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7/5/2012  8:33 PM
I'm not sure if posting a whole article is allowed, but if not, feel free to truncate it since the link's already here.

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James Dolan tried. He really did. But he just couldn’t pull it off.

After years of watching the New York Knicks spin their wheels under his handpicked stagemaster, Isiah Thomas, Dolan appeared to have finally bitten the bullet by hiring respected basketball executive Donnie Walsh and letting him rebuild the team.

The move gradually paid off. Walsh spent two seasons clearing salary cap room as the losses continued to mount. But by 2010, the house was cleaned. Coach Mike D’ Antoni was running an exciting, team-oriented offense. Amare Stoudemire, who had demonstrated in Phoenix how well he fit D’ Anoni’s style, came aboard as a free agent to be the offensive centerpiece. No championship-caliber team yet, but things were clicking. The Knicks took a big step from lousy to competitive. Fans were into the new style and looking ahead to a bright future.

Still, Dolan had to have him. The course he’d let Walsh take, the one that was showing so much progress, went out the window in favor of immediate gratification, a Dolan trademark. Carmelo Anthony meant a true leading man for New York‘s big stage and for the Knicks’ cable outlet, MSG Network. His No. 7 would sell a ton of jerseys.

The Knicks struggled early in the 2011-12 season, the result of an offense that mainly consisted of coming down the floor and watching Anthony take a shot. It was an injury to Anthony and the improbable rise of Jeremy Lin at point guard that kick started the season and got the Knicks back on the national radar. The ball moved, the points came in bunches and Madison Square Garden roared. Later, when Anthony returned, the club, trying to mix fluid ball movement with isolation, struggled to make it work. D’Antoni didn’t last the season.

And now the team is again burdened with a tight salary cap as it tries to take the next step. Lin is now looking over a lucrative four-year offer from the Houston Rockets, one described by my colleague Allen St. John and others as a ”poison pill” on the basis of its back-loaded structure that would hit the Knicks’ salary cap hard by the the third year. Lin still hasn’t signed the offer sheet. But assuming he does, the Knicks will be forced to choose between 1) losing out on a guy they probably could have had for less had they moved more quickly to sign him, or 2) committing serious money for a player who may turn out to be mediocre over the long haul, with the financial commitment preventing them from going after other players.

The club wouldn’t be in this pickle had they resisted the urge to sign Anthony, who brings more than a $60 million salary cap hit over the next three years. This isn’t to suggest that Lin is necessarily the long term solution - his career sample size is to small to tell just yet. Nor is it to vilify Anthony, one of the NBA’s elite scorers. He just wasn’t the right fit for the plan the Knicks had in place. The league has been waiting for years to reap the financial benfits of a strong contender in New York. Now David Stern & Co. may be back at square one. The Knicks may even be on the verge of being overtaken in their own backyard by the Brooklyn Nets. All because James Dolan risked millions in future postseason revenue in favor of selling a bunch of Carmelo Anthony jerseys.

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7/5/2012  8:38 PM
1) losing out on a guy they probably could have had for less had they moved more quickly to sign him

This is complete hearsay. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Lin wouldn't have tested the market no matter what we would have done; hell, it would have been irresponsible of him not to.

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7/5/2012  8:39 PM
I don't know what this writer is talking about.
We're talking about a future 4-time all-star starting PG in Jeremy Lin. I don't know what he means to the Luxury Tax, but the Knicks will get superb return on investment with him.

Whether they win a championship or not, well, that's another question, and it won't be because of Lin's big contract, because they're set up to be well over the cap anyway whether he signed for $5m/yr in years 3 & 4 vs the reported $9.x.

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7/5/2012  8:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2012  8:44 PM
Paging Alexander FuSheng.....maybe you should read this exerpt and become enlightened.....

"And now the team is again burdened with a tight salary cap as it tries to take the next step. Lin is now looking over a lucrative four-year offer from the Houston Rockets, one described by my colleague Allen St. John and others as a ”poison pill” on the basis of its back-loaded structure that would hit the Knicks’ salary cap hard by the the third year. Lin still hasn’t signed the offer sheet. But assuming he does, the Knicks will be forced to choose between 1) losing out on a guy they probably could have had for less had they moved more quickly to sign him, or 2) committing serious money for a player who may turn out to be mediocre over the long haul, with the financial commitment preventing them from going after other players."
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7/5/2012  8:48 PM
this is a stupid article. grunwald wanted to pay market price for lin and he will and it's reasonable.
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7/5/2012  8:50 PM
Is this article from espn? Sports center they lead off the show saying lin is leaving broadway than brought in andade who said he expects lin to resign. Sensationalism at its finest
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7/5/2012  8:51 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Is this article from espn? Sports center they lead off the show saying lin is leaving broadway than brought in andade who said he expects lin to resign. Sensationalism at its finest

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7/5/2012  11:11 PM
VCoug wrote:
1) losing out on a guy they probably could have had for less had they moved more quickly to sign him

This is complete hearsay. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Lin wouldn't have tested the market no matter what we would have done; hell, it would have been irresponsible of him not to.

Watch it you're using logic which baffles most anti-Knick posters!

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7/5/2012  11:29 PM
Sounds like he pulled it from what some joker on realgm posted and slipped it past his editor. Or maybe he got his info here,
his career sample size is to small to tell just yet.
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7/6/2012  6:37 AM
VCoug wrote:
1) losing out on a guy they probably could have had for less had they moved more quickly to sign him

This is complete hearsay. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Lin wouldn't have tested the market no matter what we would have done; hell, it would have been irresponsible of him not to.


It's strange though. If there's a team option on the fourth year of the Houston offer, then we actually could have offered Lin more guaranteed money than Houston did.
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7/6/2012  6:41 AM
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VCoug wrote:
1) losing out on a guy they probably could have had for less had they moved more quickly to sign him

This is complete hearsay. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Lin wouldn't have tested the market no matter what we would have done; hell, it would have been irresponsible of him not to.


It's strange though. If there's a team option on the fourth year of the Houston offer, then we actually could have offered Lin more guaranteed money than Houston did.

True, I didn't even think of that. Nevertheless, there was no way Lin wasn't going to test the free market.

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7/6/2012  7:52 AM

Dolan is inept but not today and not with Lin.

Its a respectful strategy to set the market and pay a player. It is near impossible to put a price on Lin and for him to price himself.

What is Lin really worth?

Glad he found a deal he likes and maybe he does not sign it. Maybe we give him a better deal that suits both sides needs better.

Media has to pay attention. We respectfully encouraged the kid to determine his market. Its reality.

Dolan deserves his critics but not today.

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7/6/2012  7:59 AM
What He Said

Nalod wrote:
Dolan is inept but not today and not with Lin.

Its a respectful strategy to set the market and pay a player. It is near impossible to put a price on Lin and for him to price himself.

What is Lin really worth?

Glad he found a deal he likes and maybe he does not sign it. Maybe we give him a better deal that suits both sides needs better.

Media has to pay attention. We respectfully encouraged the kid to determine his market. Its reality.

Dolan deserves his critics but not today.

Somewhere, Mike Woodson is giving thanks for the opportunity to coach the most trustable lead guard he has ever had.

Jeremy Lin will enjoy practicing against his Bay Area idol.

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7/6/2012  9:18 AM
I don't feel the Lin contract offer from Houston is as bad as it's being portrayed. $5 mil for a starting PG ....even an average one is about right. If Lin plays above average, then he is probably a bargain in first two years. The only risk is Year three at $9 mil plus .....as the fourth is a team option.

In year three of Lin's contract the Knicks will most likely be in Luxury Tax hell with perhaps $65 mil committed to Lin, Kidd, Tyson, Melo, and Stat. After that, everyone drops off ...even Lin if need be.

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7/6/2012  10:46 AM
It's amazing that paying a guy that was released and making 700k and had one amazing month 29MM and that's reasonable.

The article is valid. Dolan panicked and had to have his guy when there were better options out there.

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7/6/2012  10:55 AM
MS wrote:It's amazing that paying a guy that was released and making 700k and had one amazing month 29MM and that's reasonable.

The article is valid. Dolan panicked and had to have his guy when there were better options out there.

How can you say that? Do you think Lin wanted to sign for less?

The contract has the 4th year at a team option. If Lin is a bust we let him go after three. If he is truly the Golden Child then we can Extend.

Are there better options for the money? Dragic got more.

Lin is a cash cow. few players can do that. Can Knicks sell TV rights of its games to Chinese TV? Thats some serious revenue found.

From a pure basketball view I hear what your saying but we all know first and foremost this is a business.

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7/6/2012  11:01 AM
Im sorry but the Knicks offseason is coming around quite well.

Knicks need chemistry, so the new coach, Melo, Lin and Chandler are meeting out west for workouts. Melo is working on improving physically as well. We avoided making Landry Fields (nice role player) into the next Shandon Anderson for a stupid $7mm (who plays same position as recent lotto pick Derozan).
Knicks need leadership and add Kidd to play backup/mentor for a very reasonable $3mm a year.
Knicks avoid losing MORE youth by not trading Shumpert and picks for Nash. Lin+Shump+Kidd much better than Lin+Kidd

Knicks are looking great. We need a healthy Amare/Lin/Chandler/Melo to play together and play well. Now we add another veteran floor general. This is a great move, especially closing games when you can play Lin and Kidd together.

Dolan may be a turd but the article's timing is equally turdlike.

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7/6/2012  11:12 AM
MS wrote:It's amazing that paying a guy that was released and making 700k and had one amazing month 29MM and that's reasonable.

The article is valid. Dolan panicked and had to have his guy when there were better options out there.

LIn wouldn't be a Knick if he the Melo trade didn't happen. Felton would have been the point and the Knicks if they picked up Lin would not have retained him. He had already been waived by 2 teams and there would have been no minutes for him. The Knicks were desperate and Douglas was horrible. Iman couldn't play the point. Lin was a product of the circumstances created by the Melo trade and the Tyson acquisiton. Tyson isn't a Knick if Melo isn't here and Lin doesn't get picked up off waivers or given run if the Melo trade didn't happen. Guy is trying to sell his magazine and being topical. The article is poorly written. Berman could give him some tips.
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7/6/2012  11:28 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Is this article from espn? Sports center they lead off the show saying lin is leaving broadway than brought in andade who said he expects lin to resign. Sensationalism at its finest

lol...I saw that this morning...those guys on First Take (no skip bayless this wk)were talking to Larry Brown who said Lin is nothing more then a back up. They pretty much agreed with him except for one person who stress that Lin was essentially coming off a rookie like campaign and had much more room to grow.

The other 2 said Lin was pretty much at his ceiling and use the Miami game to justify it. Whats funny is how ppl will always take the one negative despite the many positives and let that dictate the persons worth..

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7/6/2012  5:53 PM
Newsflash, it has been said before, there is no way Lin signs with the KNicks without checking the market. Hes smart and no way his agents/advisors would have allowed it. This article is BS based on a false presumption.
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