lacks a clean release ... Relies heavily on his jump shot, often times leading to low percentage fadeaways ... Will have trouble getting his jump shot off efficiently, as he does not display ideal height against the top point guards in the NBA ... Must learn to take on more of a point guard role rather than a score-first mentality ... Does not possess top-tier speed as a point guard, but is able to control the game at his own pace ... Although an excellent penetrator, he has difficulty doing so in the half court game; it is only in fastbreak opportunities that we truly see Holloway’s speed and ability to attack the rim ... Go to shot is off the dribble, which leads to predictability for those defending him ... Three point percentage has gone down over time ...

Notes: Drew some unnecessary attention to himself after the brawl vs. Cincinnati; even quoted in an ESPN article saying that basketball is no longer fun. Also came accross negatively with his unfortunate postgame comments, which didn't do his draft stock any favors ...

Will Barton let us get an inside look at a recent NBA Draft Workout in Houston, Texas.
Barton is a 6'6 prospect who has an amazing ability to create his own shot.
Barton has a game that should translate well to the NBA game.

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7/8/2012  2:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2012  9:56 AM

Kevin Jones is playing for Cleveland.
Tu Holloway is playing for Toronto.
John Shurna is playing for Atlanta.
Henry Sims is playing for Utah.
Alex Young is playing for Sacramento.

Only guy on this list not currently on a roster is Hollis Thompson.

And Tony Mitchell is playing for Sacramento as well. Damn, I was hoping to see him try out for NY.

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7/8/2012  2:56 PM
Andy Rautins is in the summer league, playing for Milwaukee.
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7/8/2012  3:02 PM
Thompson and Machado would both be good.
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7/8/2012  3:15 PM
Knixkik wrote:Thompson and Machado would both be good.

Machado is playing for Houston. Smart move for them.

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7/8/2012  3:27 PM
JohnStarksFan wrote:Andy Rautins is in the summer league, playing for Milwaukee.

Rautins is getting old. 27?

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7/8/2012  3:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2012  3:31 PM
JohnStarksFan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Thompson and Machado would both be good.

Machado is playing for Houston. Smart move for them.

yeah, but if we do trade TD, I think it would be worth a roster spot for him to be one of Kidd's apprentice as well as Lin.
I believe you we can still sign him, summer league isn't a NBA contract, I think.
Besides, I am sure he would love to play at home.

I really like Alex Young and Hollis Thompsin, I think they 2 G/Fs that are ready to contribute and fills a need at a cheap cost.
Henry Sims would be good for a Camby/Tyson Chandler to mentor.

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7/9/2012  7:45 AM
anyone else like anyone on this list?

I really think we should give Alex Young and Hollis Thompson an invite, they can be that G/F that can contribute right now, till Iman is healthy.

I like Machado and Henry Sims, so Kidd/Tyson *maybe Camby* can mentor these rooks, if we sign those vets to multi year deals.

I think most of these guys can contribute to our roster but picking 2-3 yoots would be ideal, especially if we trade TD, Jordan, or whoever, for even more roster spots.
Novak and JJ are not locks to come back as well.

Shurna could be a younger Novak with a Kevin Martin type of a shot.

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7/9/2012  8:10 AM
Tony D better dominate the Summer League so we can trade him. Houston reportedly actually likes him. Better not screw up the Camby trade
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7/9/2012  2:07 PM
Just got this from MSG:

KNICKS TO PLAY IN 2012 NBA SUMMER LEAGUE
Douglas, Harrellson & Jordan Headline New York’s Entry

NEW YORK, July 9, 2012 – The New York Knickerbockers today announced their roster for the 2012 NBA Summer League, to be held in Las Vegas from Jul. 14-20. Third-year guard Toney Douglas and second-year centers Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan headline the 15-man roster.

New York will play five games at Cox Pavilion on the campus of the University of Nevada-Las Vegas, beginning on Jul. 14. All games are scheduled to start at 1:00 p.m. Pacific time and will be aired live on MSG Network at 4 p.m. Eastern time. MSG will repeat the games each evening at 8 p.m. Eastern (with the exception of Tuesday, Jul. 17) and this will mark the sixth consecutive NBA Summer League that MSG has aired all five games.

In addition, the team is scheduled to hold five practices with media availability following each session.
The team’s itinerary is as follows:

Practice Schedule
Wednesday, July 11................. 5:30 p.m. (Cox Pavilion Game Court)
Thursday, July 12................ 11:00 a.m. (Cox Pavilion Practice Court)
Friday, July 13..................... 11:00 a.m. (Cox Pavilion Practice Court)
................................................... 5:00 p.m. (Thomas & Mack Center)
Monday, July 16.................... 3:30 p.m. (Cox Pavilion Practice Court)

Games at Cox Pavilion
Saturday, July 14. vs. Memphis...... 1:00 p.m.
Sunday, July 15... vs. Phoenix....... 1:00 p.m.
Tuesday, July 17.. vs. Denver........ 1:00 p.m.
Thursday, July 19. vs. Toronto........ 1:00 p.m.
Friday, July 20..... vs. Cleveland.... 1:00 p.m.

* - all times are Pacific time zone


2012 New York Knicks Summer League Roster

No Player Pos Ht Wt Born College/Country 2011-12 Team Yrs Pro
31 Jeff Brooks F 6-8 215 Jun. 12, 1989 Penn State/USA Fileni BPA/Italy R
14 Chris Copeland G 6-8 224 Mar. 17, 1984 Colorado/USA Okapi Aalstar/Belgium R
23 Toney Douglas G 6-2 185 Mar. 16, 1986 Florida State/USA New York/NBA 3
5 Mustapha Farrakhan G 6-4 181 Nov. 2, 1988 Virginia/USA Bakersfield/NBA D-League R
54 Kyle Goldcamp F 6-10 250 Jun. 10, 1986 Gannon/USA Erie/NBA D-League R
55 Josh Harrellson F/C 6-10 275 Feb. 12, 1989 Kentucky/USA New York/NBA 1
44 Jerome Jordan C 7-0 240 Sep. 29, 1986 Tulsa/Jamacia New York/NBA 1
45 Ahmad Nivins F 6-9 207 Feb. 10, 1987 Saint Joseph’s/USA Mons-Hainaut/Belgium R
52 Artsiom Parakhouski C 6-9 207 Jun. 10, 1987 Radford/Belarus Budivelnyk/Ukraine R
3 Jeremiah Rivers G 6-5 210 Jul. 27, 1987 Indiana/USA Mega Vizura/Serbia R
13 Walker Russell, Jr. G 6-0 170 Oct. 6, 1982 Jacksonville State/USA Detroit/NBA 1
4 Chris Smith G 6-2 195 Oct. 13, 1987 Louisville/USA Louisville/NCAA R
11 Mychel Thompson G/F 6-6 211 Jun. 1, 1988 Pepperdine/USA Erie, Cleveland/D-League, NBA 1
18 Terrance Withers G 5-11 175 Jan. 27, 1983 Arkansas Tech/USA Arkansas Tech/NCAA R
25 Wesley Witherspoon F 6-9 207 Jan. 27, 1990 Memphis/USA Memphis/NCAA R

Head Coach: Mike Woodson (Indiana)
Assistant Coaches: Kenny Atkinson (Richmond)
Jim Todd (Fitchburg State)
Darrell Walker (Arkansas)
Herb Williams (Ohio State)
Head Athletic Trainer: Roger Hinds (Brooklyn College)
Assistant Athletic Trainer: Anthony Goenaga (Long Island University)

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7/9/2012  2:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2012  2:18 PM
Nivins is that PF we got the draft rights to from Dallas in the Tyson trade- interested to see if he's any good. It says on draftexpress he tore his ACL in 2010/2011.
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7/9/2012  2:41 PM
Thanks Martin, was just going to update this thread but you beat me to it. I would have posted it first if it weren't for these darn bad knees :)
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7/9/2012  3:33 PM
damn man, I really like Alex Young and Hollis Thomspon as G/Fs.
They didn't grab any of the top undrafted players at all...

god damn these people, I just have a feeling we will miss out on some good role players in this deep draft once again.
Briggs, usually picks spots a few of them every year.

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7/9/2012  9:46 PM
we should be looking for some of these players here to fill our roster.

With other players that are on other summer league teams, pick them up, before we go to war with Jersey for them.

Getting 1st dibs on undrafted players and solid veteran minimum prospects, to fill up some roster spots first.

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7/10/2012  9:43 AM
While we have Kidd, we should find another young pg to bring in and learn from Kidd. We also need another sg/sf to develop.
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7/10/2012  9:54 AM
WESLEY WITHERSPOON!
I'll be happy as hell if he grabs a spot!
And RonRon I already told you Alex Young is on another team already brother.

Copeland was the best player in the Belgium league and was an early addition to summer league. He could play the 2, so that's interesting.

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7/10/2012  10:03 AM
Jeremiah Rivers... interesting. Doc's older kid.
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