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Nalod
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6/5/2012  11:28 AM

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/06/05/it-starts-at-the-top/
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6/5/2012  1:29 PM
Dolan certainly isn't the only clueless or nutty owner and many of those guys win despite those flaws. Dolan's big issue isn't his strange behavior when it comes to the media, but rather his poor ability to judge the people he puts in charge and his trust of men that themselves have poor judgment.

It bothered me that Isiah, Grunwald and Woody are all best friends and ended up being able to be involved in the decision making for this team. No sense pretending anymore that Isiah is still having input. It seems like Dolan only went with Walsh to appease Stern but as soon as he could he started to push Walsh out. Now I fear we're back in the same mess that Dolan has had us in for years. I hope i'm wrong. I hope that the team wins in spite of Dolan's poor leadership.

The only positive I can give Dolan is that he will spend to try and put a winning team on the court. Of course that spending is often wasted on poorly constructed teams, but he does try. I just wish he would've allowed Walsh to do what he planned to do rather than interfere and redirect the team towards what Isiah thought was good.

That said, there's still a chance that this could actually work. Not because Dolan had a great master plan, but with just a little good fortune this roster could actually be built up if the arbitration ruling goes in favor of Lin and Novak. All of a sudden things look a lot better in terms of Grunwald having some options to build up the roster. Unfortunately things could just as easily go the other way. Just watching OKC and how they built that team and how it's doing makes me wish for that kind of smart approach here, but I know it will never happen. We came close to being able to do something like that, but...

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6/5/2012  1:41 PM
nixluva wrote:Dolan certainly isn't the only clueless or nutty owner and many of those guys win despite those flaws. Dolan's big issue isn't his strange behavior when it comes to the media, but rather his poor ability to judge the people he puts in charge and his trust of men that themselves have poor judgment.

It bothered me that Isiah, Grunwald and Woody are all best friends and ended up being able to be involved in the decision making for this team. No sense pretending anymore that Isiah is still having input. It seems like Dolan only went with Walsh to appease Stern but as soon as he could he started to push Walsh out. Now I fear we're back in the same mess that Dolan has had us in for years. I hope i'm wrong. I hope that the team wins in spite of Dolan's poor leadership.

The only positive I can give Dolan is that he will spend to try and put a winning team on the court. Of course that spending is often wasted on poorly constructed teams, but he does try. I just wish he would've allowed Walsh to do what he planned to do rather than interfere and redirect the team towards what Isiah thought was good.

That said, there's still a chance that this could actually work. Not because Dolan had a great master plan, but with just a little good fortune this roster could actually be built up if the arbitration ruling goes in favor of Lin and Novak. All of a sudden things look a lot better in terms of Grunwald having some options to build up the roster. Unfortunately things could just as easily go the other way. Just watching OKC and how they built that team and how it's doing makes me wish for that kind of smart approach here, but I know it will never happen. We came close to being able to do something like that, but...

It would be nice, but that was a "Dead franchise" with the pending move and taking helped facilitate the death.

Could they have rebooted if they tried to stay competitive and hope a new stadium is built?

Knick can't rebuild. Last time we even tried to "Tread Water" while collecting assets and letting contracts expire was the year Chaney was fired and Isiah came in mid season. Who does that? Then we reboot with Marbury and Eddy as the cornerstones.

The garden was booing the team. That affects ticket sales. ANd that affects business.

YOu want to really build it, then burn it the phuch down first or have a plan and stick to it.

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6/5/2012  4:30 PM
There's something to be said for TANKING in a legit manner. When a run is over no one will fault a team for cleaning house and starting over. The Knicks actually did try to work the draft and at the point were we had our young guys + a Star in STAT. That really was the team rebuilding as much as they could considering where they drafted. The Melo situation was a turning point in that original plan. Tho we've gone over this over and over, Dolan's impatience was on full display. It's possible that this team didn't have to take the Heat approach and gut the roster of any real depth, but Dolan made that choice and now we have to hope and pray on an arbitrator to give us the room to add talent or else where stuck with lesser players like the Heat.
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6/5/2012  9:18 PM
That's why I believe the Knicks won't win anytime soon cause this *** clown makes knee jerking decisions that winds up blowing up in our face. And frankly I'm tired of it. I thought the Melo trade was a PR move. More about selling tickets than winning basketball games. The trade reminded me of the Hershel Walker trade that sent the Vikings downwards and turned the Cowboys into a dynasty of the 90's. God I just wish Dolan would just let the people that KNOW how to build a franchise do there job and stop meddling. I'm happy for Woody but I still fill he's a "we gonna do what makes Melo happy" coach.
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6/11/2012  8:34 AM
Yes, of course. Talk to the scum NYC media and everything will be fine.

What a pile of pompous, self-serving tripe. That's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I hope the Dolie never talks to any of them.

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6/11/2012  9:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/11/2012  9:28 AM
Let's face it. Dolan is just like any businessman who likes money so much he thinks he can buy anything. BUT! He is not like other businessmen who are smart. After all, he didn't made his first million. He inherited it.
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6/11/2012  9:54 AM
OKC also had the luxury of sucking for a few years and getting three straight years of top 5 lottery picks.

But they also need to thank the Blazers.

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6/11/2012  10:24 AM
knickscity wrote:OKC also had the luxury of sucking for a few years and getting three straight years of top 5 lottery picks.

But they also need to thank the Blazers.

Luck is a funny thing.

JOrdan went 3rd in the draft behine Sam Bowie and Hakeem.

JOrdan without PJax and Krause as GM to get him a wingman (Pippen)perhaps does not go down as the greatest.

But Luck of the ping pong balls does matter as does the health of the pick. Portland is snake bitten with bigs. Larue Martin was the overall no. 1 pick in 1970 for portland. Bill Walton did yield a championship but his career was really curtailed by injuries. Without Injury Walton would be in the "who was better?" arguement with Wilt, Russ and Kareem. He was that good. Sam Bowie was taken becuase they already had Clyde Drexler. It was a solid decision. They should have taken Hakeem of course but he was quite raw out of college and his upside was debatable at that moment.

Jordan was great and no. 3 pick but a lot had to happen for him to be in a position to elevate from run of the mill HOF to the icon he is.

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6/11/2012  12:42 PM
Nalod wrote:
knickscity wrote:OKC also had the luxury of sucking for a few years and getting three straight years of top 5 lottery picks.

But they also need to thank the Blazers.

Luck is a funny thing.

JOrdan went 3rd in the draft behine Sam Bowie and Hakeem.

JOrdan without PJax and Krause as GM to get him a wingman (Pippen)perhaps does not go down as the greatest.

But Luck of the ping pong balls does matter as does the health of the pick. Portland is snake bitten with bigs. Larue Martin was the overall no. 1 pick in 1970 for portland. Bill Walton did yield a championship but his career was really curtailed by injuries. Without Injury Walton would be in the "who was better?" arguement with Wilt, Russ and Kareem. He was that good. Sam Bowie was taken becuase they already had Clyde Drexler. It was a solid decision. They should have taken Hakeem of course but he was quite raw out of college and his upside was debatable at that moment.

Jordan was great and no. 3 pick but a lot had to happen for him to be in a position to elevate from run of the mill HOF to the icon he is.

And it's funny you mention Krause as part of MJ's Luck, because it's a documented fact that MJ wanted him gone. Another telling indicator of the icon's future business management sense.

Off topic, but do you think they'll change the logo when Jerry West dies? If Nike happens to get bought out by Stern, I mean.

This is not my writing but its something I bring up often.....

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